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Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: Hollander] #1074472
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Thanks Rush, but I really don't think you would've made it through the nitty-gritty 1990s era. A motherfucker would've made you choke you on your teeth. But hey, it's the 21st Century, you're a motherfucking badass.

Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: Liggio] #1074473
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Originally Posted by Liggio
Hollander, do you think that Sicilians really want to be free from all the bullshit and not be tied to the Mafia? I met a Sicilian Uber driver where I'm from who couldn't relate to our fascination with the Mafia. At the same time, does it really matter?


It's just a big stigma for Italians, I had some cooking lessons from a Chef (a Dutchman) the first thing we talked about when we were cooking Italian was the Mafia it has become a brand lol.



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Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: Hollander] #1074474
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Man, these guys should stick to their bloodlines. But simultaneously stick to those who are down for the cause, because blood isn't always thicker than water.

Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: Hollander] #1074475
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Ciccio Rappa already spoke to the judges usually they stay silent, he said he had nothing to do with Cosa Nostra anymore.


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Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: Liggio] #1074476
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Originally Posted by Liggio
Thanks Rush, but I really don't think you would've made it through the nitty-gritty 1990s era. A motherfucker would've made you choke you on your teeth. But hey, it's the 21st Century, you're a motherfucking badass.








Dont go there internet tough guy. Make me choke on my own teeth? Lol ok.

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Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: Hollander] #1074477
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So Hollander, do you think they're open to anyone wanting to hang out lol? The rules of the streets are universal. I think if you don't mean any harm, you'll be fine. They're not interested in the common man.

Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: Liggio] #1074479
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Originally Posted by Liggio
Rush you're softer than a roll of Charmin, shut your bitch ass up before I check your punk ass


Whatever you say.

Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: RushStreet] #1074480
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Rush, I'm really not into that stupid mentality anymore, but I have to ask, are you really serious or just trolling? I used to be just like you. I thought every mob guy by default was to be like John Gotti. But in reality, true gangsters are much more calculating and unassuming.

Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: Liggio] #1074483
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Originally Posted by Liggio
Rush, I'm really not into that stupid mentality anymore, but I have to ask, are you really serious or just trolling? I used to be just like you. I thought every mob guy by default was to be like John Gotti. But in reality, true gangsters are much more calculating and unassuming.


Dont expect them to be John Gotti but I do expect their wives to dress appropriately when they leave the house.

Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: Hollander] #1074486
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Guys
Many years ago men would wear a suit to a movie theater. Not that long ago, men would wear a suit to go to work. Today, try finding a guy that works at an office that has to report to work everyday in a suit; they work from home in their pajama's.
Mob guys were told to dress appropriately when going to a social club. The world has changed, it's about comfort and convenience. The mob is no different, in fact, they would stick out like sore thumbs if they weren't dressed in jeans or gym attire.
Some of the pics you guys see are of guys who were picked up by law enforcement early in the morning and told to put on whatever was on their bedroom floor. Me, I would demand to comb my hair first.

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Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: Lenox] #1074495
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Originally Posted by Lenox
Guys
Many years ago men would wear a suit to a movie theater. Not that long ago, men would wear a suit to go to work. Today, try finding a guy that works at an office that has to report to work everyday in a suit; they work from home in their pajama's.
Mob guys were told to dress appropriately when going to a social club. The world has changed, it's about comfort and convenience. The mob is no different, in fact, they would stick out like sore thumbs if they weren't dressed in jeans or gym attire.
Some of the pics you guys see are of guys who were picked up by law enforcement early in the morning and told to put on whatever was on their bedroom floor. Me, I would demand to comb my hair first.


Whats their wives excuse then? Wtf is that shit?

Actually when I analyze the picture of her she may have been headed to the gym when her husband got arrested.




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Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: Hollander] #1074496
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Another thing people have an issue with is that these people that are now coming up in the mob are the same kind of people that The Oldtimers despised!!! That's the issue that people are having with this current state of the mafia!

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Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: Hollander] #1074497
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What’s with the fashion obsession on here? These guys dress like regular people for the most part. Some dress like slobs most of the time. Wannabes dress like “mobsters”. I hope you guys realize the photos of wiseguys online are usually at weddings and shit. Either way, it’s kind of weird and makes some of us not want to spend any time here.

Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: Hollander] #1074498
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Has anyone here ever actually dressed up? It's a fucking pain in the ass.

Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: southshorekid] #1074499
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Originally Posted by southshorekid
What’s with the fashion obsession on here? These guys dress like regular people for the most part. Some dress like slobs most of the time. Wannabes dress like “mobsters”. I hope you guys realize the photos of wiseguys online are usually at weddings and shit. Either way, it’s kind of weird and makes some of us not want to spend any time here.


If you take a look at the older regime they're dressed up most of the time. I'm not talking suits either. I'm talking a nice pair of black slacks and a polo for example.

Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: Hollander] #1074500
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Rush, why won't you save all that "How to dress and groom" advice for one of your upcoming Grindr dates?

Anybody who thinks that gangsters in 2023 should be strolling around 24/7 in high-end fashion designer clothes hasn't been around an actual gangster in real life in at least 30 years.

Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: TheKillingJoke] #1074501
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Originally Posted by TheKillingJoke
Rush, why won't you save all that "How to dress and groom" advice for one of your upcoming Grindr dates?

Anybody who thinks that gangsters in 2023 should be strolling around 24/7 in high-end fashion designer clothes hasn't been around an actual gangster in real life in at least 30 years.


Mancuso wears all designer clothes. Hes dressed nicely most of the time.

Same with his acting bosss of that family. The one he was photographed with who was dressed in all black with sunglasses. He wouldn't be caught dead dressing like shit!

Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: Hollander] #1074502
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Mancuso and Johnny Joe have style. They also seem to want their members to dress well. I really like the Bonanno leadership personally. They're doing it right and not afraid to slap people, even at wakes. It's no mercy like Cobra Kai. You have to respect them

Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: ralphie_cifaretto] #1074503
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Originally Posted by ralphie_cifaretto
Mancuso and Johnny Joe have style. They also seem to want their members to dress well. I really like the Bonanno leadership personally. They're doing it right and not afraid to slap people, even at wakes. It's no mercy like Cobra Kai. You have to respect them


Agreed. Seems like the Bonnanos are just a different breed than the Gambinos in the way they conduct their family in 2023. A family to be respected.

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Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: Hollander] #1074512
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International mafia bust shows US-Italy crime links still strong

By Max Matza
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Their names could have been ripped from the kind of Hollywood mafia script that once dominated US cinema.

But when an indictment dropped on Wednesday, Joseph "Joe Brooklyn" Lanni, Angelo "Fifi" Gradilone, and Francesco "Uncle Ciccio" Vicar were instead the faces of the justice department's latest attack on the notorious Gambino crime family in New York.

Charging documents filed by prosecutors used wiretaps, secret recordings and surveillance footage to lay out evidence against the men, accusing them of conspiracy to use violence and extortion to commit fraud and retaliate against witnesses.

However, as the initial excitement waned, experts observed that the latest round-up - which snared 16 alleged mafia members - was unlikely to have a major effect on criminal operations.

Instead, the real twist revealed by the documents was the ongoing and close relationship between the New York based mafia, and its progenitor in Sicily - where six of the suspects were detained.

Italian officials said the arrests demonstrated "the solidity of the existing relationship" between American and Sicilian gangsters.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67387249


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Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: Hollander] #1074517
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Mafia, Matteo Messina Denaro was annoyed by the fugitives in his area
The detail comes out of the investigation that led to the latest operation conducted by the police and the FBI. Two of the seven arrested talk about it

NOVEMBER 11, 2023

They had even managed to make the boss Matteo Messina Denaro nervous because they had not informed him that Mimmo Raccuglia, the mafia boss of Altofonte, was hiding in the province of Trapani. The former Scarlet Pimpernel of Cosa Nostra - who died on 25 September in L'Aquila hospital - who had managed to evade capture for 30 years, went into a rage when he learned that another man of honor had chosen precisely the his own territory to escape the police. 15 years after that episode - Raccuglia was caught in November 2009 in Calatafimi-Segesta, after 13 years on the run - Giovan Battista Badalamenti, one of the undisputed and historic leaders of the Torretta mafia family, but resident for some time in the United States, and his nephew Salvatore Prestigiacomo, also an affiliate who maintained relations with his overseas cousins, still talked about it, showing fear and respect for the Castelvetrano boss. The two ended up, together with five other people and ten members of the New York mafia, in the raid that began after international police and FBI investigations.


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Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: Liggio] #1074561
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Originally Posted by Liggio
Rush, I'm really not into that stupid mentality anymore, but I have to ask, are you really serious or just trolling? I used to be just like you. I thought every mob guy by default was to be like John Gotti. But in reality, true gangsters are much more calculating and unassuming.


You have proven to be a total moron. Too bad you probably are banned.

Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: Hollander] #1074563
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Thanks Rush, I better not reply to you since I'm banned.

Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: Hollander] #1074567
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Badalamenti has not been arrested.

Giovan Battista Badalamenti, 69 years old, brother of Martino, the boss of Torretta serving a life sentence, managed to escape the arrest order issued on Wednesday and the raid by the SCO and the FBI. It was he who said that the mandate would be entrusted to the old mafioso Francesco Rappa and also who spoke about Matteo Messina Denaro.

Since Wednesday morning there has been no trace of him, neither in Torretta, nor in Palermo nor in the United States.

It was him who demonstrated his belonging to the Torretta clan and his closeness to Vito Vitale, head of the Partinico district with his brother Leonardo.

Investigators are looking for him and it is likely that the Palermo DDA will make an extradition request to the United States, where the suspect could be. And Badalamenti could soon go from wanted status to fugitive status.


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Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: Hollander] #1074570
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Quickly scrolled through this, so just so I am getting this correctly the Gambino's used the Sicilians to intimidate people they were trying to extort? I am trying to figure out how its an International case, just because there is a Sicilian guy in NY?


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Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: LaLouisiane] #1074571
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Originally Posted by LaLouisiane
Quickly scrolled through this, so just so I am getting this correctly the Gambino's used the Sicilians to intimidate people they were trying to extort? I am trying to figure out how its an International case, just because there is a Sicilian guy in NY?


Exactly , Sicilians in Sicily put pressure on family members still living in Sicily.


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Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: Strax] #1074572
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Crazy with today's technology these guys didn't think that one three letter agency or another would be screening certain international calls and probably pick it up then refer it to FBI or whom it may concern.


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Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: Hollander] #1074573
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Organized crime has always had to worry about police, mob roundups are nothing new. Mobsters aren't going to stop being mobsters just because there's technology everywhere.

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Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: Hollander] #1074574
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To further prove my point, those who are able still run their rackets from prison!

Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: Hollander] #1074575
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Yea that kind of goes without saying, but ok. Point being there are certain apps, the dark web. Odds are the Sicilian guy called his buddies across the pond and I’m sure the FBI already knew who he was and were waiting to start piecing it all together.


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