Since you are the one making the claim that 911 was a conspiracy.the burden of proof falls upon you to provide the following evidence :
Who were the conspirators?
Who really destroyed the Twin Towers,Pentagon,and crashed at Shanksville?
What truth is it that we should wake up to?
I promise to read your response with an open mind,and not respond with sarcasm or insult,and would appreciate it if you would do the same.

I don't have to prove anything, I've seen documentaries and heard other versions, and it all makes so much more sense than the official story that was shoved down our throats. Do your own research, I'm not doing your homework for you. If you choose to believe that some caveman in the Middle East masterminded the biggest false flag attack of all time because he hated our so-called "freedoms," that's on you. All anyone has to do is see who benefited the most from it, and it wasn't "those terrorists."

With all due respect Liggio, thats a bunch of bullshit. WTF are you even talking about? If thats the hogwash you've been fed and believe, then where you source your information from is "highly" questionable at best. Did you buy a subscription to "Terrorists-R-Us Monthly?"

There are always multiple moving parts and unnamed conspirators, as well as varied motives for these sort of conspiracies, but to say that the WTC attack in Lower Manhattan was NOT committed by terrorists from the Middle East is the equivalent of saying "water is dry, not wet." WTF have you been putting in your pipe and smoking? LOL

and we have a winner folks!! This guy takes first prize for the dumbest comment of the year!!

Liggio - Seriously though, if Bin Laden was just a caveman with no money. Your thought would be logical.

BUT, it’s not because he had access to more money than most. Somehow all of the other attacks his organization SUPPOSEDLY carried out around the world were false-flag operations actually carried out by swamp dwelling deep state Illuminati skull & cross bones Bilderberg operatives right??

The Sept 11th attacks were planned,financed,and executed by Osama Bin Laden.
To date, no credible evidence has surfaced to contradict this premise.

I never understood the theory about 9/11. On top of coordinating the planes crashing into the buildings, they (the government) also used explosives? Why not just use the explosives and blame it on the terrorists?

Funny guy!...Like Ha! Ha! funny!

. The 9/11 conspiracy theorists really piss me off. Not only do they not make any logical sense with their “theories” but it’s also disrespectful to those who lost their lives

What pisses me off is when scumbags like you use the fact that people lost their lives to try and gag anyone who questions the official version put forth by a controlled mainstream media machine. Funny how lowdown scum like you always resort to this hush tactic yet probably walked over homeless people for years and turned a blind eye to every tragedy around you, yet when your media masters tell you to get in an uproar over an attack perpetrated by your own government, out the door you go waving your American flag made in China. Hypocrites.

September 11th, 2001, 9:59 AM: WTC 2 is collapsing after being hit by a plane at 9:03 AM. THINK ABOUT THAT.

Over 200,000 tons of steel collapsed in under 10 seconds with no resistance from the undamaged steel below from the fire burning for ONLY 56 MINUTES.

Now take a good look at WTC 1 (the North Tower). A plane hit that building at 8:46 am between floors 94-98. But TAKE ANOTHER GOOD LOOK. There is NO DAMAGE to the 93 floors below where the plane hit. The building is intact and the fires are black which means they were out or going out.

Yet in just 29 minutes after that iconic photo of the North Tower collapsing was taken, the tower would collapse in 11 seconds with absolutely NO RESISTANCE from the 93 UNDAMAGED FLOORS you see in the photo.

And WTC 7 would collapse in just 6 seconds at 5:21 pm, 7 HOURS AFTER the North Tower collapsed, and WTC 7 WAS NOT EVEN HIT BY A PLANE.

Some people don't want to hear the truth,
because they don't want their illusions destroyed.
But the TRUTH is, that on September 11, 2001,
The Laws of Physics DID NOT EXIST 3 times that day!
WTC 2 collapsed in seconds WITHOUT ANY RESISTANCE!
(A PHYSICAL IMPOSSIBILITY )
WTC 1 collapsed in 11 seconds WITHOUT ANDY RESISTANCE!
(A PHYSICAL IMPOSSIBILITY )
and
WTC 7 collapsed in 6 seconds WITHOUT ANY RESISTANCE!
(A PHYSICAL IMPOSSIBILITY )
This had NEVER happened before on the planet earth,
and has NEVER happened SINCE,
because of The Law's of Physics, specifically
Newton's Third Law of Motion which states:
"For every action (force) in nature there is an equal and opposite reaction. In other words, if object A exerts a force on object B, then object B also exerts an equal and opposite force on object A."
"The object exerting force will meet RESISTANCE from the object it is exerting force upon."
In other words on September 11, 2001, what SHOULD have happened was when the damaged floors of the towers started to collapse, once they met the UNDAMAGED structural steel below, the collapse SHOULD HAVE SLOWED DOWN and then STOPPED because of the RESISTANCE from the UNDAMAGED steel below.
But in the case of WTC 1, WTC 2 & WTC 7,
Instead of the collapse SLOWING DOWN and eventually STOPPING,
the collapse GAINED SPEED! a PHYSICAL impossibility!
On September 11, THE LAWS OF PHYSICS did not exist,
Not ONCE, not TWICE, but THREE TIMES!
THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE unless
it was done by a CONTROLLED DEMOLITION!

Liggio, All I got to say to a guy like you is that you're straight out delusional, if not outright nuts! Lol

I wouldn't even dignify your idiotic comments (or rants) with an addressed response.

I was working at the Queens Costco on Vernon Blvd by the Queensborough Bridge riverfront to the East River. I am an eye witness to what happened that day and was dating a survivor who was working at JP Morgan in WTC 1. It's an insult to the memory of those who gave their last full measure of grace on earth to die in those buildings to suggest it was anything but what it was, a stupidly simple plan that took advantage of a lax aviation travel security system and succeeded.
It's well known that Louie DiBono the Gambino soldier, cut corners on the Fireproofing Contact for the World Trade Centers and failed to coat or only minimally coated the steel girder trellis throughout both Towers. This significantly impacted the structural integrity when exposed to the extreme temperatures of the fireball ignited by the fuel, building and office materials and directly led to the collapse of both Towers.

I don't think the image uploaded Is working, admins.

CNote, those buildings were obliterated in seconds, that's demolition at work. Sorry, try again.

1000% correct CNote.

I also lost several boyhood school chums that awful day and what you're saying is 100% correct, and anybody who spews any other bullshit like what Liggio is doing is either #1: completely delusional, #2: completely full of shit, #3: a half a terrorist sympathizer, #4: certainly NOT an American citizen (or in the alternative, an Anti-American sympathizer at best), #5: just a jerk off antagonist, #6: or just a straight out jerk off to begin with, and a disgruntled prick!

THERE IS NO TWO WAYS ABOUT IT!

PS: May I also say he's also a very callous and disrespectful individual to so cavalierly "dismiss" our pain and suffering who further even DARES to accuse us (The U.S.of A.) of bombing and sabotaging our own citizens....What a fucking idiot and loser this guys is. He is really sick!

I don't normally ever talk this way about a fellow poster. But in Liggio's case I'm gonna make an exception!

Demolition? Are you serious?
Just imploding a Vegas casino,which has been done dozens of times, involves advance preparation taking days,if not weeks.
The main support beams are strategically cut,high tension steel cables are wrapped around the beams and cinched tight,so as to direct them toward the center of the structure.
Then,of course the explosives must be placed at precise points within.
Mind you this is a routine Casino demo.
So are we to believe that all of these things were done to the Towers,but on a scale of about 10-1 given the size of the buildings,while at the same time doing it with absolutely no one reporting anything suspicious,no person involved ever coming forward with a "confession"
Believing that an enormous amount of equipment,tons of explosives,and quite a few operatives,were all mysteriously smuggled into the Towers,and then spent many days,if not weeks,doing the "prep" work,all under the noses of everyone in the Towers,thousands of employees and visitors is the ultimate "Tinfoil Hat" conspiracy.

Bingo Lou!

On September 11th, 2001, 19 men armed with box cutters directed by a caveman on dialysis in a caved fortress halfway around the world using a satellite phone and a laptop directed the most sophisticated penetration of the most heavily defended airspace in the world, overpowering the passengers and the military combat-trained pilots on 4 commercial aircraft before flying those planes wildly off-course for over an hour without being molested by a single-fighter interceptor. These 19 hijackers, devout religious fundamentalists who liked to drink alcohol, snort cocaine, and live with pink-haired strippers managed to knock down 3 buildings with 2 planes in NYC. Now THAT sounds like a conspiracy theory.

In 1996 Khalid Sheikh Mohammed met bin Laden in Tora Bora, Afghanistan. The 9-11 Commission (formally the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States), set up in 2002 by Pres. George W. Bush and the U.S. Congress to investigate the attacks of 2001, explained that it was then that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed “presented a proposal for an operation that would involve training pilots who would crash planes into buildings in the United States.” Khalid Sheikh Mohammed dreamed up the tactical innovation of using hijacked planes to attack the United States, al-Qaeda provided the personnel, money, and logistical support to execute the operation, and bin Laden wove the attacks on New York and Washington into a larger strategic framework of attacking the “far enemy”—the United States—in order to bring about regime change across the Middle East.

The September 11 plot demonstrated that al-Qaeda was an organization of global reach. The plot played out across the globe with planning meetings in Malaysia, operatives taking flight lessons in the United States, coordination by plot leaders based in Hamburg, Germany, money transfers from Dubai, and recruitment of suicide operatives from countries around the Middle East—all activities that were ultimately overseen by al-Qaeda’s leaders in Afghanistan.

So I guess it wasn't just a bearded caveman and pink haired strippers after all.

Exactly.

Carlos Marcello would be my number one suspect

Liggio is just upset that cavemen smarter than him accomplished something.

Bin Laden is from a family of billionaires and had CIA training in the 1980's back when her was on our side, "living in caves" all while he was assisting the United States to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan with the ultimate goal of bankrupting the Soviet Union.

To dismiss him as a "caveman" is to make a very deliberate and conscious decision to ignore his vast wealth, his family ties to the Saudi Royal family and his extensive CIA training and involvement in one of the *real* greatest geopolitical conspiracies of all time: the successful dismantling of the USSR.

He may have hid out in caves, but he was no caveman.

Liggio says he will not do the research for us - but in fact, like most conspiracy theorists, he actually requires that we do all the research all along. He spouts out claims without any reference and we're the ones who are supposed to go verify - or find the fault - in his claims.

Let's break down his post:

1.

"On September 11th, 2001, 19 men armed with box cutters directed by a caveman on dialysis in a caved fortress halfway around the world using a satellite phone and a laptop directed the most sophisticated penetration"

- So far, all correct, while making the deliberate decision to omit the context that this caveman is a billionaire CIA operative. The word "caveman" implies uneducated, backward and incapable and this is exactly the assumption that he is hoping will stand. Let's move on.

2.

"of the most heavily defended airspace in the world,"

- False. As there had been no attack on this scale at any time in US history, armed response was not contemplated prior to 9/11. In Liggio's mind perhaps, AFB's across the country keep armed fighters on scramble stand by in the event of a domestic hijacking, but this was not in fact the case pre-9/11 - which is easily, independently verified.

3.

"overpowering the passengers and the military combat-trained pilots on 4 commercial aircraft"

- Most employees even at domestic businesses are taught to co-operate with armed robberies, hijacking, etc. -hijacking was actually common in the 1970's and the policy then was ALWAYS to co-operate with the hijackers rather than risk any conflict that could lead to the whole plane going down. Again this is easily verified.

4.

"before flying those planes wildly off-course for over an hour without being molested by a single-fighter interceptor."

- False. The time between Flight 11's hijacking and the crash into the first tower was just 32 minutes. Again, if Liggio really did "do the research" he says he has done, it is staggering he could make such an obvious error. It is likewise ridiculous to believe that, pre-9/11, planes which have been off course for 32 minutes would regularly be shot down as a matter of policy.

5.

These 19 hijackers, devout religious fundamentalists who liked to drink alcohol, snort cocaine, and live with pink-haired strippers managed to knock down 3 buildings with 2 planes in NYC. Now THAT sounds like a conspiracy theory."

- In a conspiracy theorists' mind, everything works exactly the way it should all the time, and people's stated motives are unassailable. For example, if Oswald said he was a Patsy, then he's a patsy...simple as that. Likewise, if this guy is a religious fundamentalist then it is therefore irreconcilable that he would consume drugs and/or alcohol. This is despite plenty of examples of outwardly religious men doing decidedly unreligious acts; Jimmy Swigert? Benny Hinn? Hundreds if not thousands of molesting Catholic priests? It hasn't occurred to Liggio that they might be outwardly religious but inwardly hypocritical.

Al-Qaeda had already hit the tower in 1994 and failed. Then everybody is shocked that they would try it again. What was so shocking about it? The US Government used bin Laden for a decade then completely fucked him over. I wonder why he would want revenge??

In the end, what were the motives for the conspiracy? Who benefitted? Travel became a pain in the ass for everyone - so unless the TSA was behind it, it certainly wasn't the airlines. Maybe you'll say "Carlyle Group/Halliburton" etc. OK. If we follow that thread, explain to me why the hijackers weren't all Iraqi? Bush wanted Iraqi oil so badly that he filled four planes with maniacal Saudis in order to convince the American public that they should attack Afghanistan, only then to go to Iraq after claiming weapons of mass destruction - which were never found, even though this is supposedly the leadership group that was able to pull off a controlled demolition in the middle of Manhattan but somehow couldn't plant a few fake WMD's in Iraq during a war.

How does that plan work?

BRAVO Eastsideofvan....Bravo!

THAT was the most well worded, well written, explanation and analytical breakdown of the 9/11 Attacks that I've ever read. Moreover, you were extremely intelligent but a gentleman in your manner. Thats impressive. I don't think a single logical and sane individual could ever argue with your response to Liggio's nonsensical diatribe......once again, Bravo my friend!

That was fabulous! Lol

Robert Kennedy Jr: ''I have proof. John Kennedy's death was caused by the CIA''
Luca Grossi July 10, 2023
US presidential candidate speaks in an interview with '' The Newyorker ''
The President of the United States, John Fitzgerald Kennedy , was assassinated before the eyes of the world on November 22, 1963. Five years later, on June 6, 1968, his brother , Robert Francis Kennedy, was assassinated . The latter became Attorney General (the equivalent of our Minister of Justice) in the government of President Kennedy. While in office, he earned recognition for the effective and impartial administration of the Justice Department. Bob Kennedy, in fact, he was the politician who most of all inflicted very hard blows on the overseas mafia. In fact, as minister he launched a successful campaign against organized crime. Both were undisputed protagonists of American history, and both were assassinated in two different ambushes with a mafia background.
In our newspaper we have dealt several times with these state murders: many documents analyzed and interviews carried out. Among these also to Gianni Bisiach , the Italian journalist certainly closest to the Kennedy family (in particular to Ted), who had access to the secrets of one of the most important American families, precisely because of that friendship established with the three brothers. The first ever to say, (as it is written in his book "The President", in his film "The Two Kennedys") that John Kennedy was killed by the Mafia, in collaboration with some sectors of the CIA.
To corroborate that thesis of reports such as that of the Stokes commission, the Select Committee on Assassination of the US House of Representatives, which confirms what until 1979 could have seemed only theories. Not only. Even former CIA director William E. Colby , who died under mysterious circumstances, admitted during a presentation of Gianni Bisiach 's book, that the Central Intelligence Agency had collaborated with the mafia, while categorically excluding its participation in the assassination of the President.
The new documents, declassified on the input of Donald Trump (who deserves credit despite the fact that we still consider him unsuitable today to cover any institutional role with his racist and far-right policy) provide new elements that highlight how the truth it can also be hindered but, sooner or later, it always comes to light. And so it emerges that it was not Lee Harvey Oswald who assassinated the US president , but a police officer, JD Tippit .

Acts that add to the investigation conducted by judge Jim Garrison , which demonstrated that the CIA had been helped by "others", such as the FBI itself or, albeit marginally, the Mafia. Theories that will also be taken up in the film "JFK" by director Oliver Stone .
A mass of evidence that completely dismantles the bizarre version of the Warren Commission, the one that created the bizarre story of the 'magic bullet'.
In this regard, the new presidential candidate Robert Kennedy Jr , son of 'Bob Kennedy', also expressed himself in a long interview given to the newspaper 'The Newyorker' : “I don't think anyone who has seriously looked into my uncle's murder believes the Warren Commission is right. I am a trial lawyer. I have dealt with hundreds of cases ”. I can guarantee “ by looking at this case, that I could prove that my uncle's death was caused by the CIA. I have enough evidence now, without any interrogation, to prove that my uncle's death was the result of a conspiracy. And that the CIA was involved, not only in the original conspiracy, but in covering up the facts for sixty years and continues to maintain secrecy ."
The reason, according to the candidate for the White House, lies in the fact that John Kennedy " had not invaded the Bay of Pigs and provided air cover to Cuban opponents ofFidel Castro , which they considered a betrayal. They had trained those men. Those men were dying on the beach. At that point, they believed my uncle was a traitor to the United States. When my uncle and father stopped the attacks on Cuba after the missile crisis, they agreed with Khrushchev during the missile crisis to stop the attacks from Miami via Alpha 66 and the other groups that were going to Cuba to stop them."
Speaking of his father's murder, Kennedy referred to a second shooter, stray bullets, and a Mafia lawyer whose body was later found "dismembered into a hundred pieces in an oil drum." Kennedy also said he visited Sirhan Sirhan in prison, convicted of the murder of his father: “ I support his release ” concluded Robert Kennedy Jr .

https://www.antimafiaduemila.com/ho...n-kennedy-e-stata-causata-dalla-cia.html

Speaking of his father's murder, Kennedy referred to a second shooter, stray bullets, and a Mafia lawyer whose body was later found "dismembered into a hundred pieces in an oil drum." Kennedy also said he visited Sirhan Sirhan in prison, convicted of the murder of his father: “ I support his release ” concluded Robert Kennedy Jr .

Who was the lawyer?? Or do they mean Johnny Roselli?

Hard to tell. It doesnt mention where the body was found.

Johnny testified for the committee three times, the last a secret appearance three months before his death, when he was questioned about the assassination of President Kennedy.

But I never read he may be linked to the RFK murder.

Yes Roselli did that and years before, he was already known by his peers in the Outfit as a "loudmouth" individual. So Accardo and Aiuppa probably didnt want to take any chance.

Also, I dont know any other Outfit guy, besides Roselli, being found cut into pieces and later stuffed in a barrel, especially when the JFK situation is the main subject, or the CIA/Outfit connections.

Maybe Kennedy Jr used the term "Mafia lawyer" in a different context...and btw, back in the days some researchers also thought that Giancana or his accomplices were allegedly behind the RFK hit, but as usual, none of that was ever confirmed.

Ok thanks Roselli wouldn't be far fetched imo because he was shot in Los Angeles. Around the time of the assassination, mob leader and Hoffa associate Carlos Marcello was on trial in New Orleans. He was convicted in 1968 of “intimidating” a FBI agent.