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Re: The days, weeks, many months pass, no mob action [Re: ralphie_cifaretto] #1019837
09/11/21 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ralphie_cifaretto
The Gambinos and the Bonannos are still big time heroin dealers. It's a bad business, but the money is very tempting. Almost all the guys who are living in mansions are the drug dealers. It's sad, but it's true.

I feel bad for those clowns who are tying to get their shy running right lol. You might as well invest in crypto like a schmuck


The Gambinos and Bonannos are still connections with the Sicily.

The today mobsters are criminals with the italian surname that doesn't speak italian,swore an oath knowing that are only words.The old timers have seen hunger in the homeland or in the old hoods and joint the mafia for the money but also because believe in Cosa Nostra.
The mob doesn't kill anymore because the case of Anthony Nicodemo that was the driver in Gino DiPietro murder and accepted the 25 years sentence,is the exception is not the rule.
The mob doesn't sell drugs like the old times? Jack DiNorscio or Ernie Abbamonte that passed most of his life in prison are (again) exceptions.
And so on.
The Italians left the little italies and integrated, which did not happen with the ghettos of blacks and latinos.

Cases like John Pappa the son of Gerard a genovese wiseguy killed by his mob family,tried to get made in the Colombos but get life for 4 murders at age of 24,he tried to flip on who ordered the murders? No,take his sentences and for sure would be out as old man.

Re: The days, weeks, many months pass, no mob action [Re: NYMafia] #1019863
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you forgot the mafia is a secret society anyway

Re: The days, weeks, many months pass, no mob action [Re: NYMafia] #1019873
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[quote=NYMafia][quote=MolochioInduced]911 shifted the policing Landscape, all across the planet. The interesting part is that the FBI etc. should consider going after the OC groups that work with the terrorist. If you were to look at the Canadian OC, there’s definitely an overlap of ethnic groups that are working with the OC in Canada, that the USA, Israel and Britain consider terrorist. (Iran, Palestine, Algeria, Eastern Block, Iraq, Syria, Indian, Pakistan, Sudan,Afghanistan, etc) the country is full of them. As well as home grown terrorist like the FLQ, from Quebec.

It’s the 20 year Anniversary today, I heard one guy says “it’s not a celebration, rather a memorial”.

I just found out that the Secret Service in Canada doesn’t even carry a firearm WTF, how/why is that possible, they are always underprepared to protect or stop an attack lol




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In Sicily, women are more dangerous than the shotgun.
Re: The days, weeks, many months pass, no mob action [Re: MolochioInduced] #1019877
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It looks like he used a long-barrel, single-action, Western-style revolver in the Musitano hit, like a Ruger, Beretta or Cimarron.. He had to manually cock the hammer before each shot.. That would be very unusual for a murder.on the fly.


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Re: The days, weeks, many months pass, no mob action [Re: furio_from_naples] #1019879
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Originally Posted by furio_from_naples
The Italians left the little italies and integrated, which did not happen with the ghettos of blacks and latinos.

Hispanics are on the same trajectory of the Italians in the 1970s. It’s an unfair comparison because they got here more recently. Italians didn’t magically get out of their ghettos overnight.

Italian-Canadians are extremely well-integrated. Have been for decades. Yet Italian OC’s power and influence are undeniably stronger compared to down here.

The main reason for the decline here in America is found in the harsher sentences and constant ball-busting by the US federal authorities. They made the choice of becoming a wise guy less attractive. That’s something to be happy about. To be proud of. The feds made the US mob a locally-restricted criminal subculture, with some exceptions, but nothing that influences the lives of millions like in the past.

Canada doesn’t have that. So even the middle class, second-generation daddy’s boys think joining is the fast way to make the big bucks. Which it sadly is true up there. Guys like Leo Rizzuto, Steve Sollecito, Daniel Ranieri, Saverio Serrano and Daniel Tomassetti didn’t grow up in tenement buildings.

Re: The days, weeks, many months pass, no mob action [Re: NYMafia] #1019916
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As far as LE goes, I think that The Wire had a pretty good line when Baltimore PD tried to get some funding to wiretap or do surveillance on Stringer Bell.

The FBI agent then said something along the lines: "For this operation, his middle name is Ahmed." - I don't think much had changed since then to be honest - terrorism is still the no1 thing that FBI deals with I reckon.

I could very well be wrong, but that's simply because I'm not from the US.

Re: The days, weeks, many months pass, no mob action [Re: Turnbull] #1019929
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Originally Posted by Turnbull
It looks like he used a long-barrel, single-action, Western-style revolver in the Musitano hit, like a Ruger, Beretta or Cimarron.. He had to manually cock the hammer before each shot.. That would be very unusual for a murder.on the fly.


Thanks man! I read in one article, that it could of been a crappy gun, that was jamming. Being, able to handle that in a close quarters gun fight in which the target a one point attempts to exit the vehicle, requires practice. If you look closely you see him pull the trigger, gun DOESN’T fire, then he cocks it and fires, that pattern repeats until he flees.


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Re: The days, weeks, many months pass, no mob action [Re: NYMafia] #1019962
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Looks like the bust of the Colombo family today shows what’s going on in the streets not stupid internet speculation like this thread based upon no indictments which doesn’t take into account at all law enforcement shifting priorities and lack of budget when it comes to the mob, not to mention the bread and butter on the street is gambling and loan sharking. Which guys chose to do willingly, so they’re not going to the cops cause they placed a bet or borrowed money



https://www.nydailynews.com/new-yor...14-xsixgwl4ibf7pctecxkzngxwjm-story.html

To quote the article:
The investigation revealed that the collection of salary payments from Labor Union personnel was only one facet of a broader plan to take total control of the Labor Union and more lucrative Health Fund,” according to the indictment.

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“Everything we allege in this investigation proves history does indeed repeat itself,” said Michael Driscoll, FBI Assistant Director in charge of the New York office. “The underbelly of the crime families in New York City is alive and well.”

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A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
Re: The days, weeks, many months pass, no mob action [Re: NYMafia] #1019964
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They must have seen my post. Lol. Lets see if there's any follow up pinches with them

Also, around Xmas time each year the feds usually throw out a few 'gifts' to wiseguys as yuletide. Let's see if they do the same this year. We're only a few months away from Santa Claus.

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Re: The days, weeks, many months pass, no mob action [Re: LuanKuci] #1019987
09/15/21 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by LuanKuci
Originally Posted by furio_from_naples
The Italians left the little italies and integrated, which did not happen with the ghettos of blacks and latinos.

Hispanics are on the same trajectory of the Italians in the 1970s. It’s an unfair comparison because they got here more recently. Italians didn’t magically get out of their ghettos overnight.

Italian-Canadians are extremely well-integrated. Have been for decades. Yet Italian OC’s power and influence are undeniably stronger compared to down here.

The main reason for the decline here in America is found in the harsher sentences and constant ball-busting by the US federal authorities. They made the choice of becoming a wise guy less attractive. That’s something to be happy about. To be proud of. The feds made the US mob a locally-restricted criminal subculture, with some exceptions, but nothing that influences the lives of millions like in the past.

Canada doesn’t have that. So even the middle class, second-generation daddy’s boys think joining is the fast way to make the big bucks. Which it sadly is true up there. Guys like Leo Rizzuto, Steve Sollecito, Daniel Ranieri, Saverio Serrano and Daniel Tomassetti didn’t grow up in tenement buildings.



Italians didn’t magically get out of their ghettos overnight.
Of course from the WWII the italians that are the 10% of the american deaths in WWII slowly they began to leave the ghettos (intended as the various little Italy) of course there are still neighborhoods where there is a majority of Italians while Italian harlem has become spanish harlem.Another problem was the language in the 1950s there was still a good part of the italians that spoke italian while in in the 1980s only the old persons still spoke the old language,now the Latinos had the same problem.

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Re: The days, weeks, many months pass, no mob action [Re: NYMafia] #1020076
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@NY MAFIA
I’m finding it surprising with all of your “inside connections” “relatives” and “friends” that are involved in the life, your posting uninformed posts about indictments equating to “no action” when there’s action in the mob going on every single day, it’s just not something that someone like yourself with all of your “inside connections, relatives and friends” is ever going to privy to or hear about until it’s worldwide news and accessible on google.....
I’m surprised you didn’t know about the 250k they loaned that guy or the drugs they were dealing on a daily basis or local 621 they have been shaking down for the past 20 plus years and the story is the same for the all of the other families it’s just being done on a much larger scale with the Luccheses and larger than that w the Gambinos and even larger than that w the most scaled out mob empire of all the Genovese LCN Family.....


A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
Re: The days, weeks, many months pass, no mob action [Re: NYMafia] #1020081
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Yeah, I must have missed that particular memo Big Lou. Lol... Everybody in NYC usually sends me a memo on everything they're doing every day of the week. I'll get right on that for ya, ok big guy? LOL
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But if you think that the five crews in NY, and the other one in Jersey, are running at run steam. Or even at 25% of what they did back in their heyday (of even 20-30 years ago). Then I got a bridge I'd like to sell you in Brooklyn! LOL...and another one that connects to S.I. for ya!
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Frankly, If you really dissect the indictment and the 'alleged' criminal activity they're accused of, its a chump change type of offense. It sounds good on paper, but $10,000 a month = $120,000 annually. When broken down and whacked up between them. What as it, 4-6 guys involved? What did they really earn here? $20,000 each ($400 wk)? Maybe? Now they face a 20 year exposure for that? Hardly the stuff of mob legend.

And this 20 year shakedown was NOT 20 years at $10K month. Not by a long shot. Thats why they got pinched. The guy was coughing up some cash over the years, but they got greedy and tried for the $120K. Thats when he ran. So I bet they never even saw that type of money.

And THATS the truth to this case.
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And shying $250K loan to 1 single guy? How long was this guy gonna pay before he rolled? I don't know the particulars involved. But It doesn't sound like the most prudent transaction. Seasoned guys should have known better.

I feel bad for Andrew. He didn't need this at his age. He's done enough time. A wheelbarrow full.

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Re: The days, weeks, many months pass, no mob action [Re: NYMafia] #1020122
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Deflect deflect deflect its all you do
And if they’re such brokesters where are they getting the money to fund drug operations and Loan out 250k in cash to just one of theyre customers??
And the top guys in the Colombo family obviously have so much money that they can risk loaning out 250k to just one guy...
No one said it’s the heyday or what they used to be. I never said that. But if you think these people aren’t scheming and constantly bringing in money every single day than your sorely confused....


A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
Re: The days, weeks, many months pass, no mob action [Re: NYMafia] #1020129
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LOL, deflect? Yeah, right. That what I did with that answer. Good try Lou.

You are such a troublemaking troll its not even funny. You don't post on here for a week or two, then when you finally make your "grand appearance" its just to throw a few insults to me, Jace, and a few others.....You're a sick guy. And like Jace said a moment ago on another thread that you just insulted her on, you're "A creep to the bone!" LOL
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I never said that "they weren't 'attempting to scheme every single day of the week. But that does not mean there is any real solid stuff to 'scheme' with, or that they're earning big bucks with. As was CLEARLY evident with this current Colombo bust.

Unless you think $120,000k whacked up 6 ways to Sunday with a ton of guys is "big money?"...... who knows, maybe for you it is? LOL

And the $250,000 they pushed they borrow from the hierarchy to push out. Are you a complete dummy? Don't you know even one iota of how hierarchies work? You'd better go back to mob school and start with the class "MOB 101"
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Obviously, You need all the schooling you can get!

Re: The days, weeks, many months pass, no mob action [Re: NYMafia] #1020135
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Are you an idiot? I literally said the top guys in the Colombo family IE the heriarchy and leaders
So what school do you think I need to go to...no ones a troll, your just upset when I don’t agree with you and do everything you can to be “seen as the winner” because your fragile little ego can’t handle anything else
It’s a Internet forum you fucking retard...welcome to reality...


A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
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Oh, you're a "Troll" alright. With a capitol "T".....And that's ALL you are!

I see we hit a nerve with you. Good!

And I don't need to be "seen as the winner" because YOU are not in a competition with me. Even though you seem to feel the need to be. LOL. And if anyone has the "fragile little ego" It you! LOL Clearly!

Go peddle your newspapers, go pick your nose, or whatever it is that nitwits like you do. And leave the rest of us alone. You're a nut LOL

Re: The days, weeks, many months pass, no mob action [Re: NYMafia] #1020142
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Originally Posted by NYMafia
Oh, you're a "Troll" alright. With a capitol "T".....And that's ALL you are!

I see we hit a nerve with you. Good!

And I don't need to be "seen as the winner" because YOU are not in a competition with me. Even though you seem to feel the need to be. LOL. And if anyone has the "fragile little ego" It you! LOL Clearly!

Go peddle your newspapers, go pick your nose, or whatever it is that nitwits like you do. And leave the rest of us alone. You're a nut LOL



You think I peddle newspapers?? I made more than 700k last year....how much did you make?


A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
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You make more like $7 dollars a year!... LOL (or 7 cents)

In fact, you only make whatever the government sends you monthly for your "mental disability payment"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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Because you're a mental cripple! LOL

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Unbelievable.

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700k ain't shit. I come from a very wealthy family. 700k a year? You'd be considered broke around these circles Louie

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What’s unbelievable is how pathetic you guys really are...


A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
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I made 150k last year, I thought I was a good earner. lol


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Originally Posted by jtsterling
I made 150k last year, I thought I was a good earner. lol


JT, if you made 150K last year then you ARE a good earner. Salute to you! Don't listen to his 700K baloney. He can't even count that high.

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Now go get your shinebox...
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