Let's also remember that no person alive today WAS a slave.

Let's also remember that no person alive today WAS a slave. [/quote]I'm a slave to the rhythm

I think you should look back further towards the 1600's and indentured servitude, which is essentially white/european slavery...

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So what? People still refer to them as what they were called back them and talk about it everyday.

I think you should look back further towards the 1600's and indentured servitude, which is essentially white/european slavery...
[/b][/quote]Well, yeh, slave trade started way back when Europe was colonizing Africa. I'm just referring to what they endured here in America.

and whose fault is it that it is talked about everyday. The black people themselves continuously try to bring it up as a crutch. A good portion of white people DO NOT CARE if blacks were slaves. But its people like you who keep trying to bring it up.

and whose fault is it that it is talked about everyday. The black people themselves continuously try to bring it up as a crutch. A good portion of white people DO NOT CARE if blacks were slaves. But its people like you who keep trying to bring it up. [/quote]Whose fault is it? I'll use a recent example. People here and in the media are talking about how Mrs. Rice was in the segregated south. I have never heard her talk about this. Why is it ok for them to defend her with that, but it's wrong for blacks to bring up the negative side of slavery and segregation, or the ones who didn't succeed like Mrs. Rice? I don't keep 'trying to bring it up.' You asked my opinion and I gave it, willingly. -Pat

No one asked you to start a thread entitled : "Racism- still alive"


one more thing- how would MR. Matrin Luther King Jr. feel about you saying that?

No one asked you to start a thread entitled : "Racism- still alive" [/quote]..and no one asked you to give your opinion if you were offended (which it seems you are) by the subject. I didn't know I needed to ask permission, since I didn't the past 38 times. And I'd like you to reply to the other part of my post, since I was replying to your comment.

You honestly lost me. I said 'Mrs. Rice,' referring to the new Secretary of State.

No one asked you to start a thread entitled : "Racism- still alive" [/quote]..and no one asked you to give your opinion if you were offended (which it seems you are) by the subject. I didn't know I needed to ask permission, since I didn't the past 38 times. And I'd like you to reply to the other part of my post, since I was replying to your comment.

[/b][/quote]but you said "you weren't bringing it up" but You were by starting the thread in the first place


I didn't respond to that because I've never said it. I can't speak for WHY other people would say things.

There is no need to bring ANY OF IT UP. Slavery has not been around in this country for 200 years, no one alive today has lived through it so IT'S NOT AN EXCUSE FOR THEM. The 50/60 year old black men who lived through segregation can use that, not the 20 year olds.

Pat.

Mrs Rice is a Dr.

And I'm referring to when Europe colonized America.

No need bring any of it up? Why, because it's a problem that no one can solve and you want to ignore it?

I didn't bring up slavery in my first post. It was brought up by other people.

Are you talking about racism or slavery/segregation.


I was talking about slavery/segregation. It is over with there is nothing that can be done to change it.

Racism will always be around, just like sexism. But now we are back to 20 posts ago so there is no point in rewriting everything I've stated before

Ok? Does this mean I can't call her 'Mrs.'? If I ever see my doctor out of the hospital, I call his 'Mr.' Same with professors. I don't say, "Hey, 'professor etc'"-Pat

She's also not a Mrs...she's a Ms. (not married).

Ok? Does this mean I can't call her 'Mrs.'? If I ever see my doctor out of the hospital, I call his 'Mr.' Same with professors. I don't say, "Hey, 'professor etc'"-Pat [/b][/quote]People who spend the time in College/graduate school EARNED the right to be called Dr. It is very offensive to Dr's to be called Mr or Mrs.

Well you are in highschool so I doubt there are any Doctors there but if there are ask them what they would prefer to be called (Obviously not ALL Dr's prefer to be called Dr. but a LARGE majority of them do) But in college I have yet to call a professor mr/mrs. It is always Dr.

She's also not a Mrs...she's a Ms. (not married). [/b][/quote]She's married to her job

Your job does nothing for you and won't take out the trash so its the same as a Husband

Do you have a mouse in your pocket ?

* Mexicans didn't first come to the US, but rather the US came to Mexicans. The Southwest US was part of Mexico until 1848. Therefore the main language was Spanish before it was English.

* Affirmative Action has benefited women way more that any ethnic minorities group. Affirmative Action has benefited more white people (women) than anyone else. It is simply easier to bash ethnic minorities than it is to bash women of any race.

* the vast majority of crime is intra-race, intra-social class.

* If sounds like you wish you were (assuming you are not already) a member of an ethnic minority group. After all, they are now on top of the world from your perspective!

Is the Southwest US the United States of America or Mexico? The geography might have belonged to Mexico once, but the United States is an English-speaking nation. The nation expanded. So, the main language was always English.. it doesn't matter what territories used to belong to where.

So? Affirmative action is wrong with women, too.


Yeah. What's the point?


What??? I'm totally lost. What in the hell are you talking about? Please clarify, I'm very interested in where you pulled that paragraph from.

Racism is alive unfortunately, rap music is to blame, so is inter-racial relationships

How can inter-racial relationships be to blame? That would be one of the things stopping it.

Ok? Does this mean I can't call her 'Mrs.'? If I ever see my doctor out of the hospital, I call his 'Mr.' Same with professors. I don't say, "Hey, 'professor etc'"-Pat [/b][/quote]Pat,

As a sign of sheer respect it is proper to call a Doctor by the title Dr. instead of Mrs., Ms. or Mr. Same with a Judge, you refer to a judge as Your Honor in the court room, and if you meet him or her on the street you would address them as Judge so and so. It is just a proper way of doing things.


Don Cardi

It pisses a lot of white guys off to see white girls with blacks, and they may not have hated blacks before, but they end up hating them, not me obviously, but a friend of mine was happy-go-lucky and hated nobody (like me)but a black stole his girl and now he is derek vinyard the second, catch my drift?

It pisses a lot of white guys off to see white girls with blacks, and they may not have hated blacks before, but they end up hating them, not me obviously, but a friend of mine was happy-go-lucky and hated nobody (like me)but a black stole his girl and now he is derek vinyard the second, catch my drift? [/b][/quote]and if a white guy would have stole his girlfriend would he have hated all white guys?

That makes no sense.


that would make them racist already

I know it makes no sense you are right

As I say, it was not me it happened to.
Most Mediterranean countries are very anti- black unfortunately, italy, greece, cyprus and obviously spain, its a real shame, we are almost in 2005 and this level of racism still exists

Shitting hell, again I saw some disgusting scenes in football here in England. It makes us look like idiots after the fuss we've made about Spain. Even worse it was my team, Blackburn, that's the centre of the allegations. Video evidence clearly shows an ex Blackburn player being verbally abused by fans because of his black skin. I clearly made out numerous "Black bastards" to his face and monkey chanting. It's fucking wrong.

Britan too, is a very racist country racism is part of our society its a shame but there you go, it don't affect my life, being half greek half italian, so i dont really care about the issue

First of all, Britain is not a country.

Of course racism still exists here, find me a place where it doesn't. But here in England we're not half as bad as what we used to be even 20 years ago. We've become a multicultural society and especially with football racism wasn't the issue it was back then.

In general though we're much better now than we've ever been. We're long past the days of the political incorrectness of Love thy Neighbour and even some of the lines Del Boy spurts out in the very old Only Fools and Horses episodes. One particular line springs to mind which would never be used in that context again on TV: On discussing the devastation of a nuclear war and surviving it in a bomb shelter, Rodney explains there'd be no point in living withing nothing to eat. Del Boy's quick quip was something along the lines of: "There'd still be a paki shop on the corner somewhere".

my father was Itaian man and mom is a black
so what you trying to say