In the movie "A Bronx Tale" I'm sure all you guys remember the scene that the bikers come into the mob controlled neighborhood and go into the bar and get loud and wild, and also very disrespectful. The guys then proceed to beat the shit out of the bikers and telling them never to show their faces again. Back then the mob hated bikers just as much as blacks.

So why the change in heart when it comes to Bikers? Why do they conduct business with them now and accept that in todays day and age?

Where do you see the Mob cooperating with Bikers ?

As far as I know, there's a big alliance in Montreal with the Hell's Angels and some kind of connection in Philly with the Pagans but that's about it.

Probably since the street power of the bikers among white criminals eclipsed that of the mob.

Make no mistake, their fashion sense may not be up to your taste, but the sense of money making some of these guys have is way above average. You may think they look like thuggish white trash, but they're savvy enough to be a significant force. Drugs, gambling, loansharking, prostitution, weapon trafficking, fencing...they have their fingers in all sorts of pies. And whereas the mob these days has the reputation to shy away from violence, the bikers still have the notoriety for using brute force when necessary - even if biker violence in reality is actually sporadic nowadays.

From my limited view , organized crime elements used a Hells Angeles chapter to intimidate snd collect debts

Plenty may have ridden motorcycles, but neither biker clubs nor the mafia would accept deal membership. The Bronx Tale was fiction mixed with a few allegedly true stories. In the movie they had no problem with the men being bikers., they had a problem with them coming in and disrespecting everyone.

Membership? Not that I know of. But to be used as muscle? Absolutely

I saw a photo of biker from New England,he is italian and have a tattoo with the word omertà on his head.
30 y ago would be a wiseguy,now is shot caller in his biker club.

There plenty of italians in biker club but on this days they wouldn't change his bikes for the mob.

I am sure some bikers and mob guys must know each other from jail.I don't see why the mob would have an issue with bike clubs. Most of the bikers in those clubs keep their mouths shut, I think they have less informants than the mob.

Well it's a movie for one. That was supposed to be 1967. Everyone hated bikers back then. Plenty still do. Generally speaking those guys were pretty old for that period. Made it more fakey to me.

Not all hate the bikers. The mob havent the straight of the old times so must deal with bikers especially the small families.
Scarfo sr must repay the Pagans after a drunken Sal Merlino punched a biker and broke his bike;the Outfit have ties with the Outlaws mc same thing for the Detroit family or the Rizzuto in Montreal.
The bikers dont fear the prison and are more happy to use the violence and have a large and young recruitment pool. Now many that 20-30 would choose the mob now riding a bike.

I agree. Back in those days most bikers if not all were White and in prison they would stay together due to race. I don't think there were ever any conflicts on the outside, aside from the Bronx Tale movie.

Those are a couple of random things from the last 40+ years all over north America. I think every instance, good or bad, is pretty much a one off. There is no real guideline. It's just whatever, wherever, for however long.

"Bikers" can be wildly different from one guy to the next.

I saw a story that the first biker gangs were WW2 veterans who banded together and grew in numbers. How much truth to that would be interesting.

Just found this:


https://www.history.com/news/motorcycle-gangs-origins-wwii-veterans

Nobody here cares, but the below paragraph, to my knowledge, is misleading. The first "biker" jackets were made by Schott in the late 1920's. They were based on fighter pilot jackets. Schott is still I business in NYC.

The fashion style of choice for these bikers, and for future generations, originated with the flight jackets of returning WWII airmen. Resilient wind- and rain-resistant leather, which could keep a rider warm and dry in extreme weather, became a natural choice for many motorcyclists.

The modern one percenters have also evolved over the years in particular the Hells Angels.

I notice some mafia families have started to accept african americans as members. When the fuck did this start happening?

When Dr. Dre released The Chronic, the five families inducted over 800 African Americans from Harlem

lol

The Gambinos inducted Giancarlo Esposito in their crew in L.A.

Since the Moors conquered Sicily.

https://youtu.be/Jsh4SvPdfl8

So which family did you end up joining?

That has to be the dumbest shit Ive ever read in my fucking life. You actually believe LCN has black members? Haha

almost all mafia families in ontario and quebec work hand in hand with hells angels or other outlaw mcs and have for decades this is very common.
proj magot/mastiff in 2015 in mtl a good example. an alliance between rizzutos/HA/woolley led street gangs. this alliance was setup during time that VITO RIZZUTO was still alive and continued un abated after his death.
there was a large gambling arrest in 2019 proj hobart/sindicato involving both the figliomeni 'ndrine and hells angels that had been ongoing since 2013.
the violi bros out of hamilton have connections to the outlaws in southern ontario as does the buffalo family through national outlaws president john ermin.

the u.s mafia families would be wise to take note of this. this is how they may continue to function and operate. the mafia is not the #1 OC group anymore and havent been for awhile. working with other groups is one way to continue to hold territory and make money which unless i'm wrong is the point of being a criminal no?

the mafia in montreal and toronto know this well. the mafias in these cities are vastly outnumbered by just the hells angels let alone other outlaw mc groups its not even close. both groups have direct connections to cocaine in source countries both groups control gambling,extortion,loansharking etc.