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Re: Film to shed new light on plot to assassinate JFK
[Re: jace]
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07/02/22 10:01 PM
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((sigh) Here we go again: Majority of Americans question if Oswald acted alone. So, Giancana and other Mob bosses step in: "We killed JFK. And if we can kill a President, we can kill you!" Relatives cash in with "inside" stories, big-name director spreads the wealth.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Film to shed new light on plot to assassinate JFK
[Re: Hollander]
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07/17/22 12:41 PM
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JC, NYMafia, or anyone else, on Facebook type in Ivana Trump, go to posts, and look at the comments. As JC said, they are sick with hatred. There are not just few posts, it is in the high thousands at least. I looked at a few of the people posting this stuff and they are all Trump haters, or anti-gun or pro transgender studies for children types.
If they can come up with these theories so fast on Ivana, it's no wonder the JFK conspiracy theories live on.
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Re: Film to shed new light on plot to assassinate JFK
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07/17/22 12:48 PM
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I was just on facebook looking to see if any conspiracy theories were coming up on the death of Trump's ex-wife. There they were, saying she was beaten, pushed, or it is a coverup to stop her from testifying. People are crazy and obsessed. It's sad to see. There are so many nut jobs out there it's not even funny. Pushed? Beaten? Coverup so the kids can delay testifying? WTF is wrong with people? . Certain people are sick. The ones that hate Trump that much also hate anyone associated with him which is Disgusting. It would be so easy to say “Hey I don’t like Trump but my prayers goes out to him and his family for their loss”. This is another reason I hate social media. It’s 95% negativity You're 1000% correct of course. It's called decency. Regardless of which side you cast your vote for, show some brains (and some fucking class) and a bit of humility also. What does one thing have to do with another? But many people don't have a single brain cell in their heads (and thats not an exaggeration either). Democrat. Republican. Who gives a good fuck! But show some class.
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Re: Film to shed new light on plot to assassinate JFK
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07/17/22 12:49 PM
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I was just on facebook looking to see if any conspiracy theories were coming up on the death of Trump's ex-wife. There they were, saying she was beaten, pushed, or it is a coverup to stop her from testifying. People are crazy and obsessed. It's sad to see. There are so many nut jobs out there it's not even funny. Pushed? Beaten? Coverup so the kids can delay testifying? WTF is wrong with people? . Certain people are sick. The ones that hate Trump that much also hate anyone associated with him which is Disgusting. It would be so easy to say “Hey I don’t like Trump but my prayers goes out to him and his family for their loss”. This is another reason I hate social media. It’s 95% negativity You're 1000% correct of course. It's called decency. Regardless of which side you cast your vote for, show some brains (and some fucking class) and a bit of humility also. What does one thing have to do with another? But many people don't have a single brain cell in their heads (and thats not an exaggeration either). Democrat. Republican. Who gives a good fuck! But show some class. . Exactly! I don’t give a damn what you believe in AS LONG as you show some human decency and class. Thad’s why I don’t mind the JFK theories as long as those people arent attacking others may not share the same view
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Re: Film to shed new light on plot to assassinate JFK
[Re: Hollander]
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07/17/22 10:07 PM
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Howard Donahue (1922-1999) was a noted gunsmith, weapons examiner, gunshop owner, marksman, and an expert in the science of forensic ballistics. His expertise was mainly as one of the people who invented the science, although later in life he studied for but did not complete a Masters degree in Forensics. And he was very good at it, being regularly accepted by the courts as an expert witness, including before, during and after these formal studies. Donahue's theory, in a nutshell: Lee Harvey Oswald fired only two shots at President Kennedy. The first missed, but a ricochet fragment hit Kennedy, inflicting a relatively trivial but painful scalp wound. The second hit and wounded both Kennedy (probably mortally) and Governor Connally. The third shot, the bullet that then struck Kennedy in the head, was fired by George Hickey, a Secret Service agent riding in the follow-up car immediately behind Kennedy, and presumably fired by accident. The bullet that struck Kennedy in the head didn't behave like the other rounds Oswald fired, or like the ammunition he was using would be expected to behave. It behaved exactly like a round from an AR-15 would behave. The entry wound for the head shot is incompatible with the calibre of Oswald's rifle, but perfectly compatible with the calibre of the AR-15. Hickey was carrying an AR-15 at the time, and one of the agents with him thought at first that he had fired, but later decided they were mistaken. The fragments in Kennedy's skull were incompatible with the rounds Oswald used, but perfectly compatible with AR-15 ammunition. The trajectory of the head shot is incompatible with one fired by Oswald, but perfectly compatible with one fired by Hickey. http://alderspace.pbworks.com/w/pag...0theory%20on%20the%20JFK%20assassination
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Re: Film to shed new light on plot to assassinate JFK
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07/17/22 10:46 PM
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Oswald was NOT acting alone, it's very obvious it was an inside job. I can't believe you brainwashed nut cases are still falling for the same old tricks like with 9/11 and the coronahoax. What's next, a staged alien invasion? You'd fall for that too. Please cite the evidence that you are using to conclude that the JFK killing was an inside job. Not speculation,2nd or 3rd party hearsay,or schoolyard insults,but evidence. You have a chance to perform a valuable service by providing any evidence that you are in possession of to prove your point ,since by doing so,all of us "brainwashed nut cases" could then review your compelling arguments,and as a result,be able to intelligently discuss the merits of your position with the objective,intellectual analysis that you so graciously have put forth.
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Re: Film to shed new light on plot to assassinate JFK
[Re: Liggio]
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07/18/22 03:45 PM
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Oswald was NOT acting alone, it's very obvious it was an inside job. I can't believe you brainwashed nut cases are still falling for the same old tricks like with 9/11 and the coronahoax. What's next, a staged alien invasion? You'd fall for that too. If it's very obvious, it should be a simple matter of pointing out the facts that make it very obvious and thereby shuttering all debate. There's no need for name-calling, particularly when you haven't yet laid out your case.
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Re: Film to shed new light on plot to assassinate JFK
[Re: Hollander]
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07/18/22 06:18 PM
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Speaking only for myself, I haven't laid out a case because I haven't asserted anything here. You are the one who says you have all the answers and that the rest of us are idiots.
My primary knowledge of the JFK assassination (other than the movie) comes from, on the "pro" side, the Warren Report, Vincent Bugliosi's Reclaiming History, and on the "con" side Six Seconds in Dallas by Josiah Thompson. I have also made three visits to Dealey Plaza myself, as I've had a life-long fascination with the assassination of Kennedy myself. I've likewise visited the Texas Theatre and Oswald's former home at 214 W. Neely in Oak Cliff. I walked the route he was alleged to have taken following the assassination from his rooming house at 1026 Beckley to the Texas Theatre to time it myself. As a side note, I also had dinner at Campisi's on one of those visits, Campisi of course being the Underboss of the Dallas mob at the time, and his eponymous restaurant being the site of Jack Ruby's last dinner as a free man.
Based on the facts I have examined, I believe the shooting that is alleged to have occurred there is entirely plausible.
I use the word alleged in all contexts above because none of the allegations pro or con were, of course, ever court-tested.
Alternative theories are also entirely plausible but haven't been proven, at least to me, to a level that surpasses the plausibility of the theories advanced by the Warren Commission.
If you'd like to debate various aspects of the case I'd be more than happy to do that respectfully. If instead you have reached the conclusion that I am a stupid man with whom any dialogue would be a waste of time, then we need only agree to disagree. You will certainly not find yourself insulted by me.
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Re: Film to shed new light on plot to assassinate JFK
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07/18/22 07:11 PM
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If Oswald acted alone why wouldn't he claim it instead he said he was a patsy. This is only my opinion,but for an accused murderer to claim that he was framed for his crime is not unusual. Pretty much everyone accused of a serious crime,like murder,denies their guilt. I think Oswald really was mentally unstable enough to believe that he would get an acquittal when the case went to trial. The worst thing Oswald could have done was to say on National TV that he did it. It really sucks that we never got the chance to bring him to trial. The ratings for that show would eclipse the Nuremberg,McCarthy,and OJ trials combined.
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