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Re: Love of Family #153510
04/06/06 08:00 PM
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Right here, but I'd rather be ...
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Quote:
Originally posted by The Dr. who fixed Lucy:
[quote]Capo
[b]So then it would all depend on the situation. If the baby is born deformed, then it was wrong. If not, then it wasn't?

Deformation doesn't necessarily mean "wrong", does it?
Ask Glenn Hoddle! [/b][/quote]Ask Helen Keller.


*waits for public unrest*


"Somebody told me when the bomb hits, everybody in a two mile radius will be instantly sublimated, but if you lay face down on the ground for some time, avoiding the residual ripples of heat, you might survive, permanently fucked up and twisted like you're always underwater refracted. But if you do go gas, there's nothing you can do if the air that was once you is mingled and mashed with the kicked up molecules of the enemy's former body. Big-kid-tested, motherf--ker approved."
Re: Love of Family #153511
04/06/06 11:06 PM
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Queens, New York City/Mulberry...
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In my personal point of view that incest is an infamia, and the Holy Church condemms it... But we are human flesh, we get corrupted. Right? It is amazing how many times I've been so close to have something with some cousin of mine that lives aroun Boston, but every time I've said "Fortunato, get a hold of yourself". But even Don Carlo Gambino married a cous, so why not? Anyhow, I pass


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Re: Love of Family #153512
04/07/06 08:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Enzo Scifo:
[quote]Originally posted by Capo de La Cosa Nostra:
[b] [quote]Originally posted by Enzo Scifo:
[b] Like: Because of biological "fact" that states incest is "weird" or "wrong".

Why isn't it a fact?
Because it is an opinion. [/b][/quote]When two relatives (eg brother and sister) have a child, chances are higher of having a not normally functioning/deformed child. Not very fun for the child, and for the parents. When they do want to have a child, it can be seen as "weird" and not very thoughtful, IMO. Whether it's "wrong" is another discussion.

I presume that the fact we think incest is weird comes from the human biology. Clearly we just know, from birth on, that incest has it's risks. What you seemed to point out as a cultural thing, is just our biologic alarm that is cultivated and generally accepted. [/b][/quote]Does general acceptance pertain to fact, then?


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Re: Love of Family #153513
04/07/06 06:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Enzo Scifo:
When two relatives (eg brother and sister) have a child, chances are higher of having a not normally functioning/deformed child.
This is fact.

Quote:
Originally posted by Enzo Scifo:
I presume that we think incest is weird because of the human biology. Clearly we just know, from birth on, that incest has it's risks.
This is fact.

Quote:
Originally posted by Enzo Scifo:
What you seemed to point out as a cultural thing, is just our biologic alarm that is cultivated and generally accepted.
It's a fact that the presence of our biological alarm is generally accepted and cultivated into our modern thinking that incest is 'not done'.


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Re: Love of Family #153514
04/07/06 06:40 PM
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Three facts, but the statement "incest is wrong" is still opinion.


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Re: Love of Family #153515
04/07/06 06:50 PM
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I know. That's why I said this, two days ago
Quote:
Originally posted by Enzo Scifo:
Whether it's "wrong" is another discussion.


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See, we can act as smart as we want, but at the end of the day, we still follow a guy who fucks himself with kebab skewers.
Re: Love of Family #153516
04/07/06 07:15 PM
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If it's wrong, why does it feel so right? Many a time in my younger years I felt the urge to keep my distance between cousins a little shorter than usual. That's why my cousins usually had such amazing grins in our family portraits. But I think if buzzin' cousins want to take their relationship to the next level, why stop them? I was always told to play nice with cousins, so I did. What's nicer than a few nights of passion behind the old oak tree.

Re: Love of Family #153517
04/07/06 08:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by MobbingForMoney:
If it's wrong, why does it feel so right? Many a time in my younger years I felt the urge to keep my distance between cousins a little shorter than usual. That's why my cousins usually had such amazing grins in our family portraits. But I think if buzzin' cousins want to take their relationship to the next level, why stop them? I was always told to play nice with cousins, so I did. What's nicer than a few nights of passion behind the old oak tree.


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Re: Love of Family #153518
04/08/06 04:47 AM
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Biological Alarm? If that existed, people would've stopped eating fast food. People do lots of things that are bad for their health because it simply feels good. Biological alarm cease to go off when there is an animal attraction between two people, now it really doesn't matter what gender or relationship they might've had.

What turns most people off about their siblings is the fact that they've lived together since childhood and suddenly feeling different about someone rarely happens compared to feeling love and attraction at the first sight.

In theory if people bred with their siblings, carriers of defected genes would've ceased to exist, due to the fact that their next generation would've not survived while those with perfect gene pattern would've produced generations of more consistent and stronger genes. However many gene patterns would've ceased to exist as the result.

With the existing taboos, carriers of defected genes spread up more and more and chance of the same defected genes paring up increases in every generation more than before. Here, pre-marital tests on thalassemia and hemophilia are mandatory. I personally know two people that were engaged but didn't get married after getting their test result, and they were not even remotely related.


"Fire cannot kill a dragon." -Daenerys Targaryen, Game of Thrones
Re: Love of Family #153519
04/08/06 05:47 AM
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Capo, you are asking a grand philosophical question which cannot be answered. Is murder wrong? Is anything at all wrong absolutely? Should anyone be punished for acts that he/she does not believe to be wrong?

Re: Love of Family #153520
04/10/06 04:12 AM
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Quote:
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Should anyone be punished for acts that he/she does not believe to be wrong?
svsg, I understand what you mean, but what about Al Quaida members, for instance? They certainly think 11/9 was right. Shouldn't they be punished then?


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Re: Love of Family #153521
04/10/06 07:25 AM
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If anything, they're being punished by a system they're punishing. Antagonistic values going head-on.


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