Irishman brought this up in another thread.

License it. Tax it. Require that prostitutes undergo a medical exam every month or so. Have the Health Department visit their premises regularly, as they do for restaurants.

But why should it be illegal?

Exactly. Other than the fact that Christians denounce it as immoral, what's the big deal? If people want to pay to have sex and get AIDS, buyer beware? I mean, I can understand to a point, the spread of disease, but what about all of these teenagers who have unprotected sex and get diseases that way? I agree with your "testing" procedure plaw

I agree with you on some aspects, Plaw.

I have a question, however.

How would they manage all of the prostitutes? You'd have a few who would be pirated, like music.

I don't care. Go ahead and get Herpes from some whore who can't work a regular job to feed her damn kids.

Prostitution and marijuana should be legalized and taxed. Don't see why they're not.

I agree. The argument for marijuana is it "leads to harder drugs." So I guess alcohol doesn't? They should just legalize it just to stop those stupid "anti-drug" commericals that I hate so much

It's called Clark County, Nevada, silly.

Although, I agree. If it can go on legal in Nevada, why not the entire country? If someone is so desperate as to buy sex, that's their deal.

Weed is easier to get for teenagers than cigarettes so although I would back its legalization I'm not even sure it's completely necessary.
City Councilors in Toronto have been talking about creating a red light district in the city for about a year or so now. I would support this move as well, but before it can come to fruition we have to deal with the "Not In My Backyard" mentality of many citizens when it comes to strip clubs, massage parlors, porno shops etc.
The fact of the matter though is that prostitution has been legal across North America for quite some time now in the form of escorts.

What would happen to all of the 's?

Any profession which requires licensing has their "pirates".

When the pirates are caught, they are prosecuted.

If someone is foolish enough to patronize an unlicensed prostitute, there isn't much that can be done about it.

Any profession which requires licensing has their "pirtaes".

When the pirates are caught, they are prosecuted.

If someone is foolish enough to patronize an unlicensed prostitute, there isn't much that can be done about it. [/b][/quote]True, it's foolish.

It isn't out of the question. Why pay some licensed chick when you can get nookie over here for cheaper, and the government doesn't benefit?

Ohh boy. The government are turning into Pimps too? That actually sounds pretty bad.

Like a comedian(forget who though) said awhile back "Make prostitution legal and tax it, we'd have the national debt solved in no time."


I find myself agreeing with Plaw(scary thought isn't it? ) on this issue.

I see no reason why it's illegal across the nation, save for a few places in Nevada.

It's illegal?? Damn! Frankie Slick told me it was respectable work when he hired me! Oh, I'm so ashamed...

I agree with Mig though, you guys wanna dump all the pimps out on the street with no job, no place to go? Of all the insensitive, out-of-touch, mean... Why I oughta...

they can make it legal its selling like hotcakes!

GoodFella

In her book, "Brothel - Mustang Ranch and Its Women" (2001), Alexa Albert makes a strong case for legalizing prostitution in the kind of brothel setting that's legal in 10 of Nevada's 13 counties. Albert, who's now a doctor, lived (but didn't work) for time at the Mustang Ranch,doing research while she was a medical student. She claims that, thanks to vigorous regulation by the state and even more vigorous rules of the house, none of the prostitutes or their clients ever got a STD at the Mustang Ranch. But despite her relatively benign description, it's hard to conclude, after reading this book, that prostitution is "victimless"--the girls are the victims in this telling.

I haven't read the book, but I don't see how the girls are "victims".

It's their chosen profession, and I'd venture to say that they earn more money at it than they'd be able to at anything else, or they wouldn't be doing it.

If you want to say that they're victims of our society and economic system that forces someone to be a prostitute to earn a good living, I'll give you that, but.....

Are they any more victims than hotel maids or dishwashers who work for the minimum wage, or NYC taxicab drivers who work 70 hours a week to earn $500?

There has always been an issue with so-called "victim-less" crimes and how they hurt people. Sure, from an individual perspctive it's just one person hurting their own being. But, it's the "culture of poverty" that these crimes can fuel. They can create an area filled with certain dangers, assosiated with drugs and prostitution.

Legalizing it would provide for it to be regulated, leading it to help end the "culture of poverty", but it's such a touchy issue. More later, I'm tired.

The Doc

Here in Melbourne there's a brothel on every corner you turn. Even here in suburbs there are houses everywhere. There's a town called St Kilda that's renowned for its prostitutes. I don't see a problem with it being legal either, there never seems to be much about prostitution in the news and it runs rampant here.

In a small quirk of the law over here, soliciting is the crime i.e if you say to a woman "Have sex with me and I'll give you £50" you have committed the crime. But broadly yes, it should be legalised. It would at the very least give women the protection of employment laws, working practices, conditions etc.

Now it all clicks into place ... I always wondered why the likes of Double J and Don Andrew had such contempt for "liberalism" ... me being an ignorant foreignor, I didn't realize that American liberalism extended to this kind of disgusting justification for prostitution.

Can I first of all explain to them that it is possible to be a liberal and also to condemn prostitution as a practice that dispicably equates the human body with a trade good.

The difference between maids and dishwashers on poor minimum pay, and prostitutes, is that the former do not get fucked - literally at least - for money. They sell their meagre servies, not their arses and pussies. It reeks of ivory tower ignorant middle-classness to naively ask "whats the problem" or "what difference there is" between low paid jobs and being a whore.

Let me ask you this plaw, Irishman... how would you feel if a sister or daugher of yours became a whore? How about if she was a really good piece of ass, earning $1000s per month? Would you be proud of her enterprising spirit, or disgusted and ashamed that your daughter/sister was sleeping with strangers for money?

And plaw's comment about health inspectors - like women are restaurant premesis or medical devices - disgusting, displcable, the ugly rear end of what is mistaken as liberlism. Well I would like to make it clear that whenever I have been "liberal" in the sense of anti-Bush or anti-War, it is steeled with a sense of morality that utterly condemns to use of women as trade goods. "Moral liberalism" or "christian liberalism" if you want to call it that, certainly not the amoral ultra-liberal quagmire that the pro-whore camp occupy on this issue.

Well, I must ask the question again:

What is it about sex that gets everyone in such an uproar?

And, TDWFL, let me ask you this:

What gives you the right to impose your moral standards on another person?

You're entitled to your opinion, sure, but if a woman chooses prostitution as a way to earn a living, that should be her choice. And she should not be considered to be committing a crime because her moral standards may be different from those belonging to the majority of society.

As far as my sister or daughter being a prostitute, I would answer you this way:

No, I would not be proud of her. But so what? What difference should it make if I'm proud of her or not? It's her choice to make, and the level of my "proudness" with respect to how she chooses to earn a living should not be a factor.

And the only reason I would not be proud of her is beacause of the onus that society places on women who become prostitutes.

If society didn't care, as they shouldn't, then there would be nothing whatsoever to be ashamed of.

I wouldn't be particularly proud to tell people that my sister or daughter was a dishwasher or maid, either.

And, BTW Dr., some of the descriptive terminology that you use above to describe various parts of the female anatomy belies your apparent concern for women.

Perhaps I was being disingenuous plaw when I suggested that you would "not be proud" of a sister of daughter who became a whore.

Let me say what I really meant: would you not in fact be absolutely disguested and appalled to learn that a loved one was selling her ... or indeed, his ... body for sex with stranger for money? Treating their own body like a commodity because it is the only way they can make enough money? Would you not offer to give them the money rather than see them so reduced?

I'm shocked that a liberal who would consider himself the polar opposite of an advocate of slavery would ally himself with such an opposite in viewing the human body as property! Now if I am "forcing my morals" upon you in assuming that you are opposed to humans being treated as property, I apologize. But the least you can do is declare that that is your position, that you think of the human body as disposible (in the legal sense) property, capable of being hte subject of a contract of lease.

So what is it to be: you think humans are capable of being property (like slaves), or otherwise (in which case, renounce your endorsement of legalized prostitution).

I have no problem with legalizing prostitution as long as it was done in a controlled envirement with permits inspections minimum age limits health inspections and tests. Controlled legalized prostitution would probably help cut down on drug abuse crimes and the spreading of sexual diseases. It would cut down on younger aged girls who run away and become slaves to pimps.

Streetwalking prostitution should never be legal.


Should someone who is a dishwasher or a maid be ashamed that they work those jobs to put food on their tables or pay for college? I was a dishwasher when I was going to college and I am not ashamed of it. I don't look down on people who are willing to work for a living instead of robbing or living off the government.


DS

TDWFL: The human body absolutely is property. The property, in this case, of the woman. And as a prostitute, the woman's body is still her property. She is not being forced into prostitution as were people forced into slavery. She has the option of leaving the profession whenever she wishes to, and selecting her clientele based on whatever criteria she chooses.

She is no different in principle from, say, a Las Vegas showgirl, who is in effect "selling" her body, albeit in a different way.

Neither, I'm afraid.

To compare a prostitute to a slave is silly, IMO.

Don Smitty: My point exactly.

Someone who is a dishwasher or a maid should not be ashamed of the way they earn their living to put food on their table.

Nor should a prostitute.

I would not be ashamed of a daughter or sister working her way through college as a maid or dishwasher, but I would not be particularly proud of her if that wound up being her chosen profession.

Yes, it's an honest living, and there's nothing to be ashamed of. But on the "proudness" scale, I'd be a lot prouder if she were a doctor or a lawyer or another type of professional.

As I said, the only reason I would have for not being proud of my sister or daughter the prostitute is that she'd be breaking the law.

But if it were legal, and she were working her way through college, I'd have no problem.

If she chose to stay in the profession after graduation, my comments above would apply.

A boy and his date were parked on a back road some distance from town, doing what boys and girls do on back roads some distance from town. Abruptly, the girl stopped the boy dead in his tracks. "I really should have mentioned this earlier, but I'm actually a hooker and I charge $20 for sex." The boy reluctantly paid her, and they did their thing. After the obligatory cigarette, the boy sat in the driver's seat, staring out the window. "Why aren't we going anywhere?" asked the girl. "Well, I should have mentioned this before, but I'm actually a taxi driver, and the fare back to town is $25."


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But.....If the boy hadn't "stopped dead in his tracks" and paid her $20, but simply continued instead, would he have been guilty of rape, considering that she was a prostitute?

And if he was, should his sentence have been the same as the guy in the first scenario?

:p

I never understood how it was illegal to sell what you can give away for free.


And what is prostitution anyway? If a hot 30 year old woman marries an 85 year old billionaire for his money isnt that prostitution?

What about women (and I have heard many say this) who will not put out for a guy if he is a cheapskate on a date, but will if he buys her a big dinner or sometnhing.

An 80 year old man went to Hollywood to pick up a prostitute and get some action. He noticed one hooker in particular and started flirting with her. The prostitute started becoming annoyed and said, "Get lost old man! You're ruining business!"

"Sure would like to get some action tonight," said the old man.

"You've got to be kidding! You're too old! You're all finished."

"What did you say?" asked the old man.

"You heard me - you're all finished."

"Oh," replied the old man, "how much do I owe you?"


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