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Italian-American slang #170590
01/23/02 02:46 PM
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Hey everyone!
I have some language-problems.
In The Sopranos as well as the Godfather they use a word that sounds like "Ougats" and probably means "nothing". In the Sopranos they often also use a word for black people, that sounds like "Moolinyaads" or "Moolinyans". I've heard that "Moolie" (as they sometimes say) comes from the italian word for eggplant, witch is Melanzana.
I know that Italian-Americans have a very special italian nowadays, saying for example Finoch, instead of finocchio.
So can any of you Italian-Americans here explain the words Moolinyans and Ougats?


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Re: Italian-American slang #170591
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Quote:
Originally posted by Don Larzono:
...In The Sopranos as well as the Godfather they use a word that sounds like "Ougats" and probably means "nothing"...?


It's a profanity, somewhere along the lines of "getting f_ _ _ ed", and it does represent 'nothing'.

Apple


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Re: Italian-American slang #170592
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Quote:
Originally posted by AppleOnYa:


It's a profanity, somewhere along the lines of "getting f_ _ _ ed", and it does represent 'nothing'.

Apple


OK, but is the word Ougats? If so, where does it come from, what Italian word?


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Re: Italian-American slang #170593
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No, it's not "ougats". However, I haven't the slightest idea of the correct Italian spelling.
A


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Re: Italian-American slang #170594
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Stugots means balls. Mulignan is the spelling HBO provides...

For more, check out the Sopranos Mob Speak page, or the XXX Italian Dictionary

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Re: Italian-American slang #170595
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What is it Roberto says when he thrusts Vito's money back in his hand? That sounds like 'sugots' or whatever...



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Re: Italian-American slang #170596
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i thought it was mouligon, and was a term for an african american...


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Re: Italian-American slang #170597
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on bronx tale movie, when the kids are talkin about the girls, mario says if she goes down on the old brajone, or something like that, i believe it means ur dick, excuse my language i dont know how to put it, but i was wondering what the proper word is, the way u spell it or if i am wrong? anyone know about this? i never heard it before..grazie


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Re: Italian-American slang #170598
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"Ugaz" generally means "f--k you." Sometimes pronounced as "stugaz" (which is what Sr. Roberto, a Calabreze, told young Vito, and is the name of Tony Soprano's boat). Often followed by "a tan cul," meaning "up your a--." Often mispronounced as "ba fun gool." "Mulinian" means eggplant (also "melanzan" = eggplant), and is a derogatory term for African American.


Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu,
E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu...
E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu
Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
Re: Italian-American slang #170599
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Quote:
Originally posted by Turnbull:
Often followed by "a tan cul," meaning "up your a--." Often mispronounced as "ba fun gool."


As far as I know it's "vaffancul," meaning "go to your a**hole," or more simply put, "go f*ck yourself."

But I'm not Italian so what do I know?

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"Stugotts" (also the name of Tony Soprano's boat) is translated as "Testicles"; "Bafangool", as was pointed out previously, is "Vafanculo", which literally means that one is talking out of their ass, but has taken on a meaning as telling someone to go screw themselves; "Moolignan" (pronounced "mool-in-yan") is literally an "eggplant", and because of the color of that vegetable has been used as a slang and derogatory term for a black skinned person.


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Quote:
Originally posted by corleone:
on bronx tale movie, when the kids are talkin about the girls, mario says if she goes down on the old brajone


Brajole is a type of meat, and in this incident it was a term used to reference the male-member.


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Re: Italian-American slang #170602
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Quote:
Originally posted by corleone:
on bronx tale movie, when the kids are talkin about the girls, mario says if she goes down on the old brajone, or something like that, i believe it means ur dick, excuse my language i dont know how to put it, but i was wondering what the proper word is, the way u spell it or if i am wrong? anyone know about this? i never heard it before..grazie


"Braciole" is an Italian beef. It doesn't mean "dick", but that's obviously what he was referring to, and he used the word as a sort of euphemism.

Ciao

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Braciole is thinly cut, or even pounded flat flank steak, covered with spices and seasonings (sometimes raisins) and rolled like a pinwheel. Brown it a little in a frying pan and cook it in your sauce. It's terrific.


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Re: Italian-American slang #170604
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Braciole is thinly cut, or even pounded flat flank steak, covered with spices and seasonings (sometimes raisins) and rolled like a pinwheel. Brown it a little in a frying pan and cook it in your sauce. It's terrific.


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Re: Italian-American slang #170605
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OK- thanks! All of you!

I found where the expression Stugots/Oogats comes from: The Italian words Stu Cazzo and u'cazzu, both meaning testicals, used as an expression for "nothing".

I also found another word often used in The Sopranos, Oobatz, witch means "crazy", it comes from the Italian u'pazzu.

source: HBO


[ January 25, 2002: Message edited by: Don Larzono ]

[ January 25, 2002: Message edited by: Don Larzono ]


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Re: Italian-American slang #170606
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pazzo=crazy


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