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The Bonanno have a neo-nazi associate #1058234
05/01/23 01:59 AM
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Carl Ulzheimer a Bonanno associate from Bronx is a lucky man.

https://www.cosanostranews.com/2018/09/luchese-mobster-pleads-guilty-to-2012.html?m=1

Crea ordered Bruno and alleged Yonkers mobster Paul "Paulie Roast Beef" Cassano to kill Carl Ulzheimer, a Bonanno crime family associate who lived in the Bronx in 2012, according to the Feds.

Specifically, the Feds have alleged that in 2012, "armed members and associates of the Bonanno Family of La Cosa Nostra forced their way into a Bronx social club controlled by the Luchese Family." During the ensuing confrontation, Ulzheimer, a Bonanno associate, "acted in a manner that a leader of the Luchese Family, Steven L. Crea perceived as a personal affront. To avenge this supposed offense, Crea Sr. ordered his son, Steven D. Crea to have the Associate killed." Crea Jr. passed the order to Paul Cassano and Bruno. On a subsequent night, the two traveled to Ulzheimer’s Bronx residence, where Bruno, hefting a pistol, tried to find Ulzheimer and kill him, but failed.

"The dispute between the rival families was then resolved before the murder was carried out."

The fact that an italian crime family have a neo nazi as associate isnt a good thing,for the nazis the italians arent part of the Aryans.

Ulzheimer is also a friend of the aspiring congresswoman for the Bronx Tina Forte.

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Re: The Bonanno have a neo-nazi associate [Re: furio_from_naples] #1058235
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It fits them perfectly. If you only knew how racist some of these guys are lol

Re: The Bonanno have a neo-nazi associate [Re: furio_from_naples] #1058236
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Whoever wrote this piece is clueless.

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The fact that an italian crime family have a neo nazi as associate isnt a good thing,for the nazis the italians arent part of the Aryans.


The original, actual, Nazis allied with Italians before and during WW2 and the fact that this has to be said is in itself a disgrace.

As for the pop-cultural and criminal “aryans” that generated in the American prison system in the 60s, they have done business and protected incarcerated mobster since ever. On the West coast, many members of the AB and their affiliated gangs have been of Italian, Croatian, Greek, and even Jewish heritage. Racial lines are much more radical over there. European equals white. There was a “shot caller” for either the PEN1 or some other white gang who was a half-Croat half-Italian from San Pedro. I don’t remember his name but he wasn’t some blue eyed, blond Viking type.

Identities change a lot in America depending where you go. An “Italian” from the east coast becomes a “white dude” if he goes west enough of the Mississippi or south enough of the Mason Dixie Line. And this is largely exaggerated within the prison system.

Lastly this article seems more like be a smear piece aimed at that congresswoman. How do we know they’re friends? Because they posed in a couple of pics together? Politicians pose with dozens of people they have no clue about any time they attend some social event. Like Trump posing with Merlino or Obama posing with that anti-semite black preacher.

Re: The Bonanno have a neo-nazi associate [Re: furio_from_naples] #1058237
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Originally Posted by LuanKuci
Whoever wrote this piece is clueless.

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The fact that an italian crime family have a neo nazi as associate isnt a good thing,for the nazis the italians arent part of the Aryans.


The original, actual, Nazis allied with Italians before and during WW2 and the fact that this has to be said is in itself a disgrace.

As for the pop-cultural and criminal “aryans” that generated in the American prison system in the 60s, they have done business and protected incarcerated mobster since ever. On the West coast, many members of the AB and their affiliated gangs have been of Italian, Croatian, Greek, and even Jewish heritage. Racial lines are much more radical over there. European equals white. There was a “shot caller” for either the PEN1 or some other white gang who was a half-Croat half-Italian from San Pedro. I don’t remember his name but he wasn’t some blue eyed, blond Viking type.

Identities change a lot in America depending where you go. An “Italian” from the east coast becomes a “white dude” if he goes west enough of the Mississippi or south enough of the Mason Dixie Line. And this is largely exaggerated within the prison system.

Lastly this article seems more like be a smear piece aimed at that congresswoman. How do we know they’re friends? Because they posed in a couple of pics together? Politicians pose with dozens of people they have no clue about any time they attend some social event. Like Trump posing with Merlino or Obama posing with that anti-semite black preacher.


LuanKuci,Hitler allied with Italy because considered Mussolini as a master but he considered as Aryan only the Germans and nordic countries,the neo nazies are another things,the AB had a shot caller that was half jew and have a Star of David on one bicep and a swastika on the other.
Be racist is a thing,have a neo nazi as associate is another.

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Re: The Bonanno have a neo-nazi associate [Re: furio_from_naples] #1058240
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Most Italians consider themselves white. Some of them even have blue eyes and blonde hair. There are those who consider them too "ethnic", but times have changed. Inside the prison system, the AB have always had a close relationship with the American Cosa Nostra. Some LCN members have even gotten swastikas tattooed on them. They love Hitler.

Re: The Bonanno have a neo-nazi associate [Re: furio_from_naples] #1058242
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Some LCN members have even gotten swastikas tattooed on them. They love Hitler.

Really? Can you say a name?

Re: The Bonanno have a neo-nazi associate [Re: furio_from_naples] #1058245
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I just think blacks are so damn racist and entitled, white and italian guys that never really paid attention to race now do. Try walking into a black hood if you are white.

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Re: The Bonanno have a neo-nazi associate [Re: furio_from_naples] #1058253
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So Ed Liebman, who writes as Ed Scarpo on his cosanostranews site is so desperate an seamless he puts up that B.S.

Furio, who believes anything he sees posts it here, and it gets attention. A man named Ulzheimer has a Nazi cross tattoo, that gets stretched out to the Bonannos being Nazis. This is stupid. As for Tine Forte, she ran against AOC and lost due to getting no help from any Republicans.

Re: The Bonanno have a neo-nazi associate [Re: jace] #1058266
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Originally Posted by jace
So Ed Liebman, who writes as Ed Scarpo on his cosanostranews site is so desperate an seamless he puts up that B.S.

Furio, who believes anything he sees posts it here, and it gets attention. A man named Ulzheimer has a Nazi cross tattoo, that gets stretched out to the Bonannos being Nazis. This is stupid. As for Tine Forte, she ran against AOC and lost due to getting no help from any Republicans.


I never said that the Bonannos are nazi,only that have a nazi as associate.

Re: The Bonanno have a neo-nazi associate [Re: ralphie_cifaretto] #1058279
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Originally Posted by ralphie_cifaretto
Most Italians consider themselves white. Some of them even have blue eyes and blonde hair. There are those who consider them too "ethnic", but times have changed. Inside the prison system, the AB have always had a close relationship with the American Cosa Nostra. Some LCN members have even gotten swastikas tattooed on them. They love Hitler.


The AB / LCN relationship in prison has nothing to do with race, it has to do with money.

You can listen to this podcast for free:

https://ganglandwire.com/scarpa-assaults-vic-amuso/

FWIW, I know McNeese, and at least some of the people he mentions. Back to point, McNeese is 100% correct about what AB is about. AB is called white supremist, but in practice it has nothing to do with race. It's all about money, and always has been.


I read a lot of stuff on here, and I generally don't post becuase what I post would be called "street knowledge" and I don't want the drama. I'd encourage you to consider what McNeese says in this podcast about gangs in prison, gangs elsewhere for that matter. When I made book and laid off to both Colombos and Gambinos we had African Americans working right along with us. Are there some racists? Sure. But this said, all the stuff that gets debated, everything the researchers post, made, associate, what the fed's say, what some snitch said, what the fed's need to do in order to get an indictment, what the fed's need to do to get a conviction, what the fed's need to be accurate about, what the fed's can make up, ad infinitium.... All of that is easily broken down into who can earn and how much. Period. Full stop. Nothing prevents any of us from walking into an active social club. Go do that and watch how some relative unknowns are treated with more respect than made guys. It's revealing. Not to me, but you get what I'm saying hopefully.




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Re: The Bonanno have a neo-nazi associate [Re: furio_from_naples] #1058285
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Sorry but back up a minute...how do we know the guy is a Neo Nazi?

If the only basis of that allegation is the Iron Cross tattoo on his chest, I hope you realize that the Iron Cross is a GERMAN symbol rather than a *NAZI* symbol. In fact, it's still in use by the German Wehrmacht today. Just go on the Bundeswehr web site and you can see they still emblazon German military vehicles with the Iron Cross today.

https://www.bundeswehr.de/

Re: The Bonanno have a neo-nazi associate [Re: furio_from_naples] #1058286
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I heard a rumor that AB shot caller Barry "The Baron" Mills was part Jewish. If so, it really is all about color - green.

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Originally Posted by Mikey_Sunset
I heard a rumor that AB shot caller Barry "The Baron" Mills was part Jewish. If so, it really is all about color - green.


Talk about inner conflict. panic In the Jewish religion they go by the mother's heritage, so if his father was a Jew and his mother wasn't, technically he was not Jewish. Still, it's bizarre.

Re: The Bonanno have a neo-nazi associate [Re: eastsideofvan] #1058317
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Originally Posted by eastsideofvan
Sorry but back up a minute...how do we know the guy is a Neo Nazi?

If the only basis of that allegation is the Iron Cross tattoo on his chest, I hope you realize that the Iron Cross is a GERMAN symbol rather than a *NAZI* symbol. In fact, it's still in use by the German Wehrmacht today. Just go on the Bundeswehr web site and you can see they still emblazon German military vehicles with the Iron Cross today.

https://www.bundeswehr.de/



Because if someone use the Iron Cross is a nazi,is parte of the simbol like the swastica.

Re: The Bonanno have a neo-nazi associate [Re: furio_from_naples] #1058354
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The eagle tattoo is also the symbol of present-day Germany. Ulzheimer is unquestionably German. Chances are he choose some odd ways to boast his ancestral pride. Eastofvan is right about the iron cross, the Ukrainian armed forces use it too. I can’t read what his upper chest tattoo says before “Deutschland”. Do we know if he’s ever been linked to an actual white power gang?


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