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Re: Film Noir : Top 10
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What, exactly, defines the distinction between original, or pure, and "neo"? What date does old become new? Where's the line? In years to come, will Chinatown be considered among the original crop?
Recommendation: Jacques Tourneur's Out of the Past (aka Build My Gallows High). That, and Double Indemnity get my vote.
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Re: Film Noir : Top 10
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Originally posted by Capo de La Cosa Nostra: What, exactly, defines the distinction between original, or pure, and "neo"? What date does old become new? Where's the line? In years to come, will Chinatown be considered among the original crop?
Basically, the distinction is made to diffrentiate the "Godlen Age" and the modern era of film noir....considering the "Golden Age" ended between 1958-1959, it is common to list the post-60's films as neo noir. Theres no bible here. But if you dont set a paricular time difference (pre-post 60's) the sub genre will blend classic 40's with modern stuff, even tech-noir films like Blade Runner....the definition of Film Noir will lose its classic elements. (and Blade Runner is a great film, but should we mix it and others with the classic 40/50 ones? - )
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Re: Film Noir : Top 10
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02/18/06 02:26 AM
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The Coen Brothers Blood Simple, and Body Heat belong on any "neo" list, IMO.
And The Man Who Wasn't There, also by the Coens, meant, I think, as a somewhat of a comedic send-up of the genre, right down to the use of the narrative form and the B & W cinematography, belongs on that list as well, I think.
Of the noires themselves, I think Double Indemnity is the best, and it is my favorite.
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Re: Film Noir : Top 10
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02/18/06 03:20 PM
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Film Noir: 1. The Maltese Falcon (1941/Huston) 2. Out of the Past (1947/Tourner) 3. Laura (1944/Preminger) 4. Where the Sidewalk Ends (1951/Preminger) 5. Nightmare Alley (1947/Goulding) 6. Touch of Evil (1958/Welles) 7. The Asphault Jungle (1950/Huston) 8. Murder, My Sweet (1944/Dymytryk) 9. White Heat (1949/Walsh) 10. Gun Crazy (1950/Kings. Bros) 11. The Big Sleep (1946/Hawks) 12. Somewhere in the Night (1947/Mankewickz) 13. Kill of Death (1947/Hathaway) 14. Panic on the Streets (1950/Kazan) 15. Sunset Blvd. (1950/Wilder) * 16. Vertigo (1958/Hitchcock)* 17. Dial "M" for Murder (1953/Hitchcock)* 19. 'The Set-Up' (1950/Wise)
Those listed with * are questinable picks. I for one look at "Vertigo" and am reminded of many elements of noir. Same for "Dial 'M' for Murder".
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