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Re: Leonardo Rizzuto (Montreal) has been shot at [Re: Mafia101] #1055176
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Originally Posted by Mafia101
Yes they're being investigated for drug trafficking but the articles don't say any of them were arrested except for Martin robert. They actually say no arrests are expected unless the searches come up with something.



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Originally Posted by Giacalone
Is Desjardins' son considered a low level player? That's almost hard to believe if he's chosen that life


Mathieu Desjardins in 2016.

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In the 2000s, a war broke out again between the Sicilian and Calabrian factions of the Cotroni, seeing the victory of the former in 2004 due to the death of Frank Cotroni . It is believed that after other wars erupted, a truce was signed between Sicilians and Calabrians in 2012 , after the release of Vito Rizzuto , with the blessing of Cosa Nostra and 'Ndrangheta .


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Re: Leonardo Rizzuto (Montreal) has been shot at [Re: Hollander] #1055236
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Originally Posted by Hollander
In the 2000s, a war broke out again between the Sicilian and Calabrian factions of the Cotroni, seeing the victory of the former in 2004 due to the death of Frank Cotroni . It is believed that after other wars erupted, a truce was signed between Sicilians and Calabrians in 2012 , after the release of Vito Rizzuto , with the blessing of Cosa Nostra and 'Ndrangheta .


There wasn't a war in the early 2000s leading up to to Frank Cotroni's death, so I don't know what you're referencing. There were a few murders, like the Gervasis, but that wasn't a Sicilian vs Calabrian conflict. The war between the Montagna-Desjardins-Di Maulo group didn't really start until 2010, and the violence certainly didn't stop when Rizzuto came home in 2012. There was a series of retaliatory murders all through 2013. Then there was a second conflict stretching from 2016 to 2019 that was the Scoppa brothers and Mirarchi vs the Rizzutos (which some have classed as a 'Sicilians vs Calabrians' conflict). Now it seems like another conflict between Del Balso and the Rizzutos.

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I agree I couldn't find any references and it doesn't make sense, Vito Rizzuto was released from prison on October 5, 2012 and would have committed at least 6 murders continuing the war that began when he was still in prison.


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As I understood it, Vito went to talk to Ndrangheta in Toronto when he came out and they told him to go forward to clean up and attack whoever He thought was involved.

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Originally Posted by Hollander
I agree I couldn't find any references and it doesn't make sense, Vito Rizzuto was released from prison on October 5, 2012 and would have committed at least 6 murders continuing the war that began when he was still in prison.

If you agree why did you post it?lol

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Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by Giacalone
Is Desjardins' son considered a low level player? That's almost hard to believe if he's chosen that life


Mathieu Desjardins in 2016.

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Haha he certainly has the look


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Had to be a fool, had to throw it all away
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Originally Posted by enricopc
As I understood it, Vito went to talk to Ndrangheta in Toronto when he came out and they told him to go forward to clean up and attack whoever He thought was involved.



wasn't that like his first stop, like I heard rumors he went right to Toronto after his release, even before he went home

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As I understood it, Vito went to talk to Ndrangheta in Toronto when he came out and they told him to go forward to clean up and attack whoever He thought was involved.



wasn't that like his first stop, like I heard rumors he went right to Toronto after his release, even before he went home


Yes he is believed to have huddled with supporters in the GTA before he went back to Montreal.


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I just cannot wrap my head around Leonardo Rizzutto other than he is cut from the same cloth of dad .

If his family has 1/100th of the money they say he had.

You live in Canada
Where anybody and everybody can be touched.
Very easily

Just take the money to where ever the FHU_K
Live on a beach.

His brothers death has been avenged

this was near miss a couple inches in any direction he would be with his brother, father and granfather.

The true way to win this game is to get out when you are near or at the top.
This is as close as he is going to get top the top.

And he is not from the old generation where all he and they knew was cosa nostra
His father's family was moreso run like a drug cartel than a cosa nostra family.

This man is a college educated attorney
He did not come from the Slums of Sicily having to rob to feed his family.

he is not an old school captain that has been in cosa nostra for 30, 40 years and knows nothing else.

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You can say that it's run like a drug cartel all you want, but the bottom line is that it's very much a Cosa Nostra family.

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Francesco Del Balso is not mentioned in the first article to which I've linked below.

Police execute more search warrants in probe targeting Hells Angels
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...warrants-in-probe-targeting-hells-angels

Perquisitions visant des Hells Angels influents
La police poursuit son supplice de la goutte d’eau
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...suit-son-supplice-de-la-goutte-d-eau.php

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Originally Posted by Liggio
You can say that it's run like a drug cartel all you want, but the bottom line is that it's very much a Cosa Nostra family.


How can you say that?
As I sad they had no boss among themselves or other positions.

So it’s an LCN family without the hierarchy?
Were they making new members?

They were whacking up the money evenly 1/6th each.

1. No official boss
2. No admin
3. All treated as equal
4. Didn’t follow any other American LCN traditions.
5. Broke away from their traditional American LCN family
6. I have not heard them making any one guy

What about the above is LCN?

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It's still called a Mafia family, they're referred to as the Montreal Mafia or the Rizzuto Clan, not the Rizzuto cartel. Far as I'm concerned, they're Mafia. Now, I've read that they operate more like a Mafia clan from Sicily than an LCN or American Mafia family, that argument makes more sense. And I'm not saying that they don't operate somewhat like a drug cartel, but still, they're still part of the Mafia as far as I'm concerned.

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You can call them whatever you want but that doesn't make it so. We don't know what Montreal is right now there's been no recognition as LCN or Ndrangheta from other Families. For all we know they're just italian criminals who are the kids of former Bonanno and Ndrangheta members.

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Are we seriously going to sit here and argue that the Italian criminal element in Montreal isn't an official Mafia family? Like really? No more Mafia in Montreal? How can you guys say that with a straight face?

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Are you or anyone seriously going to sit here and pretend to know Montreal is officially their own Mafia Family recognized by other Mafia Families? Like really?lol

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as stated on other thread they are indeed a mafia family. i would like to see the other families go up and tell said members in montreal that they arent legit. the very fact that outside groups have not really been a part of these internal wars as good proof other families do indeed recognize the authority and territory of those in charge of montreal.
and to the point of the rizzutos being a drug cartel they would have been part of a cartel like setup along with other groups in and out of the city. this setup indeed did exist in 1999 up to about 2004.

the rizzuto crime family at this time being a united fully functioning family with its own administration and different cells/crews operating across quebec and ontario. in this case we had...

1.cocaine supplier from colombia ( in this period one of these were the munoz munera twins.)
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2.the rizzuto crime family (with members dealing direct to import cocaine.)
-working with hells angels nomad chapter to fix street price of kg of cocaine.
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3.hells angels (mostly the nomads chapter led by mom boucher and walter stadnick.)
-nomads importing both cocaine and hashish at massive levels.
-using rockers puppet club for street level sales.
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4.west end gang-matticks faction (in charge of getting drugs off ships and out of port of mtl.)

-in this scenario we have 4 groups working in concert to control top to bottom drug sales on the streets of montreal and to some extent across parts of canada. in this regard for this point in time i would call the rizzutos part of a cartel with these groups.

the 2015 arrests in project magot/mastiff revealed somewhat the same setup although without the identity of the overall cocaine supplier. however it still showed the rizzuto/sollecito faction now working to control drug sales across city with help from hells angels montreal chapter and woolley aligned street gangs.

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The three Montreal organizations (West End Gang, Montreal Mafia, Hells Angels) make up the "Consortium" . The Haitians and streetgangs run the street level stuff and do a lot of the contract hits.

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Originally Posted by BensonHURST
I just cannot wrap my head around Leonardo Rizzutto other than he is cut from the same cloth of dad .


he is not an old school captain that has been in cosa nostra for 30, 40 years and knows nothing else.



And isn't he an educated lawyer too? He could just defend mob guys and be wealthy


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Originally Posted by azguy


Originally Posted by BensonHURST
I just cannot wrap my head around Leonardo Rizzutto other than he is cut from the same cloth of dad .


he is not an old school captain that has been in cosa nostra for 30, 40 years and knows nothing else.



And isn't he an educated lawyer too? He could just defend mob guys and be wealthy


That too
How about moving away with your wife kids and just enjoying life on an island
With your GABILLION dollars you have from your father and grandfather.

Or if he isn’t married just banging hot girls 2-3 at a time while jet setting around the world.

What’s it all for? your grandfather, father, brother uncle all lost their lives to this thing, get out just have fun.

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Originally Posted by Hollander
The three Montreal organizations (West End Gang, Montreal Mafia, Hells Angels) make up the "Consortium" . The Haitians and streetgangs run the street level stuff and do a lot of the contract hits.


Is the West End Gang even active anymore? That group seems like they've been dead as a doornail for a long long time.

From my point of view - from the outside looking in - it seems like the entire Montreal underworld is ran by the Italians, the French bikers and the Haitian street gangs. The bikers seem to have a lot of pull at the port nowadays.

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Murders, betrayals, reprisals: we summarize the history of the Montreal mafia

Attempted murder, reprisals, treason, a bounty on the head, flight: spectacular events involving influential members of the Montreal mafia have multiplied in recent weeks, raising fears of a new power war in the metropolis. A look back at the turbulent history of the Italian underworld in Montreal.

https://www.24heures.ca/2023/04/04/...esume-lhistoire-de-la-mafia-montrealaise


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i'm sure there still exists import groups of french/irish extraction who the media will claim are west end gang still operating. the west end gang name has always been a catch all term used to describe OC groups not affiliated with hells angels or mafia. the matticks faction/cell does indeed seem inactive for the last little while.

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Originally Posted by VitoCahill
i'm sure there still exists import groups of french/irish extraction who the media will claim are west end gang still operating. the west end gang name has always been a catch all term used to describe OC groups not affiliated with hells angels or mafia. the matticks faction/cell does indeed seem inactive for the last little while.


Raymond Desfossés was released in 2018.


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Originally Posted by azguy


Originally Posted by BensonHURST
I just cannot wrap my head around Leonardo Rizzutto other than he is cut from the same cloth of dad .


he is not an old school captain that has been in cosa nostra for 30, 40 years and knows nothing else.



And isn't he an educated lawyer too? He could just defend mob guys and be wealthy


I don't know if he is still a member of the Quebec bar, his sister Bettina Rizzuto is also a lawyer. They worked for Loris Cavaliere the longtime lawyer for the family. In his office they held meetings.


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Originally Posted by Scalish
Sollecito is shitting himself right now believe me. If he makes it through the summer I will be surprised. Everyone is sick and tired of these guys believe me.



We got to wait and see what happen in the future.

I remember people were saying the same thing when Vito Rizzuto got out from ADX and coming to Canada.
They were saying he was done, and his family was over.
And now in 2023, we are still talking about the Rizzuto’s.

So we must wait and see. Maybe they will come out on top again, or maybe it will be there last war.



I know this is an older post that I am responding to however, Vito was in ADX Supermax wow the toughest prison in America, he only got 10 years for 3 murders, that has to be one of the best plea deals ever.

I know guys that ratted for a few bodies and got 10 year sentences or close to it.

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