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Roy DeMeo #1069030
09/13/23 03:00 PM
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That guy was a psychoooooo

Many people were scared of him and his crew. They made more than 200 murders

From wikipedia:

Ironically, according to Casso, Castellano ordering DeMeo's execution sealed his own fate, as Gotti and DeCicco were planning to kill him, and would do so on December 16, 1985. Casso said they would never have dared to move against Castellano while DeMeo was still alive.

What do ya’ll think about what Casso said ?

Re: Roy DeMeo [Re: Blackmobs] #1069031
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And do ya’ll think Roy DeMeo crew were more fearless and strong than Gregory Scarpa crew ?

Re: Roy DeMeo [Re: Blackmobs] #1069033
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Also can you give a top 5 of the most ruthless crews in cosa nostra history in the US

Re: Roy DeMeo [Re: Blackmobs] #1069099
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Scarpa was dangerous because he was a rat. Demeo and his crew shit on Scarpa and company. Compare rackets and body counts. Nobody would go after Demeo and company but the Orena faction had no problem going after Scarpa. If someone tried to kill Demeo while his daughter and grandkid were in the car with him, it would be catastrophic. Yet, the Orena faction had no problem doing that to Scarpa. At the end it took a lot of planning, double crossing, and a trade from another family to take down Demeo. Scarpa died due to ignorance. At the end of the day, it was people who both men trusted that got them killed. Scarpa with the aids tinged blood and Demeo with Gaggi and the twins. One's son went to prison for the sins of his father and the other's died because he couldn't get over the sins of his father.

Re: Roy DeMeo [Re: Blackmobs] #1069104
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Originally Posted by Blackmobs
That guy was a psychoooooo

Many people were scared of him and his crew. They made more than 200 murders

From wikipedia:

Ironically, according to Casso, Castellano ordering DeMeo's execution sealed his own fate, as Gotti and DeCicco were planning to kill him, and would do so on December 16, 1985. Casso said they would never have dared to move against Castellano while DeMeo was still alive.

What do ya’ll think about what Casso said ?



I don't think Casso was telling the truth because no one outside of DeMeo's crew knew all that he was doing. When Castellano found out what was going on he ordered DeMeo killed. Gotti and Gravano along with others killing Castellano happened to take place at the same time. Castellano possibly wanting Ruggerio dead was Gotti's reason, I still don't understand Gravano and the others being so willing to go along. Power crazy is my guess.


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Re: Roy DeMeo [Re: Blackmobs] #1069105
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People knew what Scarpa was doing (Outside of his being a rat) because he was doing it with the administrations approval. DeMeo was doing his thing in secret.

Re: Roy DeMeo [Re: Blackmobs] #1069110
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I never understood why Demeo wasn't taken out for killing the vacuum kid. That alone should've brought a lot of heat unless those cops were paid off. How long did that case go unsolved? It seems like Nino should've been the one to go after all the heat Demeo was bringing at the end. More proof that big Paul was weak. The twins went to the lucchese family after he was hit. Because nobody in the Gambino family could touch him. I still don't understand why it was given to Casso. And if it were given to Gaggi, why did the twins join the lucchese?

Re: Roy DeMeo [Re: Blackmobs] #1069112
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I think it's fucked up that one died from aids and the other died while carrying a sawed of in a trench coat for the weeks leading up to his death. I don't believe the stories about him being all stoned on blow
. He knew it was coming and couldn't find a way out.

Re: Roy DeMeo [Re: Blackmobs] #1069113
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If you get past the kiddy ghoulish shit, Roy and Company are a fascinating group of guys. They operated the largest auto theft ring in the history of the U.S. and Roy had his nebulous tentacles in many other rackets including loan sharking, embezzlement, drug dealing, pornography production and prostitution and human trafficking. The Gemini Crew was a huge money machine, which is why Paul Castellano gave Roy a long leash even though he personally disliked him.
There's a distinct possibility that Roy knew Greg Scarpa through Sally Pro and the other Profaci bros who were regulars at Phil's Lounge in the Flatlands along with Freddy DiNome, Danny Grillo, Pete LaFroscia along with other assorted characters from both sides of the law in the extensive Canarsie Auto Theft Operation including Paul Vario.
The Bergan Crew had a lot of muscle with the Carnegs, so they probably could hold their own against the Gemini Crew, especially reinforced with the Crews of Sammy Gravano and Frank DeCicco's Crew. Nino Gaggi was the only Capo not to swear fealty to Gotti, and Gotti probably wouldn't have moved on Castellano in 79, when Gaggi was more influential with Castellano.
After the Empire Boulevard Auto theft ring was busted in spring of '80, Gaggi was on the outs with Castellano who was also indicted. When Nino saw Roy talking to Det. Kenny McCabe at Nino's going away party, Nino mentioned it to Castellano who sent DeCicco to reprimand Roy and that's when Roy was determined to be a possible liability that might need to be eliminated, sealing Roy's fate.

Re: Roy DeMeo [Re: Blackmobs] #1069115
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Scarpa and Roy were out of Brooklyn, right? Did they ever cross paths or have any joint ventures? CNoye, you're talking about the time Demeo walked off with the detective to be a dick because he was that cocky and Nino was like what the fuck?

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Bad timing in front of your protector at the wrong time.

Re: Roy DeMeo [Re: Blackmobs] #1069120
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I think it was Larry Mazza on his vladtv interview, said that Roy came to see Scarpa one time because one of Roy’s guys was slapped around by one of Scarpas guys over a gambling debt, and that Roy showed him nothing but respect. Maybe he was even a little afraid from what I remember. Roy paid the debt


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