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Why are the Rizzutos so alligned with black gangs? #1086206
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John Gotti wouldnt have approved of this. He honestly would have thrown up.

Why are the Rizzutos so different?

Re: Why are the Rizzutos so alligned with black gangs? [Re: RushStreet] #1086218
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Cuz its montreal.

And New York families been close with black gangs also.

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It's a different environment. Montreal is a different landscape from NY. You can't compare them.

Re: Why are the Rizzutos so alligned with black gangs? [Re: RushStreet] #1086222
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Yeah New York is a BIG city with the same population as the province of Quebec.
So New York is different.

Re: Why are the Rizzutos so alligned with black gangs? [Re: RushStreet] #1086224
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Totally different operation and city. They got along for years and made a killing.

Re: Why are the Rizzutos so alligned with black gangs? [Re: RushStreet] #1086244
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Guess Italians in Canada are far less likely to be racist compared to Italian Americans in the United States. Maybe its their socialist culture up there. For example there were Italian pall bearers for the black gang banger who got killed up in Montreal. That would NEVER happen in the United States. Can you picture John Gotti having his men carry a gang bangers casket no matter the circumstance? It would never happen, that is a guarantee!!!

Lets be honest and clear here...

Most mob guys in America do not like blacks especially ones in gangs. Gotti was openly against that culture and was proud to be so. Let me tell you its not like he's the only Italian guy either who hates them with a passion.


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Re: Why are the Rizzutos so alligned with black gangs? [Re: RushStreet] #1086245
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What gang banger had Italians as pallbearers?

Re: Why are the Rizzutos so alligned with black gangs? [Re: Mafia101] #1086247
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Originally Posted by Mafia101
What gang banger had Italians as pallbearers?


Look at this, all Italian men carrying a casket. Now you tell me if Gotti would have done that? NO FUCKIN WAY ....

https://gangsterreport.com/rizzuto-...ecent-spate-of-violence-in-montreal-war/

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Re: Why are the Rizzutos so alligned with black gangs? [Re: RushStreet] #1086248
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Lol you mean the funeral workers whose job it is?

Re: Why are the Rizzutos so alligned with black gangs? [Re: RushStreet] #1086250
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Hopefully thats who it is.

Re: Why are the Rizzutos so alligned with black gangs? [Re: RushStreet] #1086251
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Those are just people working at the funeral home.
All this because of this picture ???? LOL

Re: Why are the Rizzutos so alligned with black gangs? [Re: RushStreet] #1086252
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Why hopefully? Maybe the only racist is you Rush.

Re: Why are the Rizzutos so alligned with black gangs? [Re: Mafia101] #1086254
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Originally Posted by Mafia101
Why hopefully? Maybe the only racist is you Rush.


Against that culture of ghetto goons? Yes absolutely.

Now on the other hand, go ask my best friend in college what color he was. He was his class president and I welcomed him with open arms to be my friend.

A winner in life and great role model.

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Re: Why are the Rizzutos so alligned with black gangs? [Re: RushStreet] #1086256
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So John Gotti is a great role model and a winner in life ?

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Re: Why are the Rizzutos so alligned with black gangs? [Re: Blackmobs] #1086257
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Originally Posted by Blackmobs
So John Gotti is a great role model and a winner in life ?


I never said that. All Im saying is that I agree with him on a certain group of people as it has nothing to do with color. Color doesn't identify the culture you are involved with or promote.

I hate the Aryan brotherhood as well.

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Re: Why are the Rizzutos so alligned with black gangs? [Re: RushStreet] #1086261
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Then why title it black gangs if color has nothing to do with it? lol not the trust time you've made some racist ass comments and try backtracking when it's brought up.

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Re: Why are the Rizzutos so alligned with black gangs? [Re: RushStreet] #1086262
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Because it specifies the specific culture that they are involved with.

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They are criminals and only think to made money! John Gotti was a fucking racist and today Cosa Nostra had more ties with black hangs because they have more power on the streets and men that can kill anyone for few bucks,ask Zottola.

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NY wiseguys have plenty of connections with African American gangsters. In 2010 the New Jersey faction of the Lucchese crime family was involved in a racket together with a faction of the Bloods gang. The Genovese had ties to Harlem gangsters all the way back in the 50's. These kind of ties go way back.

For sure there are wiseguys in NYC that like some of their African American, Dominican, Puerto Rican, Jamaican, Albanian, Russian, Irish, Jewish, etc...associates better than some of their Italian American colleagues from their own family.

At the end of the day, the only color that actually matters is green.

Re: Why are the Rizzutos so alligned with black gangs? [Re: RushStreet] #1086274
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So you are saying that Gotti was a minority when it came to his feelings? BTW I highly doubt that as many guys from that generation openly hated guys who were black and low life scumbags. This is why their daughters would never ever date a black guy and their sons wouldn't ever think of dating a black girl. It was forbidden!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If any of his crew would have associated with the people he hated he would have had them whacked as well. Even in the movie Goodfellas they talk about how much they hate them and that is based on how it was in real life. Not really sure why the new generation is o open to dealing with these people. You are not talking about good people here. Why the fuck would you assocaite with people who are going to more than likely rat on you to save their own ass? Black criminals will fuck you over in a second, that is a fact.

Its very confusing as to why the younger generation in todays LCN dresses like they are a ghetto black hoodlum rapper. Fuckin Joke to be honest with you that they idolize these pieces of shit. There grandfathers would have put a bullet in their fuckin head for being so fucking stupid. Do not try to justify their actions, as they are bullshit. You know it, I know it.

I admire John Gotti, but I sure as fuck don't admire Peter Pan that is for sure. If he's the future of LCN then its fucked that is for sure.




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The most dysfunctional "organized crime" groups are black groups. In fact, they are so disorganized that it's even a challenge to file their activities under the organized crime umbrella. They have never been able to organize or establish a sophisticated unit that lasted for a significant amount of time. All you need to do is look at the Bloods and the Crips. I am very familiar with their history in Los Angeles and their lack of progress as criminals. There are no gangbangers who are millionaires. That is not to say that you don't have powerful individuals who are affiliated with them or a particular set. You have your Suge Knights and your Harry-Os, but even they try to limit their interactions with that world. You are not a racist for pointing out facts! There's plenty of smart black people around, but you won't find them throwing up gang signs.


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Originally Posted by RushStreet
So you are saying that Gotti was a minority when it came to his feelings? BTW I highly doubt that as many guys from that generation openly hated guys who were black and low life scumbags. This is why their daughters would never ever date a black guy and their sons wouldn't ever think of dating a black girl. It was forbidden!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If any of his crew would have associated with the people he hated he would have had them whacked as well. Even in the movie Goodfellas they talk about how much they hate them and that is based on how it was in real life. Not really sure why the new generation is o open to dealing with these people. You are not talking about good people here. Why the fuck would you assocaite with people who are going to more than likely rat on you to save their own ass? Black criminals will fuck you over in a second, that is a fact.

Its very confusing as to why the younger generation in todays LCN dresses like they are a ghetto black hoodlum rapper. Fuckin Joke to be honest with you that they idolize these pieces of shit. There grandfathers would have put a bullet in their fuckin head for being so fucking stupid. Do not try to justify their actions, as they are bullshit. You know it, I know it.

I admire John Gotti, but I sure as fuck don't admire Peter Pan that is for sure. If he's the future of LCN then its fucked that is for sure.





Bro STFU, you’re weird

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Originally Posted by Giacalone
The most dysfunctional "organized crime" groups are black groups. In fact, they are so disorganized that it's even a challenge to file their activities under the organized crime umbrella. They have never been able to organize or establish a sophisticated unit that lasted for a significant amount of time. All you need to do is look at the Bloods and the Crips. I am very familiar with their history in Los Angeles and their lack of progress as criminals. There are no gangbangers who are millionaires. That is not to say that you don't have powerful individuals who are affiliated with them or a particular set. You have your Suge Knights and your Harry-Os, but even they try to limit their interactions with that world. You are not a racist for pointing out facts! There's plenty of smart black people around, but you won't find them throwing up gang signs.


Correct, and I'm glad you understand my logic. I do not understand why any organized crime group would want to associate with these people let alone dress like them. Wow, just wow. I am fucking mind blown on this bullshit that is happening today.

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Originally Posted by RushStreet
John Gotti wouldnt have approved of this. He honestly would have thrown up.

Why are the Rizzutos so different?


Gotti had junkies doing hits for him !!!

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Originally Posted by DiLorenzo
Originally Posted by RushStreet
John Gotti wouldnt have approved of this. He honestly would have thrown up.

Why are the Rizzutos so different?


Gotti had junkies doing hits for him !!!


That is a topic for another day.

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Given how much experience blacks have with crime, you would think they'd do a little better. That's not the case though


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Originally Posted by Giacalone
Given how much experience blacks have with crime, you would think they'd do a little better. That's not the case though


Agreed.

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Originally Posted by Giacalone
The most dysfunctional "organized crime" groups are black groups. In fact, they are so disorganized that it's even a challenge to file their activities under the organized crime umbrella. They have never been able to organize or establish a sophisticated unit that lasted for a significant amount of time. All you need to do is look at the Bloods and the Crips. I am very familiar with their history in Los Angeles and their lack of progress as criminals. There are no gangbangers who are millionaires. That is not to say that you don't have powerful individuals who are affiliated with them or a particular set. You have your Suge Knights and your Harry-Os, but even they try to limit their interactions with that world. You are not a racist for pointing out facts! There's plenty of smart black people around, but you won't find them throwing up gang signs.


Clearly you & Rush have a bias and needs to be cleared up. I have been posting Black Underworld topics since 2012. Literally going on 12+ years now. So your either go through my posts about and actually learn something new ( recent ex: $550 million fraud scheme by a Crip in CA prison) or stop these posts about Mobsters networking with Black crime groups since i doubt yall can tell a Jamaican, Haitian, Afro American apart. This been going for decades, all these scumbags care about is money.


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They deal with eachother because it's all about money in Montreal allies are important.


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Originally Posted by BlackFamily
Originally Posted by Giacalone
The most dysfunctional "organized crime" groups are black groups. In fact, they are so disorganized that it's even a challenge to file their activities under the organized crime umbrella. They have never been able to organize or establish a sophisticated unit that lasted for a significant amount of time. All you need to do is look at the Bloods and the Crips. I am very familiar with their history in Los Angeles and their lack of progress as criminals. There are no gangbangers who are millionaires. That is not to say that you don't have powerful individuals who are affiliated with them or a particular set. You have your Suge Knights and your Harry-Os, but even they try to limit their interactions with that world. You are not a racist for pointing out facts! There's plenty of smart black people around, but you won't find them throwing up gang signs.


Clearly you & Rush have a bias and needs to be cleared up. I have been posting Black Underworld topics since 2012. Literally going on 12+ years now. So your either go through my posts about and actually learn something new ( recent ex: $550 million fraud scheme by a Crip in CA prison) or stop these posts about Mobsters networking with Black crime groups since i doubt yall can tell a Jamaican, Haitian, Afro American apart. This been going for decades, all these scumbags care about is money.


A Crip in prison LOL

You are funny. As far as mob guys collaborating with black gangs or even black individuals, it is quite rare overall. You might find some form of it in Montreal or even in New York, but the overwhelming majority of Italian-American wiseguys absolutely despise black criminals. All you need to do is listen to some wiretaps that have been made public

I remember when Sammy Gravano first came out of prison in 1995, he talked about this. Do you know how Staten Island reacted to his own daughter having a child with her black boyfriend? Yes, Karen Gravano has also gone on record about how blacks are viewed in those circles. Later of course Sammy changed his tune because he wanted to get into the good graces of some black podcasters. When John Gotti said to his grandson and I quote "Being a ni--er is an embarrassment" he was echoing every mob guy out there. They absolutely despise blacks. This is not my bias. John Gotti said this.

All you need to do is look at the facts. There really is no black organized crime. There is just black disorganized crime. I know you'll probably try to bring up the Shower Posse or some drug organizations that barely lasted longer than five minutes, but there's nothing they've put together that comes even close to the Italians, the Mexicans, the Colombians, the Russians, you just name it.


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