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'Lord of War' Viktor Bout #1037862
07/28/22 12:39 PM
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Real “Lord of War” back from the shadows as pawn in international prisoner swap between US and Russia https://gangstersinc.org/blog/real-lord-of-war-back-from-the-shadows-as-pawn-in-international-p


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Re: 'Lord of War' Viktor Bout [Re: GangstersInc] #1037892
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That would be a terrible trade. Then again it is Joe Biden.


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Re: 'Lord of War' Viktor Bout [Re: Giacomo_Vacari] #1038068
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Originally Posted by Giacomo_Vacari
That would be a terrible trade. Then again it is Joe Biden.


I agree he was involved in almost every bloody conflict on the African continent.

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Re: 'Lord of War' Viktor Bout [Re: GangstersInc] #1038079
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Oh my God, Viktor Bout for Brittney Griner???? They're not on par at all; one had marijuana in "her" possession; the other arranged arms deals that have killed tens of thousands of people!

If the Biden White House goes through with THIS as a deal then the old man really has gone senile!

Re: 'Lord of War' Viktor Bout [Re: GangstersInc] #1045564
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Arms trafficker Victor Bout is back in Moscow after prisoner swap - Real “Lord of War” lives up to movie ending https://gangstersinc.org/blog/arms-trafficker-victor-bout-is-back-in-moscow-after-prisoner-swap


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Re: 'Lord of War' Viktor Bout [Re: GangstersInc] #1045567
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What an embarrassment. Got to love how the same politicians who promote gun control at home are now trading to release perhaps the most brutal gun peddler of all time, responsible for tens of thousands of deaths. What an unbelievable disgrace!

Re: 'Lord of War' Viktor Bout [Re: GangstersInc] #1045569
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The US government freed the biggest weapons trafficker for a fucking basket player? Really? The black and lesbo lobbies corrupted someone for this?

Re: 'Lord of War' Viktor Bout [Re: furio_from_naples] #1045572
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I’d say that this looks like the plot of a straight-to-streaming odd ball comedy

But Leslie Nielsen as the President in Scary Movie was actually better than this…

What a time to be alive

Re: 'Lord of War' Viktor Bout [Re: furio_from_naples] #1045573
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Originally Posted by furio_from_naples
The black and lesbo lobbies corrupted someone for this?


The sad part is that they didn’t even have to corrupt anyone.

Re: 'Lord of War' Viktor Bout [Re: eastsideofvan] #1045575
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Originally Posted by eastsideofvan
What an embarrassment. Got to love how the same politicians who promote gun control at home are now trading to release perhaps the most brutal gun peddler of all time, responsible for tens of thousands of deaths. What an unbelievable disgrace!


SO TRUE.

And I wonder how much effort Griner will put into freeing imprisoned AMERICANS in America for bullshit weed charges?

My guess is absolutely zero.

Re: 'Lord of War' Viktor Bout [Re: GangstersInc] #1045617
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I cannot believe they actually went through with this trade. What the hell Biden? Who would ever sign off on a trade like that


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Re: 'Lord of War' Viktor Bout [Re: GangstersInc] #1045619
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This is what the majority of our country wanted. I voted for Trump, half the time I would turn off his speeches because it was the same thing over and over again. But life was good under him. When i was working in Washington, one of the icu docs came out bitching about Biden and said something along the lines of we have the equivalent of Carter in office and we're gonna need a Reagan to get us out of this mess. Another nurse chimed in with, yeah like that governor in Florida. I am from Florida and I turned around, that's right Motherfucking DeSantis! That was a year ago. All those people I worked with in Washington love this guy.

Re: 'Lord of War' Viktor Bout [Re: GangstersInc] #1045716
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Terrible trade indeed Viktor Bout kept bloody wars going, especially in Africa. Also supplier to the Taliban and Al Qaeda. Putin will use him in the Ukraine war.

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Re: 'Lord of War' Viktor Bout [Re: blueracing347] #1045860
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Originally Posted by blueracing347
This is what the majority of our country wanted. I voted for Trump, half the time I would turn off his speeches because it was the same thing over and over again. But life was good under him. When i was working in Washington, one of the icu docs came out bitching about Biden and said something along the lines of we have the equivalent of Carter in office and we're gonna need a Reagan to get us out of this mess. Another nurse chimed in with, yeah like that governor in Florida. I am from Florida and I turned around, that's right Motherfucking DeSantis! That was a year ago. All those people I worked with in Washington love this guy.


He will be the next POTUS. I am going to be proud when that happens!

Re: 'Lord of War' Viktor Bout [Re: GangstersInc] #1045865
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This is what the majority of our country wanted.


I don’t know if you’re referring to the presidency or this specific trade.

I remain pessimistic, but I’m happy to say that no one I know (mostly progressives) thinks getting back a disgraced low-tier athlete/drug mule for perhaps one of the most influential criminal around was a smart move.

It really showed how morally bankrupt we’ve become. We made her relevant on the global stage as some sort of a Western hero worth the consequences of liberating a mastermind of war and death.

Re: 'Lord of War' Viktor Bout [Re: GangstersInc] #1045874
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LuanKuci, that majority thing was aimed at the election of the confused guy otherwise known as the current president who makes these great decisions. She broke the law. I don't where you were raised, but you do the crime, you pay the time. What the fuck was she thinking about trusting the Russians? She couldn't score some drugs when she got over there. In the beginning they were saying hash oil and then it became Marijuana you can vape.

Re: 'Lord of War' Viktor Bout [Re: GangstersInc] #1045899
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Some Africa specialists fear that Putin will press him into service to advise Russian oligarch Yevgeny Prigozhin, and his mercenary force, the Wagner Group, which is playing a key role fighting on the ground in Ukraine and has been implicated in some of the worst war crimes attributed to Russian forces. Prigozhin and Bout are both believed to be linked to Russia’s military intelligence agency known as GRU, and may well have crossed paths in Africa where they were both working after the collapse of the Soviet Union.

Analysts say that even if Bout steers clear of the war in Ukraine, he can still do a lot of damage in Africa as the Wagner Group expands Russia’s presence, trading in timber, minerals and other natural resources.

“Wagner is Russia’s coercive tool in Africa,” says Joseph Siegle, head of research at the Africa Center for Strategic Studies at the National Defense University, an arm of the Pentagon.

“While the numbers that are deployed in Africa may seem small,” Siegle says, “in fact, they’re having very far-reaching political effects to keep regimes that are supportive of Moscow in power. This has wide-reaching geostrategic implications for Russia’s involvement in Africa. Wagner is helping prop up some of the more destabilizing forces on the continent. Russia’s engagement is making them even more unstable.”

This undated photograph handed out by French military shows three Russian mercenaries, right, in northern Mali. | French Army via AP

“Africa is a great profit center for the Wagner Group,” says Tim Wittig, an American scholar based in South Africa, specializing in studying threat finance and wildlife trafficking. Wittig says that Bout’s logistical skills, contacts and discipline, far superior to those displayed by Wagner Group, “could really help solidify Wagner’s footprint in Africa and make it harder to dislodge.”

Tom O’Connor, a former senior FBI agent specializing in domestic terrorism, now a consultant, takes the view that Putin’s play is more likely aimed at stirring up political division inside the United States, in part by refusing to include a former Marine, Paul Whelan, in the swap for Griner.

“Taking Paul Whelan off the table is strategic on Putin’s part,” O’Connor wrote. “Reaction in many camps has been to attack the administration. ... Republican leaders, who have already said they are going to stop payments to assist Ukraine, are outwardly attacking Biden and making continued Ukraine support more difficult. Putin released Griner … to continue efforts to inflame the Right against the Left in the U.S. The end result, he hopes, is less support to Ukraine and to continue his efforts to divide U.S. population. Score one for Putin.”


https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/12/12/viktor-bout-merchant-of-death-00073422


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