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Re: Hardcore Gangsters With Sissy Sons [Re: Lenox] #1033691
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Originally Posted by Lenox
Originally Posted by Liggio
I don't know if Gotti Jr was necessarily a 'sissy," but he wasn't as about that life as his father, and I don't consider him as much of a gangster, mob-wise. For one thing, his father, despite being an idiot for a mob boss, loved the life, Junior on the other hand really didn't want it. I just don't think he was a good fit for that life. Just my opinion.


Agree but he was very far from a sissy/ wimp. He endured some tough time in witsec. Most men would have hung themselves.


I think you mean Solitary

As I said in the past Mikey Scars said all of the other families respected JR. he has no reason to lie on his behalf.

As Scars also tells the story Jr. seen what happened to his father
Did not want to end up like him

He decided he wanted out

He obivioulsy had enough money
He still hasn't worked a day since he left prison.

I have my opinion about the Proffer
Which I know alot do not agree
He fed the feds useless information

Since he still endured 4 trials so his "RATTING" did not get him any benefit from the Gov't
His "RATTING" did not lead to not one indictment..

Re: Hardcore Gangsters With Sissy Sons [Re: Liggio] #1033693
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Originally Posted by Liggio
Jackie, the Gambino Family is actually on the upswing, they're stronger than they were 20 years ago. They were at their weakest under Peter Gotti. This new administration is working wonders. Not yet as strong as under Carlo Gambino or Paul Castellano, but they're not at their weakest.


I do not think any family under any circumstance could be as powerful as they once were.

America was wide open territory back then.

For all the other reasons that are regularly brought up on here.

Re: Hardcore Gangsters With Sissy Sons [Re: Liggio] #1033697
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All I'm saying is that the Gambino Family is stronger today than they were 20 years ago, which would be 2002. They were at their weakest under Peter Gotti. They're stronger than they were in the 1990s, they were a complete fucking wreck in that decade. True they may never be as strong as they were at their peak, but they can be stronger than they were 10 or 20 years ago, that's not a stretch at all. If anyone really thinks that they were stronger under Junior or Peter Gotti than they are/were under such men as Frank Cali, Dom Cefalu, and Lorenzo Mannino I don't know what to say.

Re: Hardcore Gangsters With Sissy Sons [Re: BensonHURST] #1033698
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It can be possible that while they may never be as powerful as they were in the 1960s, it's very possible for them to be more powerful than they were in the 1990s. We only think of the mob as getting weaker and weaker with each passing decade, but time has shown that simply isn't true. The Bonannos for example regrouped under Joe Massino and were stronger in the 1990s than they were in the 1980s, simply because they had an official boss on the streets unlike when they were under Philip Rastelli.

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Re: Hardcore Gangsters With Sissy Sons [Re: Liggio] #1033708
04/27/22 08:01 AM
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Nino Gaggi and Nicky Scarfo Sr. was father figures for Montiglio and Leonetti,so even if Leonetti was a stone cold killer,he with the excuse of son flipped.

Re: Hardcore Gangsters With Sissy Sons [Re: furio_from_naples] #1033711
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Originally Posted by furio_from_naples
Nino Gaggi and Nicky Scarfo Sr. was father figures for Montiglio and Leonetti,so even if Leonetti was a stone cold killer,he with the excuse of son flipped.



and nicky scarfo jr...who survived a murder attempt and then was involved in a failed coup and murder against Joey and his boys and now has a life sentence in the federal pen

Re: Hardcore Gangsters With Sissy Sons [Re: Liggio] #1033712
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Originally Posted by Liggio
All I'm saying is that the Gambino Family is stronger today than they were 20 years ago, which would be 2002. They were at their weakest under Peter Gotti. They're stronger than they were in the 1990s, they were a complete fucking wreck in that decade. True they may never be as strong as they were at their peak, but they can be stronger than they were 10 or 20 years ago, that's not a stretch at all. If anyone really thinks that they were stronger under Junior or Peter Gotti than they are/were under such men as Frank Cali, Dom Cefalu, and Lorenzo Mannino I don't know what to say.


There is a ton of ways that this family or any family can survive and become stronger if they plan on it from stocks and now crypto to the old ways from loan sharking and gambling and unions. There are many gamblers out there that cannot go to a casino and drop 1k on a game but the local guys will give you that "loan" on the gambling

Re: Hardcore Gangsters With Sissy Sons [Re: Liggio] #1033716
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Originally Posted by Liggio
I notice that many legendary, hardcore gangsters have really sissified sons who followed them into the life. Examples below:

John Gotti Sr. - John Gotti Jr.

John Franzese - both Michael and John Franzese Jr.

Giuseppe Bonanno - Salvatore Bonanno or Bill

William Cutolo Sr. - William Cutolo Jr.

I won't count those who didn't go into the life either as an associate or a made man, but this is truly a phenomenon. Any more?



I agree with every choice except Gotti. He did over 6 years, and withstood 3 trials with hung juries.

Cutulo was not made or even close to it, but he is nothing like his father, and did try to get into things. The worst is the Franzese son who recorded his own father for the feds.

Re: Hardcore Gangsters With Sissy Sons [Re: merlino] #1033717
04/27/22 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by merlino
Originally Posted by furio_from_naples
Nino Gaggi and Nicky Scarfo Sr. was father figures for Montiglio and Leonetti,so even if Leonetti was a stone cold killer,he with the excuse of son flipped.



and nicky scarfo jr...who survived a murder attempt and then was involved in a failed coup and murder against Joey and his boys and now has a life sentence in the federal pen


Nicky jr was a good soldier and earner for the lukes and was for a while the capo of nj crew but his obsession to turn back to philly led to his demotion and anyway he got 30 y not a life sentence.

Re: Hardcore Gangsters With Sissy Sons [Re: Liggio] #1033724
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Other families did not respect Junior Gotti, they respected the position he held...He was a nobody who never did anything and had the family given to him, what did he ever do to earn respect from leaders in other families ??

Delonardo says they respected him to save face for the Gambino's...

Does anybody really believe Chin Gigante would sit down with twitchy as an equal ??

As far as Junior being a tough guy, yeah he did his prison time and then comes out and fights with his enemies in childish online arguments, gets stabbed and does nothing but call reporters to call the person a crackhead...That's not the most manly things to do !!

Re: Hardcore Gangsters With Sissy Sons [Re: DiLorenzo] #1033752
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Originally Posted by DiLorenzo
Other families did not respect Junior Gotti, they respected the position he held...He was a nobody who never did anything and had the family given to him, what did he ever do to earn respect from leaders in other families ??

Delonardo says they respected him to save face for the Gambino's...

Does anybody really believe Chin Gigante would sit down with twitchy as an equal ??

As far as Junior being a tough guy, yeah he did his prison time and then comes out and fights with his enemies in childish online arguments, gets stabbed and does nothing but call reporters to call the person a crackhead...That's not the most manly things to do !!



DeLeonardo is not one to tell us who was respected considering he is a rat, and worse, he ratted on Gotti who had been his friend. I am not saying Gotti Jr. was like Chin, but calling him names like sissy or placing him in the category of the others on the list is too much a stretch. In fact, Micky Scars belongs on the list in place of Gotti.

Re: Hardcore Gangsters With Sissy Sons [Re: Liggio] #1033753
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Sissy is just a catchy word for the title I used. My whole point, sissy or not, he wasn't a good fit for the life, and he wasn't no Gotti Sr.

Re: Hardcore Gangsters With Sissy Sons [Re: Liggio] #1033758
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I used the wrong term. I meant he was in the SHU.

Re: Hardcore Gangsters With Sissy Sons [Re: Liggio] #1033767
04/28/22 02:11 AM
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Anthony Ruggiano - Anthony Ruggiano Jr

Re: Hardcore Gangsters With Sissy Sons [Re: TonyPro] #1033780
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Originally Posted by TonyPro
Anthony Ruggiano - Anthony Ruggiano Jr



That is a great one.

Re: Hardcore Gangsters With Sissy Sons [Re: jace] #1033788
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Originally Posted by jace
Originally Posted by TonyPro
Anthony Ruggiano - Anthony Ruggiano Jr



That is a great one.


What is the story of Anthony Ruggiano Jr?

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