Funny that you bring up Italian immigrants coming to this country with last names ending in a vowel.
When my Grandfather came to this country he was told to registrar his surname as ending in a consonant instead of a vowel.
Thus our last name ends in an N and not an O as our family surname name was for generations.

Family lore has always been that grandfather dropped the O and that’s how we became the “Roman” family. Not sure that Roman is less Italian than Romano, but solved vowel problem.

That was a common thing, both as an "accident" by the Irish immigration officers at Ellis Island that didn't understand the spelling of Italian names and fucked em up, and deliberately by some Italians themselves who wanted to blend more easily into American society.

Sometimes i think criminals of mr Manna' s stature, will never get released they make an example of them, crime doesn't pay. Another thing too, some asshole government official or judge wants to make his name more prominent. He'll purposefully negate the persons release and give some bullshit speech to justify it. As we all know the biggest crew is the government with police as their muscle you can't beat that shit.

https://youtu.be/o7v4COH6KFI

Here's an interesting video involving him

That was not untypical back then. But Roman can also represent Spanish and several other nationalities as well. Romano? Lol, strictly Italiano

As long as you're discussing Italian immigrant name changes, I was told that G in Italian didn't convert to English.
Thus the first letter of our Surname was changed to J. Anything factual about this or just another old wive's tale?

Your knowledge of these historical idioms is much admired. Your first example is really close, simply change the O for an N ;-)

I agree; He should have been out 15-20 years ago…

But you do realize; He ordered a “hit” or conspired to kill Donald Trump’s sister; MaryAnne Barry Trump; Prosecutor Micheal Chertoff and also judge; Samuel Alito….

You don’t get away with ordering and conspiring to kill people in the Justice Department…

I agree; He should have been out 15-20 years ago…

But you do realize; He ordered a “hit” or conspired to kill Donald Trump’s sister; MaryAnne Barry Trump; Prosecutor Micheal Chertoff and also judge; Samuel Alito….

You don’t get away with ordering and conspiring to kill people in the Justice Department…

I do not believe that for one single second. First of all Manna wasn't as stupid guy. He knew he could never even think such a stupid plot, yet alone make it actually happen. And #2 (MOST importantly), he was an adherent to Cosa Nostra, and Chin was his boss. Do you REALLY think that would have even have "thought such stupid things," or had it approved by Chin, AND/OR the Commission??

Of course not! It was bullshit add-on "unsubstantiated" "allegations" by the feds and piled on to help bury him. Period!

I also realize this is a dangerous person who probably got away with actual crimes he was not charged or convicted of

From trial coverage:


An electronic ''bug'' placed in the former Casella's restaurant in Hoboken, which the Government said was a meeting place for Mr. Manna and his group, turned up a conversation two days after the killing that included this exchange that the Government said was between Frank Daniello, 67 years old, a former Hoboken police officer, and Martin (Motts) Casella, 71, the restaurant owner and Mr. Manna's top lieutenant. Both are co-defendants with the 60-year-old Mr. Manna.

Daniello: Irwin, Irwin Schiff. (unintelligible second voice). The place was jammed; all the people ran out. He was in there with a broad.

Casella: It's a small place though.

Daniello: Bobby picked this kid out.

Casella: It's a small place.

Daniello: It takes guts though to do it like that. This kid is a--.

Casella: Stone killer.

Daniello: He was sitting there with a blond bitch, and they hit him.

In another conversation made three days before the killing, two unidentified men are heard talking in Mr. Casella's presence.

First male: You wanna hit him?

Second male: Irwin Schiff but we'll settle for that. We'll do him good at night. Bobby Manna didn't like CC.

Michael Chertoff, an Assistant United States Attorney, said ''CC'' was a mob code name for Mr. Schiff, based on Construction Coordinators, a New York business in which he held an interest.



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The plot against John Gotti, said by Federal authorities to head the Gambino family, first came up last Sept. 21 in a conversation among Mr. Manna, Mr. Casella and Mr. Daniello. Mr. Chertoff said the plan was to attack Mr. Gotti near a club he frequented on Woodhaven Boulevard and 101st Avenue in Ozone Park, Queens.

''Wear a disguise,'' Mr. Manna said. ''It's an open place.''

An unidentified man asked: ''Do you know where you'se are going to do this guy?''

''Yeah, on that corner,'' Mr. Casella responded.

''You know, this should be good and fast if it's John Gotti up on the Boulevard and, ah, hundred and one,'' the man said.

The F.B.I. subsequently notified Mr. Gotti of the reported plot, and, according to an Oct. 9 transcript, the Genovese associates learned of the warning.

''Hey, John Gotti knows,'' Mr. Casella said on Oct. 9.

An unidentified man responded, ''John Gotti knows we. . . .''

''That we ordered it?'' another man said.

But the plotting continued, the authorities said. On Jan. 10, Mr. Manna was overheard saying, ''a big hit, John Gotti,'' and then apparently discussing with Mr. DeSciscio and others the selection of a gunman.

Two days later, in a conversation between Mr. Manna and James Napoli, Mr. Manna said: ''Gene Gotti's dead.''

''When are you gonna hit him?'' Mr. Napoli asked.

''Gene Gotti's dead,'' Mr. Manna repeated.

''We're gonna be paying for this, you know, for the rest of our lives,'' Mr. Napoli said.

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According to cafaro testimony:


Genovese boss Anthony 'Fat Tony' Salerno told him in 1980 that Manna was the new consigliere, Cafaro said. He also told the jury that Vincent 'the Chin' Gigante and Manna ran the family for several months after Salerno suffered a stroke in January 1981. Law enforcement authorities believe Gigante became boss of the Genovese family following Salerno's imprisonment.


Manna approved the killing of Nicholas 'Nat' Masselli, who was shot in the Bronx in August 1982, Cafaro said. Masselli, son of William 'the Butcher' Masselli, had been talking to a special prosecutor investigating former Labor Secretary Raymond Donovan.

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At his age and given his current health condition, and given the treatment of other similar defendants, wouldn’t be unreasonable to release him. But seems there was ample evidence to convict him and the others.