Much has been made here about Italian-Americans not wanting to join the mob these days, which to an extent may be true, but to what extent? Are the 5 Families of NYC as well as cities like Philadelphia, Boston, and Chicago still initiating goodfellas into their ranks? Could a ceremony be held at this given moment, as I'm typing this? Furthermore, what is the Mafia without the making ceremony? To me it has always been one of the most alluring things about the mob. Take it away and what do you have? It's like jelly with no toast. Take it away and what reason do new members have to take their chosen life seriously? Not that many take it seriously anyway like we've seen time and time again lol.

Not sure if you are being serious, but yes guys are still getting made. Of course. If you go to Staten Island, you'll find so many wannabes you'll throw up. They'll never run out of morons

I'm half joking half serious. Lots of those morons are also never made, it goes both ways.

If you can earn, you'll get made. That's all they care about these days.

Federal hill is chock full of guys who all talk like they're " in ". But when push comes to shove they'd all shit their pants in the life

The 5 families have the most large recruitment pool so it can made dozen of guys for family,the Colombos that was almost be desbanded after the 1990s war after in 2000 get the permission to made new blood had rebuilted the ranks.
Out NY is more difficult so in Philly or Boston was made few guys.As well said Ralphie today they want moneymaker not killers and in some cases more guys prefer to don't be made because be a soldier is like draw a target on his back because the wiseguys risk more harsh sentences due the fact they are only made.

Yes being made puts a target on your back, so that's why you keep it as secret as possible. And the Mafia needs killers too, that's just the reality, but they need guys like Anthony Nicodemo (bless his soul) and Tommy Pitera, guys who will do the time if push comes to shove, without ratting. That's just the reality. I notice many people have this unicorns and rainbows fantasy where a criminal organization can operate with absolutely zero violence, sorry it's not all peaches and sunshine in that life every now and then they're going to have to get down and dirty, but not like Casso and Scarfo that's just ridiculous how they did it. That is NOT what I'm talking about here.

One of the associates in this new Colombo case was scheduled to get made before he got arrested

Oh well, he can get made in jail with a piece of burning toilet paper.

The Bonanno family had a Nov. 15, 2015 ceremony in Canada.

Fat Larry Spada was also made in jail and a guard took a bribe
for erase the surveillance video.

Bless his soul? Why? Nicodemo is dead?
Anyway the mobsters still use violence and sometimes whack a guy but they are focused on the mobey,this is the reason why prefer the white collar mobsters instead the trigger happy street thug,and for the know murders for sure there are many others that are unknown because they get rid of the bodies.

Oh sorry I guess it's a poor choice of words, he's not dead I mean I feel bad that he got so much time for something so stupid and sloppy.

Fat Larry Spada? I think you meant Fat Larry Sessa.

Yes.

He used his car for a murder and even he was only the driver thevlaw gave him 25 yrars while the LE put a bounty for infos on the shooter.

They gave him so much time because the guy was a rat, the government looks after their own.

Yes Gino Di Pietro was a rat and the feds really helped him,maybe if they wont hel him maybe dipietro would be still alive.

It must be my small town mentality, but made into what and if there is any "wannabes" are left, why?
I'm serious, I just don't see it with RICO and all.

You give RICO far too much credit as I've said many times, everyone says that it was RICO that killed the mob, when FAR too many other factors were at play. Like I've said before, and I'll keep saying it, many mob families across the country were on their way to extinction long before RICO. Guys are still getting made in the 21st century, in the few Mafia-infested cities that are left, I mean the books are open and places like NYC and Chicago never had to ask permission, and these cities still have recruiting grounds for LCN. Then consider the Cosa Nostra and Ndrangheta members from Sicily and Calabria that are popping up in NYC and Florida, you think they're worried about RICO? The show must continue to go on, RICO or no RICO. America also has many other crime groups besides LCN, yet they're thriving in the face of RICO, because like I said other factors are more to blame than RICO for the decline of LCN.

OK, it must be my small town mentality, but I did state: "Rico and all".
It would be foolish not to consider that Rico has played a large part in the demise of the Mob.

I don't think RICO was as big in hurting the mob as a change in times. If we are talking the American Mafia, Italians born here have been accepted into society and have changed. If John Gotti was a 30 year old today he would be married to a Hispanic woman, maybe have a few tattoos, and working a blue collar job. If any old time Mafia member was born after 1970 they would not be in crime, with a few exceptions. If they were criminals, they would be partnered with or working with Black, Hispanic, and Asian friends who were 2nd and 3rd generation American, and would have grown up seeing ratting as acceptable.

If the Mafia totally disappears RICO will be kept in place, it is a prosecutor tool that puts defendants in an almost impossible position of a fair defense.

I agree Jace, I think in the future as far as traditional Italian organized crime is concerned over here we're going to see more and more players from the old country, Roberto Settineri and Gregorio Gigliotti types. Italian-Americans or what I've heard some refer to as "wonderbread wops" are too Americanized and many of them are intermarried or mixed with other ethnicities anyway. And FOH yes RICO has played a significant role, but it's not the be-all end-all so many have made it out to be.

Keep in mind that when Rico was first put in play ad reported in the papers, one of which I fetched the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette every Sunday morning during Deer season at Charlies Roost. First to read it was Charlie Murgie, Consigliere. He read the head line to Michael Genovese and Jo Jo Pecora and told the that we better get jobs, the party's over. Yes, Rico lives on but it was created to better enable tp prosecute the Mob.

I agree that it's a significant factor, but it's not THE factor. The Pittsburgh mob would've went extinct anyway, they weren't recruiting any fresh blood and the remnants died from old age. They simply went the way of the dinosaurs.

In Prov/Boston, I don't believe anyone's being made. Last one was prob when Big Cheese's nephew got in. Other than that no way

That means that the Patriarca Family is heading towards extinction.

Prov is all but extinct. I mean when Bobby Walason is getting pub, you know its bad here.

Between Carmen, Anthony and Matty, rest assured NE is making guys, its the tried and true way money flows up-hill

you'd like to think so