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Raging Bull (Making the Weight) #170819
02/11/02 12:33 AM
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Raging Bull traces Jake La Mottas physical decline from trim, muscled fighting machine to the bloated man of later years.For De Niro, the idea of wearing padding - a "fat suit" - while portraying those later years was not an option. In mind and body, he was determined to be as much like the ex-champ as possible. "I just cant fake acting." he said. "I know movies are an illusion, and maybe the first rule is to fake it, but not for me. Im too curious. I want to deal with all the facts of the character, thin or fat."

So De Niro had to create three different bodies for himself in just six months; the taut fighter; the transitional, slightly out of the shape champ and, finally, the heavy, middle-aged night club entertainer. The shooting schedule was arrange to let De Niro add the weight. The fight sequence would be shot first, for five weeks. The dramatic/transitional scenes require anothe ten weeks of shooting. Then the production was slated to close for two months so that De Niro could pile on the pounds. Finally, twp and a half weeks were allotted for the scenes involving the grossly overweight La Motta.

To prepare for the in-the-ring sequences, De Niro underwent a gruelling to make his body look and perform like a champion prizefighter. For a year before the camera started rolling, he trained with La Motta at Gramercy Gym on East 14th street in Manhattan, sparring over 1,000 rounds with the real life Bronx Bull. Said La Motta: "Bobby is a Main Event fighter. Im not kidding. He is 35 but he fight and moves like a 19-year old. Anytime he like to quit acting, I could easily make him into a champion. Hes that good."

The start of the ten week dramatic/transitional scenes shoot also marked the start of more chameleon-like changes for De Niro. Throughout the ten-week span, the actor wolfed down cheesecake and chocolate shakes, also he would be ready for the last of the transitional sequences to be filmed - the sequnce showing La Motta slightly out of the shape after he retired.

Next came two-month hiatus. De Niro headed for Europe...and food, food, food. "Its very hard." said De Niro about the period. "You have to eat three times a day. You have to get up in the moring just to eat. Eat that breakfast, eat that pancake, eat dinner, even if youre not hungry. Its murder."

When De Niro returned to the set in December of 1979, he had gained a staggering 60 pounds. Cathy Moriarty was astonished when she saw him; "He knocked at my door and this whole different man came in...I think it is just incredible that, simply healthwise, anyone would put himself through that...I was really concerned about him."

Martin Scorsese was equally stunned by De Niros appearance and by the strain the extra pounds put on the actor. To help conserve his stars flagging strenght, he reduced the planned two and a half weeks of final shooting to ten days. "Bobbys weight was so extreme," Scorsese explained, "that his breathing was like mine when I have an asthma attack. With the bulk he put on there was no more doing 40 takes. There were three or four takes. The body dictated things. He just became that person..."

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My Source is the 8page booklet in the DVD. Just want to share it with you guys. . . . .

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Re: Raging Bull (Making the Weight) #170820
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His total commitment to the part is one of the reasons that DeNiro's performance in "Raging Bull" is the best of his career, as intense as Brando's in "Streetcar." The other reason is that he is a great, great actor when he cares about a film, as he did for "Bull." He also gained plenty of weight to play Capone in "Untouchables," wore silk underwear from Sulka, as did Capone, and had his hair plucked out to simulate Capone's hair loss, rather than wear partial wigs. After "Raging Bull," I was all leaped up to see DeNiro as Capone in "Untouchables." Went to the theater on opening day. Was disappointed that he didn't get more on-screen time. But Sean Connery more than made up for that.


Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu,
E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu...
E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu
Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
Re: Raging Bull (Making the Weight) #170821
02/11/02 03:41 AM
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i agree with you Turnbull, he did put some weight in The Untouchables as Al Capone. And he was also paid $2,000,000 in that ten minute appearance. . .

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"I want him dead! I want his family dead! I want his house burnt to the ground! I want to piss on his ashes!"- Robert De Niro (The Untouchables)


Life Goes On

"What're You Gonna Do Now, Tough Guy?"
The Notorious Phrase that Would'nt Go Away.
Re: Raging Bull (Making the Weight) #170822
02/12/02 02:58 PM
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You never knocked me down, Ray. ( I saw an interview with La Motta on BBC Sport UK recently.He never actually said that to Sugar Ray but it's a great line nevertheless. Sugar Ray Robinson was the greatest pound for pound fighter of all time, according to Jake. Where do people stand on that ?

Quote:
Originally posted by goodfellaoggie:
Raging Bull traces Jake La Mottas physical decline from trim, muscled fighting machine to the bloated man of later years.For De Niro, the idea of wearing padding - a "fat suit" - while portraying those later years was not an option. In mind and body, he was determined to be as much like the ex-champ as possible. "I just cant fake acting." he said. "I know movies are an illusion, and maybe the first rule is to fake it, but not for me. Im too curious. I want to deal with all the facts of the character, thin or fat."

So De Niro had to create three different bodies for himself in just six months; the taut fighter; the transitional, slightly out of the shape champ and, finally, the heavy, middle-aged night club entertainer. The shooting schedule was arrange to let De Niro add the weight. The fight sequence would be shot first, for five weeks. The dramatic/transitional scenes require anothe ten weeks of shooting. Then the production was slated to close for two months so that De Niro could pile on the pounds. Finally, twp and a half weeks were allotted for the scenes involving the grossly overweight La Motta.

To prepare for the in-the-ring sequences, De Niro underwent a gruelling to make his body look and perform like a champion prizefighter. For a year before the camera started rolling, he trained with La Motta at Gramercy Gym on East 14th street in Manhattan, sparring over 1,000 rounds with the real life Bronx Bull. Said La Motta: "Bobby is a Main Event fighter. Im not kidding. He is 35 but he fight and moves like a 19-year old. Anytime he like to quit acting, I could easily make him into a champion. Hes that good."

The start of the ten week dramatic/transitional scenes shoot also marked the start of more chameleon-like changes for De Niro. Throughout the ten-week span, the actor wolfed down cheesecake and chocolate shakes, also he would be ready for the last of the transitional sequences to be filmed - the sequnce showing La Motta slightly out of the shape after he retired.

Next came two-month hiatus. De Niro headed for Europe...and food, food, food. "Its very hard." said De Niro about the period. "You have to eat three times a day. You have to get up in the moring just to eat. Eat that breakfast, eat that pancake, eat dinner, even if youre not hungry. Its murder."

When De Niro returned to the set in December of 1979, he had gained a staggering 60 pounds. Cathy Moriarty was astonished when she saw him; "He knocked at my door and this whole different man came in...I think it is just incredible that, simply healthwise, anyone would put himself through that...I was really concerned about him."

Martin Scorsese was equally stunned by De Niros appearance and by the strain the extra pounds put on the actor. To help conserve his stars flagging strenght, he reduced the planned two and a half weeks of final shooting to ten days. "Bobbys weight was so extreme," Scorsese explained, "that his breathing was like mine when I have an asthma attack. With the bulk he put on there was no more doing 40 takes. There were three or four takes. The body dictated things. He just became that person..."

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My Source is the 8page booklet in the DVD. Just want to share it with you guys. . . . .

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[b]"Ive done a lot of bad things Joey,. Maybe its coming back to me."- Jake La Motta
[/b]


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Re: Raging Bull (Making the Weight) #170823
02/12/02 05:37 PM
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Is raging bull totaly a black and white movie?


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Re: Raging Bull (Making the Weight) #170824
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Yes, I believe Raging Bull is a totally B&W movie.
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Re: Raging Bull (Making the Weight) #170825
02/12/02 06:25 PM
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I think the home movies are in color. I could be wrong though. It's been a while since I've seen the film.


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Re: Raging Bull (Making the Weight) #170826
02/13/02 12:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by DonPalentino:
Is raging bull totaly a black and white movie?
its in black and white Don Palentino. . .

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Re: Raging Bull (Making the Weight) #170827
02/13/02 12:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by DonThomas:
I think the home movies are in color. I could be wrong though. It's been a while since I've seen the film.
The home movies are in color.

Re: Raging Bull (Making the Weight) #170828
02/13/02 11:03 AM
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One of the contemporary reviews of "Raging Bull" began this way: "In 'Raging Bull,' Robert DeNiro gives the performance of his career playing a man with the soul of a cigarette butt."


Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu,
E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu...
E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu
Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
Re: Raging Bull (Making the Weight) #170829
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looks like Robert De Niro, Joe Pesci and Frank Vincent are good combination for mobster movies, coz in Goodfellas and Casino the three of them are also present . . .

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"What're You Gonna Do Now, Tough Guy?"
The Notorious Phrase that Would'nt Go Away.
Re: Raging Bull (Making the Weight) #170830
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I read somewhere that Pesci used to play guitar in a '60's Twist band, Joey Dee and the Starlighters, released a solo album, and later did a standup comedy act in nightclubs with Vincent as the straight-man. Pesci was working as a maitre d' when Scorsese found him for "Bull."


Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu,
E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu...
E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu
Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
Re: Raging Bull (Making the Weight) #170831
02/14/02 01:10 AM
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so frank vincent and joe pesci are are working together from way back, nice info turnbull. . .i thought robert de niro handpicked pesci for the movie. . .

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I command this family right or wrong . . .it was not what I wanted!


Life Goes On

"What're You Gonna Do Now, Tough Guy?"
The Notorious Phrase that Would'nt Go Away.

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