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An idea for resolve the oc prolems in italy? #1070482
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my idea to repress organized crime in Italy.
a law should be made that would pass the fight against organized crime to military jurisdiction.
therefore all those whose belonging to organized crime is certain should be arrested by the army and taken to special internment camps while the wives, if conniving, would also be interned and their children given into foster care to other families

The men who play a leading role will be sent to 41 bis to await trial, specifying that in the event of a guilty verdict they would be executed, their bodies burned and the ashes placed in an urn to which the state secret will be affixed .
Naturally, anyone who speaks will get a discounted sentence.

Of course it's just an idea here we're talking about 20 thousand men and women and there would be a need for various fields but at least it's an idea to start from.

Re: An idea for resolve the oc prolems in italy? [Re: furio_from_naples] #1070483
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Its impossible to get rid of organized crime, in China you have death sentence for drugs , they straight up kill you ,no trial at all and you still have people involved in organized crime. You can only weaken organized crime by legalizing drugs.


"A fish with his mouth closed never get's caught"
Re: An idea for resolve the oc prolems in italy? [Re: Strax] #1070484
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Originally Posted by Strax
Its impossible to get rid of organized crime, in China you have death sentence for drugs , they straight up kill you ,no trial at all and you still have people involved in organized crime. You can only weaken organized crime by legalizing drugs.


I believe you are correct. The only truly effective way to eradicate organized crime is to legalize everything, this way there is no "crime" left to "organize."

Re: An idea for resolve the oc prolems in italy? [Re: furio_from_naples] #1070485
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Gambling is becoming legalized, yet we still see multimillion-dollar gambling rings being busted. Cigarettes are legal, yet there are still huge cigarette smuggling operations out there. Organized crime is not going away, learn to live with it. I'm sure if we really knew even a fraction of all the evil the government does, we would think these gangsters getting arrested were little angels.

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Re: An idea for resolve the oc prolems in italy? [Re: Strax] #1070487
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Originally Posted by Strax
Its impossible to get rid of organized crime, in China you have death sentence for drugs , they straight up kill you ,no trial at all and you still have people involved in organized crime. You can only weaken organized crime by legalizing drugs.


For me every members of camorra,mafia,stidda,ndragheta and Sacra Corona Unita must be killed with a bullet in the head.
Who want to survive must speak on what they know about the rackets and who are the business men or freemasons that help the oc gruops.
Who are involved eith the oc gruops should risk 10 y only for be involved in criminal activities and the prison will be the 41 bis.

Re: An idea for resolve the oc prolems in italy? [Re: furio_from_naples] #1070488
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So basically, you want to usher in a brutal dictatorship. Organized crime actually adds balance, I don't want the government running everything.

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Re: An idea for resolve the oc prolems in italy? [Re: furio_from_naples] #1070498
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I am just talking about drugs , legalize drugs and it will weaken organized crime, drugs are biggest money makers by far , money=power. Also drugs business brings a lot of violence with it and so on , pretty much like alcohol during prohibition


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Re: An idea for resolve the oc prolems in italy? [Re: furio_from_naples] #1070499
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Marijuana is becoming legal, yet there's still huge marijuana-trafficking rings. As I've said before, still a lot of organized crime involvement in the trafficking of untaxed cigarettes. And let's face it, many drugs out there will never be as legal and readily available as alcohol and tobacco.

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Re: An idea for resolve the oc prolems in italy? [Re: Liggio] #1070500
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Originally Posted by Liggio
As I've said before, still a lot of organized crime involvement in the trafficking of untaxed cigarettes. And let's face it, many drugs out there will never be as legal and readily available as alcohol and tobacco.


You can't compare earnings from tax-free cigarettes with earnings from cocaine/heroin. We are talking what if here, if they legalized all drugs, everybody would buy directly from the state, you know what you are getting and its quality. There is no point in drugs being illegal, if someone wants to do drugs , he is gonna do them doesn't matter if they are legal or not.


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Re: An idea for resolve the oc prolems in italy? [Re: furio_from_naples] #1070502
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Re: An idea for resolve the oc prolems in italy? [Re: Liggio] #1070503
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Originally Posted by Liggio
So basically, you want to usher in a brutal dictatorship. Organized crime actually adds balance, I don't want the government running everything.


A revolution before the rogue politicians after all the criminals from the mafias then send the americans away from their bases in italian soil.

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Nope. He tried but stopped before arrive to the politicians that was protecting the mafiosi.

Re: An idea for resolve the oc prolems in italy? [Re: furio_from_naples] #1070505
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Originally Posted by furio_from_naples
my idea to repress organized crime in Italy.
a law should be made that would pass the fight against organized crime to military jurisdiction.
therefore all those whose belonging to organized crime is certain should be arrested by the army and taken to special internment camps while the wives, if conniving, would also be interned and their children given into foster care to other families

The men who play a leading role will be sent to 41 bis to await trial, specifying that in the event of a guilty verdict they would be executed, their bodies burned and the ashes placed in an urn to which the state secret will be affixed .
Naturally, anyone who speaks will get a discounted sentence.

Of course it's just an idea here we're talking about 20 thousand men and women and there would be a need for various fields but at least it's an idea to start from.


Giving it to the military will only result in a dictatorship for Italy. The problem we have today is the liberal mind set of politicians and governments. Most countries have already passed laws to deal with the problem; but this new liberal philosophy prevent law authorities from doing their jobs and the ones they do arrest, are released by government appointed liberal judges.

Re: An idea for resolve the oc prolems in italy? [Re: furio_from_naples] #1070507
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Originally Posted by furio_from_naples
my idea to repress organized crime in Italy.
a law should be made that would pass the fight against organized crime to military jurisdiction.
therefore all those whose belonging to organized crime is certain should be arrested by the army and taken to special internment camps while the wives, if conniving, would also be interned and their children given into foster care to other families

The men who play a leading role will be sent to 41 bis to await trial, specifying that in the event of a guilty verdict they would be executed, their bodies burned and the ashes placed in an urn to which the state secret will be affixed .
Naturally, anyone who speaks will get a discounted sentence.

Of course it's just an idea here we're talking about 20 thousand men and women and there would be a need for various fields but at least it's an idea to start from.


You sound like a complete maniac. You also said you want to execute all found guilty. Maybe you want to kill babies too.

Re: An idea for resolve the oc prolems in italy? [Re: furio_from_naples] #1070510
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But the state doesn't need to control drugs. That's the problem with you statists, you want everything in the hands of the government. Not good. Organized crime adds balance. And they would still profit from cocaine and heroin even if it was legal, outlaws are a lot more intelligent than given credit for, they always find a way. Organized crime will always be around, learn to love it.

Re: An idea for resolve the oc prolems in italy? [Re: furio_from_naples] #1070511
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Yeah, the solution is to bring in another dictatorship, see where this is going?

Re: An idea for resolve the oc prolems in italy? [Re: furio_from_naples] #1070513
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The profits from cigarette smuggling isn't nearly as profitable as hard drugs, but the penalties are FAR less severe.

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While many government officials and law enforcement members are indeed scumbags, but organized crime bosses are the just like them; if they replaced the current governments, they would just do the same shit the government does. It's not like a gangster-controlled government would be more balanced, honest or whatever. Governments are closely tied with organized crime anyway, it's not like they are sworn enemies; all those mass arrests that sometimes happen are just a way to make compromises and trick normal people into thinking something is being done against crime.


Willie Marfeo to Henry Tameleo:

1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."

2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
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If you completely eradicated all groups classified as organized crime groups, the government would still be scumbags. Just look at America for example.

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Originally Posted by Liggio
If you completely eradicated all groups classified as organized crime groups, the government would still be scumbags. Just look at America for example.

I am not disputing that or saying the governments are the good guys. I am just saying that organized crime bosses would do the same things the current governments do, if they replaced them.


Willie Marfeo to Henry Tameleo:

1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."

2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
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Originally Posted by Dwalin2011
Originally Posted by Liggio
If you completely eradicated all groups classified as organized crime groups, the government would still be scumbags. Just look at America for example.

I am not disputing that or saying the governments are the good guys. I am just saying that organized crime bosses would do the same things the current governments do, if they replaced them.



They would probably run the country way better.

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He even wants to bring back the torture chambers, Furio would make a good mobster himself lol.

Re: An idea for resolve the oc prolems in italy? [Re: jace] #1070541
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Originally Posted by jace
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my idea to repress organized crime in Italy.
a law should be made that would pass the fight against organized crime to military jurisdiction.
therefore all those whose belonging to organized crime is certain should be arrested by the army and taken to special internment camps while the wives, if conniving, would also be interned and their children given into foster care to other families

The men who play a leading role will be sent to 41 bis to await trial, specifying that in the event of a guilty verdict they would be executed, their bodies burned and the ashes placed in an urn to which the state secret will be affixed .
Naturally, anyone who speaks will get a discounted sentence.

Of course it's just an idea here we're talking about 20 thousand men and women and there would be a need for various fields but at least it's an idea to start from.


You sound like a complete maniac. You also said you want to execute all found guilty. Maybe you want to kill babies too.


The babies would send to families that will take care of them.

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Originally Posted by furio_from_naples
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Originally Posted by furio_from_naples
my idea to repress organized crime in Italy.
a law should be made that would pass the fight against organized crime to military jurisdiction.
therefore all those whose belonging to organized crime is certain should be arrested by the army and taken to special internment camps while the wives, if conniving, would also be interned and their children given into foster care to other families

The men who play a leading role will be sent to 41 bis to await trial, specifying that in the event of a guilty verdict they would be executed, their bodies burned and the ashes placed in an urn to which the state secret will be affixed .
Naturally, anyone who speaks will get a discounted sentence.

Of course it's just an idea here we're talking about 20 thousand men and women and there would be a need for various fields but at least it's an idea to start from.


You sound like a complete maniac. You also said you want to execute all found guilty. Maybe you want to kill babies too.


The babies would send to families that will take care of them.



I often wonder if you do this sort of thing as a sick joke. Kill mass numbers of men, kill or imprison their wives if it is felt they were in the know, and seize people's children and babies to give them away to who you see fit. You either have a dictator fantasy, or are playing around,

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What's really the big deal? I mean what effect do they really have on the average guy over there? I'm sure you don't even notice their presence in your everyday life. They don't even look the part anymore. They blend right in. I know I've seen pictures.

Re: An idea for resolve the oc prolems in italy? [Re: furio_from_naples] #1070579
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Originally Posted by jace
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Originally Posted by furio_from_naples
my idea to repress organized crime in Italy.
a law should be made that would pass the fight against organized crime to military jurisdiction.
therefore all those whose belonging to organized crime is certain should be arrested by the army and taken to special internment camps while the wives, if conniving, would also be interned and their children given into foster care to other families

The men who play a leading role will be sent to 41 bis to await trial, specifying that in the event of a guilty verdict they would be executed, their bodies burned and the ashes placed in an urn to which the state secret will be affixed .
Naturally, anyone who speaks will get a discounted sentence.

Of course it's just an idea here we're talking about 20 thousand men and women and there would be a need for various fields but at least it's an idea to start from.


You sound like a complete maniac. You also said you want to execute all found guilty. Maybe you want to kill babies too.


The babies would send to families that will take care of them.



I often wonder if you do this sort of thing as a sick joke. Kill mass numbers of men, kill or imprison their wives if it is felt they were in the know, and seize people's children and babies to give them away to who you see fit. You either have a dictator fantasy, or are playing around,


I would be a dictator if I hurt innocent people but they are not innocent people! Nothing can really change in Italy because the freemasons and the bussiness men protect and made bussiness with the criminals,they are a cancer that must be eradicated.
But are just hypotheses nothing will really happen.


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