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Re: montreal mafia war(new list) 2005-
[Re: VitoCahill]
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08/10/23 05:28 PM
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now we get to crux of the biscuit, the waka jawaka, the big swifty (god i love frank zappa). the beginning of the 1st montreal mafia war.
(oct.16 2008-nov.10 2010) -this period covers the timeline of nick sr.'s release from all proj. colisee charges and his eventual murder. in between all the big hits that effectively decapitated the once unified ruling rizzuto crime family. by this point there can be no doubt the family had become divided into 2 factions. the RIZZUTO FACTION (R.F.) and what i will call the DESJARDINS-DIMAULO-DEVITO FACTION (d-d-d from now on). this d-d-d faction were they original instigators of the 1st war and though there first strike did not take place until early 2009 all leaders of this faction had been out on street for the entirety of time nov 2006 on, including devito while being wanted by police. also giuseppe devitos influence did not stop upon his oct 2010 arrest.
mario marabella murdered=dec.4 2008 allied w/ here lies a dispute about where marabellas loyalty lay. some have said he was connected to agostino cuntrera and was his 'right hand man.' there is little to no evidence of this and may have been invented to push a narrative of more rizzuto allies, i dont know. better evidence may show marabella being closer allied with giuseppe colapelle. marabella had also pulled some robbery jobs with devito back in the 90's. needless to say i wont say where he lies in all this. most reports have him owing a large amount of money to the RCF from gambling debts related to a illegal casino operation from the time of proj. colisee. this casino was allegedly being controlled by nick jr. with nicola dimarco and colapelle holding an interest as well as giuseppe sollecito. so it looks like marabellas murder may fall into that murder of opportunity category. he may have been taken out for the debts he owed or was kidnapped and forced to give up the i think $150 000 to rivals.
sam fasulo murdered=jan.16 2009 allied w/ R.F.,alleged also to be a relative of francesco arcadi. ordered by=?,possible D-D-D, red aligned street gangs. committed by=? motive= street level member with territory in mtl east operating a drug network. this same area of territory was also in control of giuseppe devito at this time. same area was also being moved on by red street gangs making it a contested area with fasulo the weaker of the 3 at this time. if fasulo was also a relative of arcadi as some evidence suggests this may have made his murder a first test on the new leadership of R.F.
federico del peschio murdered= aug. 21 2009 allied w/ R.F., nick sr. ordered by= tony magi committed by= ducarme joseph motive= a $1.5 million debt to magi. magi not wanting to pay debt contracted joseph to do the deed. del peschio was long an associate reporting to nick sr. making this hit dual purpose.
nick rizzuto jr. murdered= dec. 29 2009 allied w/ R.F., reporting direct to nick sr. and agostino cuntrera. ordered by= tony magi committed by= ducarme joseph motive= again possibly related to a debt magi owed nick jr. or a falling out over investment in one of there many real estate ventures. also i do not believe magi had the balls to put all this in motion. magi had dealings with desjardins as well in the construction/real estate industry the 2 were not strangers. so although no evidence suggests desjardins or anyone from the D-D-D actually approved said hit, none of them lifted a finger to stop it.
peter christopoulos and jean gaston (in subsequent attempt on ducarme joseph) murdered= mar. 18 2010 allied w/ ducarme joseph at least christopoulos who has been described as his bodyguard. as far as gaston he is only mentioned as the manager of the store where shooting took place and josephs uncle. orderd by= R.F. outside possibility exists this was related to feuds amongst street gangs, but coming as it does fairly close to nick jr. hit i have my doubts. committed by= ? motive= retaliation for murder of nick jr.
paolo renda murdered= may. 20 2010 allied w/ R.F., nick sr. orderd by= D-D-D committed by= ? some evidence suggests devito himself participated in this hit. motive= renda just months released from proj. colisee charges was likely seen as potential leader along with nick sr. and agostino cuntrera for the R.F. renda also was known as the money man for the RCF but more importantly the close circle of rizzuto related families.
agostino cuntrera and liborio sciascia murdered= june. 29 2010 allied w/ R.F. ordered by= D-D-D committed by= giuseppe devito motive= after release of nick sr. cuntrera was the street boss or #2 of this faction. sciascia was his bodyguard. cuntrera would have reported to nobody else but nick sr. and had been doing so for a long time. note: this hit is revealing because at no time after and certainly not before was there a murder of or attempt on any person with the last name caruana or cuntrera in montreal. i can find no proof that any of there many businesses were torched or shot at. same can be said for houses or cars. i take this as very good evidence that despite ongoing claims of a still existent caruana-cuntrera family in montreal if that was the case why no further attacks? i know the caruana-cuntrera were not violent members of the mafia, but agostino it is claimed was a leader in the caruana-cuntrera as well. and no counter attacks after by them which makes sense because from what info i can find they have mostly all been imprisoned or there children operate seemingly legit businesses.
ennio bruni murdered= sept. 29 2010 allied w/ R.F. ordered by= D-D-D committed by= ? motive= one of the last remaining loyal members of the R.F. operating illegal gambling out of laval area. likely ordered to start paying tax to D-D-D or an allied member and upon declining of this was murdered. bruni also had an attempt made on his life nov.24 2009.
nick rizzuto sr. murdered= nov.10 2010 allied w R.F., ordered by= D-D-D committed by= ? many theories here but nothing confirmed. in the scoppa book as of 2019 he claimed that the shooter was still alive. that would rule out salvatore calautti and giuseppe devito if true. media and books quickly placed blame on unknown 'ndrangheta members from toronto pushing that sicilian v. calabrian narrative. as we know now the decimation of the R.F. was being led solely from montreal. at time of murder nick sr. was the #1 leader of this faction.
there we go sorry about the wait liggio, been another messed up week for the old body and brain, hope some of this was what you were looking for.
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Re: montreal mafia war(new list) 2005-
[Re: VitoCahill]
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08/11/23 02:34 PM
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I'm not sure that running legitimate businesses means very much in the world of the Mafia. Look at the Todaros of Buffalo, it was long believed that the Buffalo mob ceased to exist and that the Todaros retired from organized crime and no longer needed to be involved due to the huge success of their pizza business, but here recently it's been discovered that they're still active. Another example is two very wealthy members of the Colombo Family who I won't mention here. One is huge in the yact chartering business and the other in automobiles. Still, when called upon to help in war efforts by Carmine Persico during the 1990s war they couldn't refuse. Another example is Salvatore Avellino of the Luccheses, multimillionaire, if not billionaire. That guy actually bought his way back into the Lucchese Family, totally did not need it. Not saying that's the case with the Caruana-Cuntreras but a lot of times you end up with businessmen that operate with one foot in and one foot out. Canada is weird though. Here we have clearly defined membership, rather it be street gangs, prison gangs, or the Mafia. You know exactly what group they belong, their rank, what oaths they took, etc. In Canada mobsters are hardly even referred to as members, they're referred to as having ties or "allied with." Is there even any solid membership?
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Re: montreal mafia war(new list) 2005-
[Re: VitoCahill]
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08/24/23 02:39 PM
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oct.6 2012-dec.23 2013 -period covering only the time after V.R.'S release from u.s. prison and his death. this is the start of the R.F.'S counter attack on the opposing dimaulo led faction. i know i previously stated its possible this 2nd war began with murder of giuseppe colapelle. however i dont think we can definitively say it was sanctioned by V.R. as he was still incarcerated. the following list will only include those that V.R. was on the street for and likely to have been approved by him or those around him. i will only put R.F. as far as ordered by however as there appears to be disagreement over whom actually ordered some of these. ( i.e. vito himself, stefano sollecito ).
joe dimaulo murdered= nov.4 2012 allied w/ leader of opposing faction, senior member of mafia in mtl, r desjardins, giuseppe devito. ordered by= R.F. committed by= alleged by andrea scoppa that tonino callochia was the shooter. also alleged that callochia was promoted after this. promoted to what or in control of what territory scoppa does not say. motive= dimaulo stayed fully aligned with his brother-in-law throughout 1st war and those close to desjardins. there is no evidence dimaulo tried to step in to resolve ongoing conflict between 2 sides as might have been expected from such a senior, respected mafia member. for his disloyalty and i would think for any of his remaining rackets he was taken out.
emilio cordileone murdered= dec.9 2012 allied w/ moreno gallo by most reports. emilio's father domenico has long been considered an associate of dimaulos. either way not a rizzuto faction member. ordered by= ? or R.F. the question mark will be explained below. committed by= ? motive= could be as easily explained that emilio was allied with moreno gallo. upon gallos deportation emilio lost some protection. there was also media reports at time of murder that this could have been the result of an unpaid drug debt, to whom or for how much was not stated.
domenico facchini murdered= dec. 21 2012 allied w/ devito clan ordered by= ?, R.F. committed by= ? motive= most books and media claim that facchini worked for giuseppe devito at time of murder. i cant disagree but facchini does not appear to be a high ranking member of the devito clan.
gaetan gosselin murdered= jan. 22 2013 allied w/ r. desjardins, dimaulo led faction. ordered by= V.R. committed by= red allied unit 44 crew led by harry mytil. alleged shooter was olivier gay i believe. motive= gosselin was desjardins man on the street while r.d. was imprisoned and going to trial. gosselin would almost certainly worked under and reported direct to joe dimaulo in the overall pecking order on the street. businness both legal and illegal were also most likely a motive.
vincenzo scuderi murdered= feb. 1 2013 allied w/ g. devito, working under nicola dimarco. ordered by= R.F. committed by= same hit team as used on gosselin. motive= being an ally of devito could have been enough at this point.
juan ramon fernandez with fernando pimentel murdered= apr. 9 2013 allied w/ r. desjardins, bagheria cosca working under sergio flamia. ordered by= ?, R.F.,rival bagheria mafia members. committed by= scaduto bros pietro and salvatore with aid of giuseppe carbone. motive= the accepted narrative is that fernandez did not pick a side or rally to vito's defence during 1st mafia war. this would have been hard to do as fernandez was either imrisoned or deported during that time. it has also been stated that calls were made to fernandez to come and meet V.R. on more than one occasion and were declined. another possible theory could be that at the same time the bagheria cosca was not a united family. the scadutos as a family have long had control of this family and wanted to again. sergio flamia the man fernandez worked under was only inducted into family in jan 2012 after a long tenure as muscle for the family. it turns out also that flamia was working as an informant as far back as 2009, before actually publicly flipping october 2013. most prominent members of cosca were arrested may 2013 in proj. argo. so it could be possible the scadutos were tipped off to this and took one of flamias earners out before fernandez had a chance to flip as well. may seem far fetched or not, most reports do claim there was communication between sicily and canada around this time. these calls could have been simply to ask if fernandez was still allied with R.F. carbone ultimately flipped as well but could not give detailed info about the reason for the hit, that proof is with the scaduto bros, and i dont see them turning any time soon. pimentel had only been in bagheria since mar.28 2013 and would only rank as an associate working under fernandez...who was also just an associate.
moreno gallo murdered= nov.10 2013, in mexico. allied w/ leader of his own clan allegedly, had been allied with montagna prior to his 2011 murder. does not appear that gallo continued to lead a clan/cell while hiding in mexico. ordered by= R.F. committed= ? motive= for not staying loyal to rizzuto faction and apparently ordering both rocco and stefano sollecito out of montreal in fall of 2011.
roger valiquette murdered= dec.19 2013 allied w/ R.F. working directly with stefano sollecito and tonino callochia. ordered by= R.F. committed by= marco claudio campellone motive= as stated above he was allied with the R.F. scoppa states in book valiquette was taken out for control of the BOOK and the fact both s. sollecito and callochia owed him large amounts of money. this hit was thought to have been an attack on a desjardins associate originally, however if we are to believe scoppa and that is a big if, valiquette was the one who attempted to hit desjardins in sept 2011.
note: i know i have ref'd the scoppa book alot when doing these lists. i know his info cannot be fully trusted as he was a high level self serving long time career criminal. but 2 well respected dialed in journalist and authors figured it was good enough to publish in a book that is readily available at most major bookstores. felix seguin and eric thibault are very good at what they do and have established themselves throughout all this mayhem as good journalists. i can only assume they hit up there contacts inside the mtl police and other law enforcement to verify most of what scoppa claimed.
more to follow....???
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