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Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: Malavita] #1074240
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Originally Posted by Malavita
No suprise on Joe Lanni. He was reported as being the one who took over Franck Cali's affairs after his death.

I assume James LaForte is the son of Joseph "Joe the Cat" LaForte. In his podcats last year, Gravano talked about Joe the Cat having his son made.


Must be the other son because James LaForte was made after his father died

Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: Hollander] #1074241
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A few month ago, we had a good exchange on the LaForte family, including James who was charged for fraud and extorsion in Philly : Here

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Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: Hollander] #1074244
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NY Post: There’s pictures of Lanni in Toms River at the Gas Station down the street from my house shortly after the restaurant assault at Roxy’s in Toms River over this past Labor Day Weekend, can’t believe the Feds picked it up.

https://nypost.com/2023/11/08/metro...-crime-family-with-racketeering-charges/

-Dante

Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: Mafia101] #1074245
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Originally Posted by Mafia101
Originally Posted by Malavita
No suprise on Joe Lanni. He was reported as being the one who took over Franck Cali's affairs after his death.

I assume James LaForte is the son of Joseph "Joe the Cat" LaForte. In his podcats last year, Gravano talked about Joe the Cat having his son made.


Must be the other son because James LaForte was made after his father died


James is Joe the Cat's grandson actually. His uncle was Buddy LaForte (not his father)


But you had to play it cool, had to do it your way
Had to be a fool, had to throw it all away
Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: Hollander] #1074246
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Nice article Dante. Some great pics in there.

Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: Hollander] #1074247
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Here is Gravano's video about Joe The Cat and his relatives : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOHXJX9J_is

He actually wanted to kill his own son over money !

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Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: NYMafia] #1074248
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Originally Posted by NYMafia
Very good article Hollander. Frank Rappa became a notorious mafioso in the states back in the 70s. He was deeply involved in the heroin traffic.


24 June 2005 was his relative Mario Rappa of the Vitale clan killed, of this were the Provenzano allies suspected.


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Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: Hollander] #1074249
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The whole thing sounds like they made 2 separate arrests of 2 different groups and want to tie them together to jazz up the case. One group arrested in Italy, and other in the states. The take a loose tie between one of those indicted and make it one big international case, which it isn't.

Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: jace] #1074251
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Originally Posted by jace
The whole thing sounds like they made 2 separate arrests of 2 different groups and want to tie them together to jazz up the case. One group arrested in Italy, and other in the states. The take a loose tie between one of those indicted and make it one big international case, which it isn't.


The thing is Sicilian Cosa Nostra helped the Americans to cash in by putting pressure on the victims' families who still live in Sicily.


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Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: Hollander] #1074268
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“LaForte called John Doe 6 a ‘rat,’ and hit [him] in the face with a bottle,” the indictment continued. “LaForte and Minsquero also flipped John Doe 6’s table, sending drinks and shattered glass everywhere.”

And yet people say these kind of things don't happen anymore.

Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: Hollander] #1074271
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One guy is still at large, he's probably the limiuni (lemon) guy, the influence Rappa Sr has is unbelievable. While he was in prison in Naples the bosses would still meet inside this was not that long ago.


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Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: Hollander] #1074281
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Originally Posted by Hollander
Joe Lanni no suprise lol..


He is total idiot, he said to the victim "I am a Gambino" lol Went to gas station full of cameras to buy canister to burn the place down, i have no idea how he is not shelved yet.


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Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: Strax] #1074292
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Originally Posted by Strax
Originally Posted by Hollander
Joe Lanni no suprise lol..


He is total idiot, he said to the victim "I am a Gambino" lol Went to gas station full of cameras to buy canister to burn the place down, i have no idea how he is not shelved yet.


Thats a very good point Strax, and I agree with you. In fact, if thats what he said, then his words are so foreign to how a goodfella talks thats its actually embarrassing, and his actions speak of a novice, not a seasoned intelligent guy. And if memory serves me correctly, from what the feds say, he has a "position" too!

This is the "quality" of many members nowadays.

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Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: Hollander] #1074296
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Today's NEWSDAY reports on the Long Islanders charged in the case...
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Alleged Gambino crime family members Salvatore DiLorenzo, Francesco Vicari charged in racketeering conspiracy.

Two Long Island men are among 10 alleged Gambino crime family members and associates charged in a racketeering conspiracy indictment for attempt to dominate the New York carting and demolition industries, federal prosecutors said.

Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: Hollander] #1074298
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He really said I am a Gambino? Since when did they start actually calling themselves by the names the government gave them? Ridiculous. There's no more mystery or mystique to the Mafia anymore, they might as well start getting what they are tattooed on their bodies like those dirty bikers and other gangs.

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Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: Hollander] #1074299
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This crew sounds like a 1960s or 70s crew, only without all the murders. They don't fit into the 21st Century. Absolutely no high-tech or sophisticated crimes anywhere in the indictment. In this day and age, if we're not talking about tens of millions or hundreds of millions of dollars, it's a total waste and embarrassing.

Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: Liggio] #1074300
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Originally Posted by Liggio
This crew sounds like a 1960s or 70s crew, only without all the murders. They don't fit into the 21st Century. Absolutely no high-tech or sophisticated crimes anywhere in the indictment. In this day and age, if we're not talking about tens of millions or hundreds of millions of dollars, it's a total waste and embarrassing.

I'm not surprised... extortion is the most typical mafia crime since the beginning

Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: Hollander] #1074301
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When they were asked to leave, Lanni threatened to burn the place down and told "I am a Gambino". He then went to gas station full of cameras to buy canister. Lanni then called the place 39 times, later that night when owner and his wife left the place , they were attacked by 2 guys who slashed their car tiers and threatened to kill them.


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Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: Hollander] #1074302
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That's not how it's done. If he was a smooth operator, he would've left with a smile, and two weeks later had them attacked. I would actually find that much more intimidating and effective.

Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: Liggio] #1074303
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Originally Posted by Liggio
That's not how it's done. If he was a smooth operator, he would've left with a smile, and two weeks later had them attacked. I would actually find that much more intimidating and effective.


He was probably high on cocaine and drunk. Apparently his crew is one of the strongest and he is pretty wealthy. Too bad he is a loose cannon.


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Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: Strax] #1074304
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Originally Posted by Strax
Originally Posted by Liggio
That's not how it's done. If he was a smooth operator, he would've left with a smile, and two weeks later had them attacked. I would actually find that much more intimidating and effective.


He was probably high on cocaine and drunk. Apparently his crew is one of the strongest and he is pretty wealthy. Too bad he is a loose cannon.


High on cocaine? The Sicilian faction is notoriously against drug use. Lanni however is a drinker. Let's not accuse someone of drug use like that without zero fucking evidence

Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: Liggio] #1074305
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Originally Posted by Liggio
He really said I am a Gambino? Since when did they start actually calling themselves by the names the government gave them? Ridiculous. There's no more mystery or mystique to the Mafia anymore, they might as well start getting what they are tattooed on their bodies like those dirty bikers and other gangs.


The government didn't give them that name

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In 1963, the 5 Families were named after the flipping of Joseph Valachi, with the Profaci Family the only one being renamed, becoming the Colombo Family. Before then, LCN members didn't call themselves by any Family names. Nobody fucking ran around saying "I'm a Gagliano" or "I'm a Luciano," I think I know what the fuck I'm talking about so shut the fuck up.

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Shut the fuck up scumbag. You're a fucking kid in Houston who was probably 3 when John Gotti died. The families have pretty much renamed themselves. They almost renamed the Bonanno family when that rat fuck Massino was the boss

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If the Families renamed themselves, then how come he didn't say "I'm a Cefalu" or "I'm a Mannino?" No disrespect, but this is a common misperception that the Families named themselves. I even saw someone on YouTube say that Vito Genovese named his borgata after himself. Yes, the Bonannos did contemplate renaming themselves the Massino Family, but it doesn't negate the fact that their current official names weren't given to them by the Mafia itself. It seems like they just run with their given names. Back to the point, going around telling civilians I'm a Gambino or a Colombo sounds more like some petty Blood and Crip gangbanging shit to me.

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If the Bonanno Family had succeeded in renaming itself the Massino Family it would mark the 1st time an LCN Family actually named itself. They would've made history.

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Originally Posted by Liggio
If the Bonanno Family had succeeded in renaming itself the Massino Family it would mark the 1st time an LCN Family actually named itself. They would've made history.


Thats not true Liggio

Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: NYMafia] #1074316
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Originally Posted by NYMafia

his actions speak of a novice, not a seasoned intelligent guy. And if memory serves me correctly, from what the feds say, he has a "position" too!


I agree, he is acting and sounds like a wannabe, hard to imagine him being a captain. Lets see how much time he is facing


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Re: 17 arrests between Palermo and New York [Re: NYMafia] #1074319
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So you're saying that the 5 Families named themselves?

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Okay, regardless of how it happened, can't we all agree that telling civilians I'm a Gambino is one of the most ridiculous things you ever heard? Those words shouldn't have to be spoken, people should just know by reputation alone.

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