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LOS ANGELES - Immigration rights advocates more than 500,000 strong marched in downtown Los Angeles, demanding that Congress abandon attempts to make illegal immigration a felony and to build more walls along the border.

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:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: .............. U want to come into this great country fine, but do it the legal way.

DS

Just a small town girl, living in a lonely world. She took the midnight train going any way. Just a city boy, born and raised in South Detroit. He took the midnight train going any wayyyy.

I agree Don Smitty. There are too many illegal immigrants living off of our country. It's bull. These people protest for what? These people are not citizens of this country and they expect freedom and respect whenever these people are invading our country and making fools of us. If you want freedom and happines, you have to do it the same way our ancestors did it. With today's society and science, they could have it alot easier than what our ancestors had to go through. I think it's all bull.

Gee...It sure is nice to be able to agree with the conservatives once in a while.

Now, whenever I am accused of being a radical bleeding heart left-wing liberal long-hair welfare-supporting, homosexual rights-advocating, abortion-loving, Bill of Rights-defending, Bush & Cheney-hating, Jane Fonda-embracing, death penalty-disliking, dope smoking, draft dodging, Viet Nam-Iraq-comparing pacifist commie pinko feak....

I can always point to this issue. :p


(Apologies to Spike Lee)

Not all my ancestors came here legally.

Immigration Man: What's your name son?
Boy: (Silence)
IM: Come on, tell me your name.
Other IM: (Reads Card pinned to the boys shirt) Sacomanetski Agraphorialmengiomina from Cazmekastan
IM: S.....C

The only problem I'm seeing is with the migrant workers, since the agricultural markets oftentimes depend on their labor.

However, I do think this is a very, very good move in the right direction. I have never agreed with the fact that illegal immigrants essentially have the same rights and protections under the constitution as legal citizens, but do not have to pay taxes or perform any other civic duties.

I find it pretty funny though that immigration rights activists would be protesting in favor of a form of immigration that is by definition "illegal." :p

Then again, this legislation, to be effective, is going to need to begin at the borders - perhaps we finally will get some sincere efforts at securing our nations injuctions with Mexico and Canada?

They had a councilman or something on CNN last night. I actually agree with his reasoning for being against the law:

"This law will make 12 million ILLEGAL immigrants instant criminals" :rolleyes:

By definition though, aren't they illegal, DMC? :p

by definition after the quote the :rolleyes:

My grandparents were legal immigrants. Immigrants built this country, and are still building it. If we were to cut off immigration and deport all the illegals, no one would cook our food, mow our lawns, rake our leaves, do the construction dog-work, babysit our kids. Everything would cost more--if it got done at all.

BUT:

Illegal immigration is bad--period--and needs to be controlled:

First, illegals are horribly exploited by "labor contractors" who are the modern-day equivalent of slavemasters. Often their lives are in peril coming here, and eventually in their workplaces and living places, which seldom if ever comply with rudimentary health and safety laws.
Second, with terrorism a constant threat, keeping our borders porous and looking the other way at illegal immigration because it's cheap labor constitutes an invitation to terrorists to enter along with the illegals.
Third, if we want these people to be good citizens, we can't start by telling them it's ok to break our laws--and reward them for doing so.

I have a second home in Arizona. That's where illegal immigration is a pandemic. Last year, AZ caught 1.5 million illegals--and that's only the ones who got caught. Imagine how many more got through? Some of our border towns are like war zones. The burden on law enforcement, taxpayers and legal citizens is crushing. We need a rational immigration policy now.

hi, Turnbull. i'm back, after a 3-year absence or so.

if you remember, i said before that i was migrating to the US soon, and wanted to live in New York. you even directed me to a website. thanks for the tip!

well, i am now living in Arizona (where you have a second home!). my sister lives here, and this is where my husband and i stayed ever since we arrived. i arrived in the States last May 2005 as a LEGAL IMMIGRANT, folks!

my husband and i are both working in advertising agencies, the same line of work we were into, when still living in the Philippines. that is the advantage of having valid papers -- you can work wherever you want. almost.

i have mixed feelings about this "illegal immigration" thing -- basically, i feel that i exerted a lot of effort to make everything legal, and everybody should do things that way, too, if they want to move to a country and stay there.

on the other hand, i also understand the plight of these illegal immigrants, wanting to improve their struggling lives coming from a third-world country.

it does have a gray area, but yes, in the end, we can have black-and-white views on this.

As always, very well said TB.