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Ward Churchill's opinions #101204
03/03/05 01:38 AM
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Does anyone agree with what he's saying? I hope not. Because he's wrong, dead wrong.


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Re: Ward Churchill's opinions #101205
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He's a compete nutcase.


Re: Ward Churchill's opinions #101206
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The man is out of his mind!!!


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Re: Ward Churchill's opinions #101207
03/03/05 08:15 AM
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He has every right to say what he would like.


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Re: Ward Churchill's opinions #101208
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The 1st Amendment does not allow you the freedom of speech if it impedes on other constitutional rights, or laws. His opinion does at least one of the two. He can lose his job for what he said, and, if the defense prosecutes (is that the right term?) him the right way, he could lose his job without it violating his constitutional rights. If the families of 9/11 sue on the pretence that his remarks caused emotional and mental harm and turmoil, that required medical attention, not only could he lose his job, he could be sued, and put in jail. Don Cardi said it best, but I'm too lazy to look up the link in the last thread about Turd Churchill.


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Re: Ward Churchill's opinions #101209
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How can any human being be so cruel and heartless?


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Re: Ward Churchill's opinions #101210
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1.) Does Mr. Churchill have the right to speak his mind? Sure. Get on your soapbox, even if nobody is listening.

2.) Is he subject to repercussions? Absolutely. The school where he taught lost millions in donations after Bill O'Reilly told people on the Factor about what Churchill said. That alone would be enough to warrant a dismissal, since the school thrives on those contributions. Secondly, he teaches at a public university (Univ. Colorado, Boulder) where he is under the gun of taxpayers and state lawmakers.

If his job is terminated because of this, not only is it completely fair and legal, but it would get another spin-doctor out of the classroom from spreading his message, rather than educating on fact.



Re: Ward Churchill's opinions #101211
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Where the hell have you been? BTW Ward Churchills an ass. :p


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Re: Ward Churchill's opinions #101212
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Where the hell have you been? BTW Ward Churchills an ass. :p
School is hard, life is short. I took a temporary retirement because I needed to concentrate on some univ-related stuff.

Yes, Ward Churchill is an asshole. We bash him quite frequently in my Politics and the Media course. Along with Esam Jordan, Dan Rather, and PBS' Frontline.



Re: Ward Churchill's opinions #101213
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Ward Churchill is a


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Re: Ward Churchill's opinions #101214
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He has every right to say what he would like.
I titled this thread "Ward Churchill's opinions" so I didn't have to hear any freedom of speech crap, because this thread isn't about whether or not he has the right to say what he says. But, since Patrick can't say anything negative about this guy because he's also a far-left radical, he just points out he has the freedom of speech to say what he wants.

Patrick, what do you think about the man's opinions? Do you understand? Can you for one answer without turning the question into something else? Do you agree with what he says? Any of it? Some of it? Which parts? Is he an asshole?


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Re: Ward Churchill's opinions #101215
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Quote:
Originally posted by Signore Sole Aumentante:
I titled this thread "Ward Churchill's opinions" so I didn't have to hear any freedom of speech crap, because this thread isn't about whether or not he has the right to say what he says. But, since Patrick can't say anything negative about this guy because he's also a far-left radical, he just points out he has the freedom of speech to say what he wants.

Patrick, what do you think about the man's opinions? Do you understand? Can you for one answer without turning the question into something else? Do you agree with what he says? Any of it? Some of it? Which parts? Is he an asshole?
I already gave my opinion. I said he's an asshole. Do you want me to describe it? This is my only problem with him getting fired: I have yet to read anything that said Churchill taught his class about his article. He called the 9/11 victims 'little Eichmans' in a news article, which I don't if it was or wasn't related to the school. If the guy didn't say this in school, than I don't think he should lose his job. On the other hand, what if he just said it while teaching, but didn't test on it or anything else? What do you mean "Do I agree with what he says?" No, I don't. I certainly hope you aren't saying that you do. That's pretty sick if you ask me, but he is trying to make somewhat of a comparison to the kids who are dying in Iraq I think, right? -Pat


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