Two members on this blog don't seem to think so, so I'm asking this entire community: Does the Montreal Mafia still exist? Are they recognized as Mafiosi by other mob families?

Why don't you start with showing us that they are their own official Mafia Family since that's what you're claiming.

They were part of the Cattolica Eraclea family closely linked to the Mafia in the old country, in particular the Cuntrera-Caruana Mafia clan, who came from the same region in Sicily as Rizzuto.

I'm asking for general opinions, I'm not claiming anything on this thread. I just want to know what this blog thinks, yay or nay.

Well you claimed it in another thread so let's talk about it. What makes you say they're a official Mafia Family. Yay and nay doesn't mean shit if you don't provide anything to back it up and if you're claiming some thing like you did the burden of proof is on you so let's hear it

I have recently read the book La Source by Andrew Scoppa and what he describes is not an official Mafia family.

There's no induction and no formal hierarchy.

So let's stop calling it things like the Montreal Mafia or the Rizzuto Clan then.

Thanks Hollander, but you used the word 'were,' I'm talking about the present time. What exactly are they then? If they're not a structure, I suppose if they were in America it would be hard to hit them with RICO then.

And what Hollander said is really only true for a select few people. Domenico Manno was probably apart of the Cattolica Eraclea Family and probably transferred to the Bonannos but he's probably the only one without too much doubt that we could say was definitely apart of it. Nicolo Rizzuto might have been maybe Gerlando Sciascia and Giuseppe LoPresti and Calogero Renda sr

All those people you mentioned are well-documented Mafiosi, quit trying to rewrite history.

Hey dummy why don't you actually listen to what I'm saying. I'll speak really slow for you to understand

Hollander said the Rizzutos were apart of the Cattolica Eraclea Family. He's saying Nicolo Rizzuto was a member of that Family. We do not know that Nicolo Rizzuto was a member of that Family. The only person that we can say without much doubt was a member of the Cattolica Eraclea Family and later became a Bonanno Family member is Domenico Manno.

Others who might have been apart of the Cattolica Eraclea Family and later became Bonanno members are Giuseppe LoPresti Gerlando Sciascia Nicolo Rizzuto and Calogero Renda sr

Hollander was speaking matter of factly when none of that is confirmed.

capisce?

None of this proves there is a official Mafia Family in Montreal or that there has ever been a official Mafia Family in Montreal.


Let me lay out the facts for you.

Montreal has had dozens of if not more Mafia members from many different Families working in the city. They have had American Mafia Family members there and Sicilian Mafia members there. Montreal has had Ndrangheta members and Camorra members there. The only Family that has had a official Mafia crew there is the Bonanno Family. The Bonanno Family is the Mafia Family that most Montreal names we know have belonged to. There has never been a official Mafia Family in Montreal that is known. Whatever the fuck Leonardo Rizzuto and Stefano Sollecito and Vittorio Mirarchi and others are running in Montreal today has never been identified as a Official Mafia Family. None of them have never been identified as official members of any Mafia organization.

Liggio please reread this a couple times before you reply with some stupid shit. The only people trying to rewrite history are the ones who call Vito Rizzuto a Mafia Boss.

I brought this up years ago asking if the Rizzuto's were actually LCN....I remember when Gravano mentioned on his podcast that there's no Montreal family and everyone went bananas.

Well maybe he's not that daft, no induction, no structure, its just loose as fuck and everyone seems to be doing their own thing.

Maybe they kept some traditional structure around 2004, but that seems to be long gone.

When I first read this point a view if the Rizzuto were a mafia on the other post, I was like Mafia101 is bugging.
But when you think more and more about it, he could be on something, and he could be right.
Before the Violi’s they were part of the Bonanno, and were part of Cosa Nostra.
But after …. We really don’t know if the Rizzuto’s are official Cosa Nostra or simply an Italian organized crime group….
The media called them Mafia…but I think its really people who are active in the lifestyle that could answer.

In 2023, is Leonardo is a made guy ? And are is guys part of Cosa Nostra ? Or are they just wealthy italian gangsters ?

I like this post, and can wait to read all of youre answers…

Because the question is really a good one

There's no mafia family in Montreal, but there are groups that have leaders and some of those leaders are members of known organizations.

He is not. They are just wealthy Italian gangsters.

I was saying something similar on another thread
I get this info from a book and I read it so long ago I am probably only remembering about 70% correct.

When Massino sent Vitale to Canada and he offered Vito Rizzutto the position of CAPO of the Canada Crew.

He refused it and said my father deserves it.

I read no too long ago it ended up being pat on to Joe Renda at some point in time, he is missing and presumed dead.

Vitale was also trying to find out everything about C.A. how many buttons they had, how big the crew was and V.R.’s answer was:

We don’t have a leader there are 6 of us we are all equal among eachother.
Later on surveillance of their head quarters you can see if video SIX of them sitting around the table and dividing the money equally among the 6.

That is why I formed my opinion that they were not acting in a traditional American Cosa Nostra way.
More so like a drug cartel.

I wouldn’t say they are not a mafia family either.
What are they a Mexican Drug Cartel, LOL NO

I just think they had so much money coming in and wielded so much power that they just did whatever the fuck they wanted for the most part.

We know that Vito had strong ties to families in Italy.

I am thinking the started out as American LCN, moved away from that and ended being more so like an Italian family italy.

So many different families in Italy and for the most part they do what they want.
Nobody tells a boss of an Italian mafia family that when he inducts someone he has to be holding a gun for example.

Just my Cents

Would like to have the opinions of @NYMafia @TheKillingJoke and @furio_from_naples
For this question, always like to read their opinions on the mob.

Except the Ndrangheta groups all over the world.

We could ask ourself the same question for many other sicilian crime group ?
Is the Sicilians crime group in Australia is part of the Mafia or Cosa Nostra ? For example.

Also, if the Rizzuto are not Mafia… are the Violi in Hamilton and there group are the only Cosa Nostra group in Canada ?

In 2004 they were apart of the Bonanno Family still.



I'm not on to something I am right. I'm being a bit of a dick about this but it's because from at least the 1950s when Carmine Galante arrived all the way to the 2000s with Vito Rizzuto they were apart of the Bonanno Family without question.

Anyone arguing that they weren't have a couple extra chromosomes and don't know what they're talking about. But I do invite any of them to present their case.

Whatever the fuck Leonardo Rizzuto Stefano Sollecito and all the others are running now is a mystery to what they actually are. Anyone saying anything else is making shit up.



Who exactly are you referring to and what organizations?

'Ndrangheta, LCN

Things were always done differently in Canada.
Even the Buffalo crews were not structured as traditional LCN, crews.

Going back to Massino sending Vitale to find out how many made men they have.
So they were a crew of the Bonanno’a that had authority to induct new members, order murders with out the bosses approval.

That’s not TRADITIONAL.

So I think it safe to say there were never any traditional LCN crews in Canada, from the beginning.

Sammy the Bull is really dumb.

He def was never someone that knew much about the historical origins of LCN in America let alone abroad. He doesn’t know a lot about a lot things LCN, so I would not point to that as anything.

Just listen to his podcast and the way he tells stories you will see what I mean.
That does not take away from the fact that his time on the street he was a stone killer and he yielded a lot of power and influence.

He just was never groomed to be in the admin, he stepped into the position we all know how and why.

Okay.. who?

Well, Vito Rizzuto was a member of the Bonanno family for example. The Calabrians had some 'Ndrangheta members like Dominico Scarfo

Joe Massino didn't send Sal Vitale up there to find out how many guys they had.

That's not true. What isn't traditional about the crews in Montreal and the Hamilton area? They were a group of Mafia Associates and Members ran by a Mafia Captain. Where did you read Montreal could order their own murders? Gerlando Sciascia asked permission to kill Giuseppe LoPresti even though Sal Vitale and Anthony Spero got the impression it already happened. What inductions did they hold on their own? A remote crew being allowed to see to their own affairs to a certain extent isn't non traditional either. Anthony Arilotta talks about of Al Bruno being like the Boss of Springfield but they were still a Genovese crew.

You guys are making stuff out of nothing.

Vito Rizzuto has been dead for 10 years and Dominic Scarfo isn't a leader of anything and his status as a Ndrangheta member is up for debate.

I didn't say all of them were leaders, but Mirarchi has been named as a member of the 'Ndrangheta. He might be considered a leader.

We don't know much about what happened to the Bonanno connection after Vito's death. Some say there wasn't much of a connection prior to his death. It will be interesting to see my friend. We gotta be patient.

Much of what is going on today is up for debate obviously, but some parts of history aren't.

There is no mafia in Montreal, but historically there have been people there who've been members of certain organizations.

You literally did say they're leaders Vittorio Mirarchi has been called a Ndrangheta member by media but no one can tell us what Ndrangheta clan he belongs to. His Ndrangheta status is in doubt.

Finding out how many guys was at least one of their reasons, according to Sal Vitale. Vitale's testimony quoted directly From "Mafia Inc": (As a special bonus I am also bolding the part that you claimed in a previous post I had made up) (Mafia101's favourite emoticon)

“At some point after the murder of George, did you go to Canada?”

“Yes.”

“Why did you go to Canada?”

“Joe Massino wanted me to go up there to speak to Vito [Rizzuto], to get what was going on, to familiarize ourselves [with] what was going on in Canada now that George was dead.”

“Did you go alone?” Andres asked.

“No, I went with Anthony Urso,” Vitale replied. Urso had just been named acting consigliere for the Bonanno family.

“When you were up there, did you attempt to put somebody in George’s place with respect to his position in the Bonanno family [that of captain responsible for the Montreal crew]?”

“I probed the area; who did they respect up there. Who is the man up there. Vito said: ‘We are all brothers. We are all equals.’ First, he was very annoyed that no one told him about George. I don’t think he believed that it was a drug deal gone astray.”

“What else did you discuss with Vito when you were in Canada?”

“How many individuals—how many made men are in Canada. He told me nineteen.”

“Do you know who paid for the trip to Canada?” the prosecutor asked.

“The Bonanno family paid for it … I laid out the money for the hotel, for the food, for me and Tony [Urso], and when I got back, Joe [Massino] said, ‘How much did you lay out?’ and I said, ‘Nine hundred.’ He gave me the nine hundred.”

The Bonanno family wanted to make Vito Rizzuto captain in Gerlando Sciascia’s stead. Vitale insisted, but Vito refused the promotion and suggested his father. There was no doubt that the murder of George from Canada had upset him: they were both from Cattolica Eraclea originally, they got along well, and they had worked together to build a new heroin pipeline; furthermore, no one had consulted Vito before executing his friend. And Vito saw no benefit in taking Gerlando Sciascia’s place. For one thing, the position would have required regular travel to New York, which would have been difficult, since he knew he could not cross the U.S. border without risking arrest.

Several members of the Montreal Mafia attended the meeting with the two New York envoys, Vitale and Urso. Vito purposely left an empty chair at the table—the one that should have been occupied by Gerlando Sciascia. He asked the Bonanno captain and consigliere many questions about the circumstances of Sciascia’s murder. He was clearly furious and didn’t believe for one moment that his friend had been killed because of a botched drug transaction. After the meeting broke up, Urso accompanied Vito Rizzuto to some choice Montreal bars and restaurants. Another participant in the meeting, Joe Di Maulo, left with Vitale. Good-Looking Sal thought his number was up: he was sure he was being led into a trap and would be taken out. Instead, Di Maulo took him to meet some other members of the Montreal crew.

Sorry for the confusion. I was merely trying to show that there is/was an 'Ndrangheta/LCN presence in Montreal and not some type of structured "mafia" family calling the shots. Mirarchi's status is in doubt, I agree. I am however leaning towards believing he is a member of the 'Ndrangheta, simply because he has been named as a member by informants and a few reputable news outlets who have pretty good LE sources.

There is from a Canadian documentary.



Rizzuto Network
David Barbero
Lortis Cavalieri
Gino Constantine
Carmelo Cannestraro
Liborio Cuntrera
Marco Pizzi
Francesco Sollecito
Giuseppe Sollecito
Mario Sollecito
Mario Spagnolo
Vincenzo Spagnolo
Vito Salvaggio
Steven Di Paola
Steve Vogl
Antonio Cinquino
Leonardro Rizzuto
Stefano Sollecito
Domenico Salerno

Cafe Bellerose
Stefano Broccoli
Michael Sciaraffa
Rocco Sollecito Jr.
Lorenzo Giordano Jr.
Fabio Chimenti
Marco Landuci
Lucio Di Paola
Carlo Sciaraffa
Tony Tallarita
Emanuele Ragusa
Giancarlo Pesce
Stello Tutino

Clan Violi
Domenico Violi
Giuseppe Violi

The Calabrians
Franco Albannese
Antonio Gallo
Moreno Gallo Jr.
Antonio Mucci
Carmine Vanneli

Clan Annunziata
Luigi Annunziata
Maurizio Annunziata
FNU Annunziata

Clan Cazzetta
Salvatore Cazzetta
Salvatore Brunetti

Clan Focarazzo
Giuseppe Focarazzo
Anthony Abate
Louis Brissette
Patrizio Ruso
Frederic Lavie

Clan Ville Lasale
Giuseppe Arcorao
Pietro Dadamo
Pietro Monte

Clan Mirarchi
Vito Mirarchi
Alessandro Sucapane
Reynald Desjardins (IP)
Jonathan Mignaca
Calogero Milioto
+ Multiple names I am unable to read

Steve Sport Par
Ciro Di Mauro
+ Multiple names I am unable tor read