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Why was Nicolo Rizzuto Jr Killed? #1054650
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Four questions: Why was Nicolo Rizzuto Jr killed? Who killed him? Who had him killed? And finally, was there any retribution?

Re: Why was Nicolo Rizzuto Jr Killed? [Re: Liggio] #1054667
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/mont...oseph-fatally-shot-in-montreal-1.2725963


This was the suspected gunman. They caught up to him a couple of years after Nick Jr's murder. From what I've read on here, it's suspected that Tony Magi owed him money and made his move to eliminate his debt with Vito Sr. in prison and Nick Jr. vulnerable because of it. They eventually caught up to him too after several attempts.

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Re: Why was Nicolo Rizzuto Jr Killed? [Re: Liggio] #1054671
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Originally Posted by Liggio
Four questions: Why was Nicolo Rizzuto Jr killed? Who killed him? Who had him killed? And finally, was there any retribution?


Tony Magi owed him money

Ducarme Joseph killed him

There's two stories. One is Tony Magi has Ducarme Joseph do it because of the debts he owed Nicky Jr. The other story is Ducarme Joseph did it on his own to have Tony Magi indebted to him.

Ducarme Joseph was killed in 2014. A previous attempt to kill him took place in 2010. Tony Magi was killed in 2019.

Re: Why was Nicolo Rizzuto Jr Killed? [Re: Liggio] #1054691
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probably sal montagna was behind the murder

Re: Why was Nicolo Rizzuto Jr Killed? [Re: Liggio] #1054725
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According to Andrew Scoppa, those responsible were Tony Magi and Ducarme Joseph.

Re: Why was Nicolo Rizzuto Jr Killed? [Re: Liggio] #1054726
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A few months after his murder two people died in a hail of bullets in a ritzy boutique called FlawNego owned by Ducarme Joseph.


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Re: Why was Nicolo Rizzuto Jr Killed? [Re: Liggio] #1054793
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How could it be possible that a business man would kill the son of one of the most powerful men on earth at the time.

Vito Sr. wasn’t in jail for life and the grandfather was still alive and well acting as a proxy for his son.
Killing Vito jr did NOT wipe away his debt.

So the motive does not make any sense.

Now a dumb mother fucking,
Pants are Sagging, Braided Hair, Gang Member/Leader them guys will kill anyone for a few dollars.

I do mean ANYONE.


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Re: Why was Nicolo Rizzuto Jr Killed? [Re: BensonHURST] #1054794
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Originally Posted by BensonHURST
How could it be possible that a business man would kill the son of one of the most powerful men on earth at the time.

Vito Sr. wasn’t in jail for life and the grandfather was still alive and well acting as a proxy for his son.
Killing Vito jr did NOT wipe away his debt.

So the motive does not make any sense.

Now a dumb mother fucking,
Pants are Sagging, Braided Hair, Gang Member/Leader them guys will kill anyone for a few dollars.

I do mean ANYONE.



That the sicilian way! Vendetta Trasversale! If you can't kill a person,kill his kin.

Re: Why was Nicolo Rizzuto Jr Killed? [Re: BensonHURST] #1054799
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Originally Posted by BensonHURST
How could it be possible that a business man would kill the son of one of the most powerful men on earth at the time.

Vito Sr. wasn’t in jail for life and the grandfather was still alive and well acting as a proxy for his son.
Killing Vito jr did NOT wipe away his debt.

So the motive does not make any sense.

Now a dumb mother fucking,
Pants are Sagging, Braided Hair, Gang Member/Leader them guys will kill anyone for a few dollars.

I do mean ANYONE.


The motive makes perfect sense. Tony Magi owed a lot of money to them. If you read what I said the 2nd story of what happened makes the most sense that Ducarme Joseph did it on his own to have Tony Magi indebted to him.

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Re: Why was Nicolo Rizzuto Jr Killed? [Re: Liggio] #1054800
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And Ducarme Joseph wasn't just anyone. At the time he was definitely one of the more noteworthy gang bosses in Canada.
Haitians already had a ton of pull in the Montreal drug trade and they were looking to expand their operations. It makes perfect sense they were out to have a construction magnate like Magi indebted to them.

Re: Why was Nicolo Rizzuto Jr Killed? [Re: Liggio] #1054823
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Vendetta- all day long yes.

Gang-member- yes they will try to kill any white-boy for a few bucks.
Their own mothers for a few bucks more.

Makes-sense.

An associate of the Rizzutto family kill the son, NAH, it does not squash the debt.

So if the motive was to squash the debt, that plan does NOT accomplish that.

What would happen is the guy that did or ordered the killing will his/themselves just get killed when the father either A. Figured it out, B. Came home from jail:

I.E. in the 1960’s I owed $250K, to Joe Bonanno the boss, Joe Bonnano gets pinched, he is in jail for 10 years.

So what I do now because I don’t want to pay,
the debt I go and kill Bill Bonanno, who at the time is acting boss for his father.

What fate lies ahead for me?
Will my debt die with Bill Bonnano?

Re: Why was Nicolo Rizzuto Jr Killed? [Re: chin_gigante] #1054825
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Originally Posted by chin_gigante
According to Andrew Scoppa, those responsible were Tony Magi and Ducarme Joseph.


this does not justify all the subsequent murders

Re: Why was Nicolo Rizzuto Jr Killed? [Re: m2w] #1054826
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Originally Posted by m2w
Originally Posted by chin_gigante
According to Andrew Scoppa, those responsible were Tony Magi and Ducarme Joseph.


this does not justify all the subsequent murders



Vito take the troops united with him out and a weak leadership everyone wanted to expand so started the war.

Re: Why was Nicolo Rizzuto Jr Killed? [Re: Liggio] #1054828
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Yes Furio.

Several family members and associates of Vito Rizzuto died or disappeared while he was incarcerated:

His associate Federico del Peschio was killed behind La Cantina restaurant in Ahuntsic on August 21, 2009[44]
His eldest son, Nicolo Rizzuto Jr., was gunned down on December 28, 2009, in the Notre-Dame-de-Grâce borough of Montreal[9][10]
His brother-in-law and consigliere Paolo Renda disappeared on May 20, 2010, also in Montreal, and is believed to be dead[11]
His associate Agostino Cuntrera was executed in broad daylight on June 29, 2010 in the Saint-Leonard borough of Montreal[45]
His father, notorious crime boss Nicolo Rizzuto, was killed by a sniper through his kitchen window on November 10, 2010, at the age of 86[46]


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Re: Why was Nicolo Rizzuto Jr Killed? [Re: furio_from_naples] #1054829
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Originally Posted by furio_from_naples
Originally Posted by m2w
Originally Posted by chin_gigante
According to Andrew Scoppa, those responsible were Tony Magi and Ducarme Joseph.


this does not justify all the subsequent murders



Vito take the troops united with him out and a weak leadership everyone wanted to expand so started the war.


yes, i just don't believe Magi was behind Nick jr. murder, there is somebody else

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what would happen is the guy that did or ordered the killing will his/themselves just get killed when the father either A. Figured it out, B. Came home from jail:



That's exactly what happened both were killed.

Re: Why was Nicolo Rizzuto Jr Killed? [Re: m2w] #1054841
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Originally Posted by m2w
Originally Posted by chin_gigante
According to Andrew Scoppa, those responsible were Tony Magi and Ducarme Joseph.


this does not justify all the subsequent murders



Which subsequent murders are you referring to? Joseph, Magi, and the guys who got killed in the attempt on Joseph's life?

Scoppa said the murders of Del Peschio and Nick Rizzuto Jr were not carried out by the same group that was responsible for the 2010 murders (Paolo Renda's disappearance, the killings of Agostino Cuntrera and Nicolo Rizzuto). The latter murders were carried out by the Montagna-Desjardins-Di Maulo group.


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