Will we ever see a day where the Cartels start doing things here that they do in Mexico? Such as hanging dead bodies on bridges? Killing government officials?

Thoughts?

The USA isnt Mexico. If the cartels would try to do the same things but at north of the border,every federal agencies would hunt them and send them to the maximum security prisons where they won't have the same possibilities to bribe the guards or even escape by prison like Chapo.
The cartels know that the best men could flip for don't spent their lives in prison for this reason prefer keep a low profile in american soil.

The US is their biggest and prime market, meaning it wont happen. Similar to when the American Mafia owned Vegas or Havana.

No. They are getting more violent in the States. California is a cash cow for them, then of all the drug users on the streets in that state alone. Some of the politicians in California are rumored to be in the cartels pockets and the cartels have some deep pockets, they even own the Mexican President pretty much. That is just one state.

Regarding the President of Mexico, what was his history with the Cartels before he got elected? How much are they paying him to basically give them a free pass and not interfere with their business?

Yes theres a lot of violence but if they start killing public officials like in the old country, I dont think theyll last more then a week in the states.

You're 1000% correct TD. The U.S. Military would annihilate them in a flash. With all their bullshit they would get stepped on like the cockroach they are by Uncle Sam.

So why the fuck would that not work in Mexico then? Do we really need avocados that badly? Btw all the people that run here for work would be thrilled if our military took care of the bs down there. We could also get the Mexican military to turn on their president in aboout two seconds.

It would work. But for a variety of reasons that won't happen, not the least of which is the fact that Mexico is a sovereign nation with his own laws and legislature and the USA doesn't have the free hand to conduct military operations there as in our own country.

Here? On our own soil? We have the use of the full strength of our resources; all our local and state police departments, the FBI, CIA, State troopers, The National Guard, U.S. Army, Marines, Navy, Air Force, etc., etc., etc. We could, and would deploy any or all of them as we wished.

If we had to, or wanted to, we could squash them like a bug!

Because the Mexico is a failed state where the soldiers instead fight against the cartels become a cartel itself like the Zetas! Do you image us army brigade that turn in a criminal group? Also in Mexico there are a big corruption from the street cop to the Governator,a high poverty and easly the narcos have the money to buy everybody and how say no is tortured and killed along his wife,children,parents ecc.
But the narcos know what would be his end if will shed american blood,look about Kiki Camarena!
Before his death,the DEA ignored the mexican cartels but after made pressure on Mexico for get his killer behind the bars.
Many person made bussiness with the cartels but only because they are keeping the massacre on the South of the border.

Someone explain to me why the fuck we feel the need to not cross the Mexican Government? Why? I do not understand this!

They will never ever ever be able to defeat us if we invaded and fuckin whiped them out. Who the fuck would come to their aid? Anyone care to answer that question? No one is coming to save Mexico if we went in there guns blazing and just destroying everything and everyone that is connected to organized crime. Thats just the facts! We know exactly where everyone is right now , all their hubs, factories, all we would need is to go in there and everything would be fucking blown up in a matter of hours.

What can they possibly do to us? Tariff us on fuckin Avocados? Big fuckin deal.

They have way more to lose than to gain if they fuckin did something after we invaded. 90% of their people would suffer due to being so dependent on the United States. That Mexican President loves to talk and talk but he knows damn well it would be a death sentence if he stood in our way with military force.

To help Mexican Government,the USA should purge all the rogue politicians and act against the cities that are the narcos strongholds in an immaginary world that would be possible in the real life,the US Government should send the army to take control of the narcos strongholds and that is impossible because Mexico is a sovereign state and the americans prefer to think that the Trump with his wall on the border will keep the narcos out US soil.

Maybe near the border, but not deep into the USA.

Furio I understand that, but what if we just went in there and said we don't give a fuck about what you are anymore! Go in there and invade Mexico.

What would happen? No one can do shit to us! We are way too powerful!

I believe tourism in Mexico is booming again, many Europeans so people still feel safe to go there.

Another question...

Why are cartels still committing hits in the United States though and the Italians are not? Just a couple days ago a Mexican couple in a Chicago suburb was found blown to pieces along with their children and 3 dogs. Word is that the guy was in WITSEC. Why are the Mexicans not having issues whacking people and the Italians are? Are the Italians too Americanized in 2023?

The US Govt is by far the biggest terrorist organization on the planet but they do in a passive aggressive way and for the US to invade Mexico and shut down their govt and drug organizations would put the US on even par with Iran, N Korea, etc in the eyes of the world in the main stream media. Realistically the US Govt has deals with the cartels to make sure that all that blood does not spill into the US and keep the drugs flowing and no blood spilling over here.

So you do believe that if we were to go in there with our military, you would see mayhem unfold on our soil over here?

You are 100% correct though the US would destroy Mexico but in the view of the world we just become Russia or China, and we are just under the radar doing that

Heck no, the United State's Salvation Army could destroy the cartels in 30 days; seriously the US Military, the US Marines would end that war in 15 days it would not be like Afghanistan at all due to the Mexican people for the most part want a normal country.

The US Govt is in Mexico right now and tries to get balance between the cartels and 100% have told the leaders of the main cartels like el Mayo Zambada, who is the leader I believe of all of the cartels, to do not get the war near major cities in the US. That one American cartel dude la barbie, just got off the US Fed prison roster and then all of a sudden arrests were being made is not a coincidence

Think that answer is like the Sopranos and AJ, how he was so soft and three is more money to be made being legit today than shaking down drug addicts and gamblers

Yes Can you imagine fuckin AJ taking over this dads business? WTF?!! LOL HAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

And People wonder why there isn't any action anymore.

That's why the Mexican cartels are so strong in their area, due to having thousands of soldiers with not much of hope in their country to look to, same with in some areas of Bolivia, Columbia, Peru, etc. Philly and some areas of Chicago it is the same in the black neighborhoods where you have all these young kids who are children of young moms that have zero hope from their environment and get a gun and rob, sell and murder; its a shame in America you have neighborhoods in Philly, NY, Chicago, wherever that people are doing this as the norm now, these are American citizens and people in our government ignore them and also exploit them for social political and monetary gain and those politicians and grifters are doing so with blood on their hands, its a fkn shame

Lets look at a hypothetical scenario here. A guy with lots of money, and I mean lots of it, offers employment to these kids. He says "I'll pay you a guaranteed salary where you will be able to afford a house, raise a family. Enjoy a nice life so come work for me."

Do these kids take his offer or are they too far gone and not smart enough to accept the opportunity?

100%. That is the painful but God's honest truth. First world governments make minimal efforts to counter crime in impoverished neighborhoods and impoverished countries because they frankly just don't give a shit. Criminals from poor communities are seen as "nuisance", not an outright "problem". To them criminals in those communities are just poor idiots of which 95% have a short life expectancy anyway. So they just let them sell some drugs and kill and mutilate each other. They will bust some gangs once they start making a bit too much money - knowing very well others are right behind the corner to take their place - and "condemn their actions" to save some face, politicians will use what's happening in those neighborhoods as some kind of meme for one of their new campaigns, but none of them will take actual steps or carry through with any plans - long term or short term - to actually eradicate the crime that's happening in those places. The moment all of the violence and open corruption would spill over into "everyday citizen society" you'd see governments changing their tune in the blink of an eye, but as long as it's just the poverty-stricken killing off each other they'll either choose to ignore it or to exploit it when it's the right season to exploit it. It's tragic, because at the end of the day there are also lots of good people that live in those communities or countries that are going through a whole lot of suffering.

Yes. Are so americanized that prefer to make money instead to kill rats because too heat less money. Plus the Mexicans have a lot of psycos that made the dirty work and even if they would flip,know dont know enough to seriously damage the cartel.

No guys,I dont agree with you!
No offence. The USA are so powerful that lost the war in Afghanistan?
The Mexico is fucking big with dozen of big cities.
In a scenario with the US army that are invade Mexico after take the cities along the border the army (fighting street by street,house by house) should fight all along the Mexico and take the strongholds of every cartel and they have tens of thousands of desperate people ready to die and lots of weapons.
And what about the Mexican army?
If they decide to fight against the americans would means more dead soldiers.
After all how many lost the public opinion can accept?
Seriously the US government can use the veto to block the Unite Nation but a war with Mexico would cost a lot in terms of human lives and on a financial level and so many soldiers would have to be committed when they were in Vietnam.
it's not a simple thing, we're not in a Heart of Iron style video game.

With all due respect, but I don't really get the "USA lost the war in Afghanistan" drivel I read everywhere. What so many people don't seem to realize is that the USA decided to retreat themselves because they found it wasn't really worth it anymore. 2,448 American soldiers died while 51,191 Taliban fighters died. Taliban fighters spent most of their time hidden in caves until the Americans decided to retreat. You must ask yourself the question with all those wars the USA supposedly lost - Vietnam, Somalia, Afghanistan, etc... - how much of their military resources did the USA exactly use? If they would've even used about a tenth of the resources they have at their disposal Vietnam, Somalia, North Korea and Afghanistan would've ended up as nothing but scorched earth. That is a fact and I'm not even American.

if I'm not mistaken in Vietnam iwas the congress that prohibited further funds to continue the war and at the peak there were half a million soldiers in Vietnam against the Viet Cong who had retreated into the jungle and the escape from Saigon was similar to the escape from Kabul.
if they could do scorched earth in Vietnam, Afghanistan etc. why didn't they do it?
Ask yourself this.

TKJ, that was well said....and IMO, true.

Well that's actually quite simple; because most Americans were against it. There were always a lot of protests against any of those wars, the public didn't find those wars worthy the cost of any American lives and in a true democracy politicians actually pay mind to the public opinion for the simple reason that they want to gain votes and not lose them. It's different in a country that's ran as a dictatorship (no matter what kind of governmental form the country in case "officially" utilizes) because in that case you can just easily brainwash most of the population and silence the others - but that's not the case in any Western democracy, as flawed as they may seem. Aside from that, wiping another country from the face of the earth will most probably turn your country into a pariah state of which the cost is likely far greater than the cost of "losing face" in a retreat.

Honestly, I always find those kind of "Lololol but the USA lost the war in Afghanistan and Vietnam rofl so they can't be that powerful lulz" comments so embarrassing in how completely oblivious they are. So many people don't seem to have the faintest clue about what the American military actually has at its disposal. Sure a country like Russia or China are capable of nuking the shit out of another country, but the Americans wouldn't even have to use nukes to turn another country into one single gigantic crater. You're free to believe whatever you want, but I know for a fact that in this day and age anyone should still think twice about trying to truly piss off the American military. Because if the vast majority of the American public would actually care and if they would actually feel sure about another country (or countries) being an existential threat to their existence they would be entirely capable of transforming the country in question into nothing but a speck of dust.