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Good or bad actor?
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01/31/06 08:36 AM
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Lavinia from Italy
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Ok, after reading what's been said about Tom Cruise, I'd like to know what everyone thinks about some stars I still cannot decide if they are good or bad. Tom Cruise! . What do you exactly dislike? I think he's a quite decent actor and very versatile to boot. Nicolas Cage, is he a good actor? I read awful criticism on him. I honestly don't know why. He seems to be good. He's not Al Pacino or DeNiro, but who is? Brad Pitt. Is this very attractive man a good actor as well? I doubt. Sometimes he seems as expressive as a tuna fish can. But no doubt he's the sexiest tuna fish can I've ever seen... Just kidding. What do you think?
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Re: Good or bad actor?
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01/31/06 09:39 AM
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afsaneh77
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Originally posted by Lavinia from Italy: is it just a skin feeling, one of those otherwise unexplainable sort of things that just happen? It is something along those lines...
"Fire cannot kill a dragon." -Daenerys Targaryen, Game of Thrones
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Re: Good or bad actor?
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01/31/06 12:09 PM
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i agree that cruise was great in magnolia and also in vanilla sky.
cage was, in my opinion, amazing in adaptation.
and i think prad pitt might have been recognized as a better actor had he not taken some of those pretty boy roles in the '90's. but he was pretty good in fight club, se7en, legends of the fall and interview with the vampire.
"strange things happen all the time, and so it goes and so it goes. and the book says, 'we may be through with the past, but the past is not through with us'" - MAGNOLIA
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Re: Good or bad actor?
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01/31/06 03:47 PM
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Luciano Fanucci
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I dont pay attention to how well actors do in movies, I just concentrate on enjoying the movie, no matter what actors star in it.
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Re: Good or bad actor?
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01/31/06 03:49 PM
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Luciano Fanucci
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Originally posted by Capo de La Cosa Nostra: Me too, LF.
Unless it's Angela Lansbury. Lol, im sure we would all agree on that one.
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Re: Good or bad actor?
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01/31/06 06:27 PM
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Don Jasani
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Tom Cruise, Nicholas Cage, Brad Pitt. They're all solid actors and anyone who has seen Top Gun, A Few Good Men, Mission Impossible, Minority Report, The Rock, Face/Off, 8MM, Gone In 60 Secs., Matchstick Men, Sleepers, Snatch, Ocean's 11 and Troy among other movies can attest to that.
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Re: Good or bad actor?
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02/01/06 01:39 PM
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It's helpful to keep in mind that an actor's personality and image contribute to his/her audience appeal and ultimately to the value they bring to a film. Some directors have made a useful distinction between an "actor" and a "movie star." For example, Olivier was regarded as a great actor because of his native talent and the versatility of the roles he played. But Gable was a real "movie star"--it was often said of him that he basically played himself in every role, but people loved him and accepted "Gable" as the character, whether it was Rhett Butler or Fletcher Christian. IMO, Tom Cruise is basically a "movie star," though I thought he gave a superior acting performance in "Collateral," an out-of-character role for him. Anthony Hopkins is an "actor."
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Re: Good or bad actor?
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02/01/06 03:24 PM
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Well Turnbull, it depends. Tom Cruise is a movie star who can act. Colin Farrell is a movie star that can act. Johnny Depp is a movie star that can act. Ben Affleck is a movie star who can't act. I think it depends. People may become famous to the public for stupid reasons. Just look at Paris Hilton. Just curious, what were your thoughts on Collateral?
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Re: Good or bad actor?
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02/01/06 05:00 PM
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Actually, I find Hopkins, especially since Lambs, to be the opposite of your definition of an actor, Turnbull. He's struggled to shed the typecasting ever since; of course, he doesn't help himself by agreeing to do sequels.
Morgan Freeman's the same. His latest film he did play himself, oddly enough: as the narrator in March of the Penguins.
Is Cruise playing himself in Magnolia? Not sure, but he's terrific.
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Re: Good or bad actor?
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02/01/06 05:22 PM
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I feel the same way about each actor; I wouldn't say they're bad actors. I also wouldn't say they're great either. I think they're all good, just not say "the best actors of our time". But they're all very talented men. Although, they all seem to have only a handful of good films, judging by the ones I've seen, and then about twice as many bad ones.
My favorites from Cruise would be either Magnolia or Vanilla Sky.
My favorite from Cage would undoubtably be Adaptation.
My favorite from Pitt would undoubtably be Fight Club.
And, each one has quite a few more films I liked. Their strong material just comes out in random sparses... I would be inclined to say that they are talented actors who just pick the wrong films.
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