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Thief in Law War continues #1027346
01/05/22 11:37 PM
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Georgian “thief in law” was killed in Greece
03-01-2022 11:02 199

Georgian “thief in law” Shota Tevdoradze, 41, was shot dead in Greece. He was known in criminal world as “Shotiko”. The attacker opened fire on Tevdoradze in front of a 5-year-old child.

Shota Tevdoradze was “baptized” as a “thief in law” in 2000 in Geguti colony, at the age of 19. He was given criminal status by the influential “thief in law” Gaioz Zviadadze, who was shot dead in Turkey last year.

Greek police are investigating the identities of the men involved in the murder and the motive for the crime.


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Re: Thief in Law War continues [Re: Hollander] #1027374
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What is a "Thief-in-law"? Thats a new one for me.

Never mind, I looked it up. Interesting. Thanks

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Re: Thief in Law War continues [Re: Mamaluke] #1027375
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You looked it up as you were typing that and still asked?

Re: Thief in Law War continues [Re: Hollander] #1027377
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Whats written below my post? Ill let you figure it out Sherlock.

Re: Thief in Law War continues [Re: Hollander] #1027383
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Vory v Zakone are a secret society originated in the most brutal prisons in the former USSR.


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Re: Thief in Law War continues [Re: Hollander] #1027388
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Interesting stuff - I was under the impression that they were pretty much done with. Guess not!

P.S. I always laugh when I see guys putting on their stars on their collarbones/knees trying to pretend they're Vors. Would love to see them try it front of actual Vors!

Re: Thief in Law War continues [Re: Hollander] #1027390
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Its like that movie with Vigo Mortenson

Re: Thief in Law War continues [Re: CleanBandit] #1027394
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CleanBandit, funny in one breath you say that you thought they were finished and in the next you say you'd love to see people pretend to be Vors in front of actual Vors. Make up your mind, consistency please.

Re: Thief in Law War continues [Re: Hollander] #1027396
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Yes DillyDolly, because people can't pretend to be something/someone if that's inactive.

And yes, I figured they were finished as far as alliance and organization go. Does that mean I think all Vors are dead? No.

Would I like to see posers in front of actual Vors, who are still criminals and would probably lay hands on them for pretending to someone they're not? Yes.

But thank you for giving me the opportunity to break this down to you and explain it smile

Re: Thief in Law War continues [Re: Hollander] #1027417
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The Georgian mafia is regarded as one of the biggest, powerful and influential criminal networks in Europe, which has produced the biggest number of "thieves in law" in all former USSR countries and controls and regulates most of the Russian-speaking mafia groups.


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Re: Thief in Law War continues [Re: CleanBandit] #1027432
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The Russian Mafia is notorious but the Slavics are a minority the Caucusus is dominant.


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Re: Thief in Law War continues [Re: Hollander] #1027443
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Interesting! I guess I have to read up on Vory V Zakone, it's been a while. The last I read (bear in mind it was close to a decade ago!) it was that the newer generations are refusing to show alliance to Vory V Zakone and that the number and influence of Vors is decreasing.

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In Ingushetia, near the village of Surkhakhi, a skeletonized body was found that could have belonged to 31-year-old thief in law Khamzat Aushev, known in criminal circles as Khamzat Ingush, Kavkaz.

A pistol was found next to the corpse, whose ribs and skull were already exposed, but jeans and a jacket were preserved. The publication reports that the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the departments of the Investigative Committee for Ingushetia have not denied the information about the discovery of the body of the crime boss.

The version of suicide due to the mental state of the deceased is also being considered.

Khamzat Aushev is one of the youngest thieves in law in Russia. He was “crowned” in 2012 in Dubai by influential Georgian thieves in law. In 2013, he was arrested and served a long sentence for robbery and disorganization of the Vladimirsky Central prison. In 2020, the crime boss was sent to a prison psychiatric hospital and released from it for health reasons in the spring of 2021.

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Re: Thief in Law War continues [Re: Hollander] #1027466
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The book the vory by Mark galeotti is the best I've read about all the Russian mafias.
Gives very good info and dispells many myths and bad intell from the past about how these criminal networks operate.

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Vor V Zakone is predominantly a South Caucasus thing. The number of Georgian vors is disproportionate - and within the Georgian vor world the number of vors coming from the Svaneti region is even more disproportionate. Other vors predominantly hail from Azerbaijan and Armenia and there's a comparatively huge number of Yezidi Kurdish vors from Armenia and Georgia as well.

That doesn't really mean that the Slavs are a minority in the "Russian" criminal world. Most "bratvas" from Moscow, Saint Petersburg, the Urals, Vladivostok, etc...are predominantly ethnically Russian (Slavic) - they also have plenty of Jewish members - and hold a lot of power.

Criminal groups from the North Caucasus - usually Chechen, Ingush and Dagestani (mostly Avar-speaking) groups - are like the Slavic bratvas in that they usually don't follow the vor authority either. Although there seems to be an increase of vor recruitment among North Caucasians.

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Ethnicity has little influence on joining the vor . Within the Vor(and the Russian mafia) several ethnicities cluster together in major crime groups: ethnic Russians, Russian and Ukrainian Jews, Georgians, Armenians, Chechens, Azerbaijanis and Yazidis can all be found within the vor v zakone or within the crime groups mentioned under the term Russian mafia.


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Re: Thief in Law War continues [Re: Hollander] #1030893
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Russian boss Zakhar “Shakro Molodoy” Kalashov, 68, posted a text from prison in an attempt to put end to the conflict. Tariel Oniani's rapprochement with Kalashov allows Oniani to claim the position of supreme leader of the Vory brotherhood…

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Re: Thief in Law War continues [Re: Hollander] #1030916
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Last October Tariel Oniani went to freedom in Spain. He served the term of concluding on charges of laundering of criminal assets.
According to the publication, the 63-year-old authority immediately left the country in an unknown direction.


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