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Re: The Smartest?...The Dumbest? [Re: NYMafia] #1088483
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The Mafia in Italy is super powerful simply because they have all the top government positions as well. I firmly believe they make a bust here and there of certain mafiosi just to keep things running corruptly.

Am I right or what?

Re: The Smartest?...The Dumbest? [Re: RushStreet] #1088496
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Originally Posted by RushStreet
The Mafia in Italy is super powerful simply because they have all the top government positions as well. I firmly believe they make a bust here and there of certain mafiosi just to keep things running corruptly.

Am I right or what?



I'd say that partially true and partially false. In Italy more so than the U.S., but even in Italy/Sicily today its becoming a much different ballgame.

Re: The Smartest?...The Dumbest? [Re: NYMafia] #1088515
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The dumbest are probably the ones who keep shamelessly bumping up their threads to keep their name going !!!

Re: The Smartest?...The Dumbest? [Re: NYMafia] #1088734
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Another fellow who I think doesn't get enough credit for brains was Utica, New York's Salvatore Falcone.

He seems to have essentially been the overall "boss" of that section of New York States for many years with little interruption from law enforcement. With the one exception of when he and his brother Joe were arrested during the Prohibition Era, along with 40 or 50 of their men, he remained largely unscathed throughout his life and career.

And he was sharp enough, that by the 1940s he removed himself entirely from NYS, "semi-retiring" down to Miami, Florida where he lived quietly and successfully operated a wholesale/retail food supply firm for the rest of his days, leaving his brother at the helm as the new "capo" of Utica.

It is still believed that Sal remained as the overall leader, receiving his monthly stipend and available for consultation and council as required. He remained in the background and never got his hands dirty in the rackets. Yet, by all accounts he still seemed to live quite nicely so he must have stashed a wheelbarrow of money over the years.

The only ripple came in November, 1957 after the Apalachin Meeting. But even that, ultimately, didn't affect him.

IMO, Salvatore Falcone was a very sharp fellow.

Re: The Smartest?...The Dumbest? [Re: NYMafia] #1089036
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Another sharp guy IMO was Giovanni (John) Tartamella, who served as an important capo, and later, as the consigliere to boss Joe Bonanno. Throughout all his years as a mafioso, Tartamella, as best as can be determined, had no police record to speak of (or a minor one, at best, that was dismissed and buried.) Yet, he operated almost uninterrupted in labor union rackets for over fifty years as one of Bonanno's closest aides and advisors.

That to me, is called success.

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