https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c1NPSWpA-f8

Look kind of good. A sit down between two of the most popular ex made men

All the guys on YouTube who have crushes on Franzese are gonna lose it when Sammy calls him a rat !!

I can tolerate Franzese a bit, Gravano I can't stand at a all. I don't get the comments under their videos adoring them. Gravano is more of a rat than Franzese. Two tired old creeps (Gravano the bigger one) running a scam. Like a WWE match, with washers thinking it's a real fight. I still can't get over Chazz and Rudy, who needs them? Chazz saying security and a secret location were needed is insulting. They could have held this openly in Times Square and not been in any danger.

I dont like either guy but as long as they aren’t hurting anyone or breaking the law I could care less. Obviously given their backgrounds they are a wealth of information about the mob but always make themselves look better than they were. There is no doubt Sammy was a successful gangster as an earner and a hit man. Frances was also a big earner. If nothing else it should be entertaining

thats all bullshit, false hype and false promotion for the suckers who buy that sort of thing. Like they're still in dangers. They could stop and eat on Mulberry Street and 10 to 1 they'd walk out of the area unscathed. Sad, but true!

This is as authentic as the Bachelor, with empty threats and manufactured conflict in order to draw more viewers. Franzese has always been a dramatist and Sammy started out authentic but soon reverted to his street hustling ways once he smelled an opportunity for easy money. He's not a very good actor and it comes across on the screen pretty obviously.

. Exactly. It’s just like any other “reality” tv show

You have Giuliani and Gravano up there. One of them probably the most notable mobster of the past half century, and the other Gravano.

Sammy just can't stand the fact that he took the stand against idk how many made guys up to Bosses and Mike only took the stand against Norby fucking Walters. Mike played Chess while Sammy played the government's stool pigeon. That's why Sammy is so hot At Mike. If Mike took the stand against a dozen Wiseguys he would try to be best friends and have a joint podcast with him

Reb is right. Sammy is the biggest rat of all time and it kills him. If Sammy is a 10 on the rat scale, then Franzese is a 3 at most. And Franzese is most certainly a rat, but Sammy took ratting to such heights that I think even your average rat was disgusted with what he did. He sang like a pop star who had just signed a multi-album contract with Sony.

I don't know how Franzese pulled that deal off.All the prosecutors that were after him were pissed that he really beat the G and beat them bad.He must have been one slick dude.As posted above he never put a single mafia member in jail.Nobody cared about Norby Walters.And the feds were certain he was lying about several things including had he killed before.He probally had his best friend Larry Carozza killed among others.He pulled off his greatest hustle with that deal

THAT is not true that he never put a member in jail. Colombo Soldier Frank Campione, and future Lucchese soldier John Vanasco (he was a Colombo affiliate at the time) were forced to cop out to federal charges of "Obstruction of justice" and "witness tampering" charges because Franzese had given testimony that both of them had 'reached' a juror through Orange Tutt, a janitor at the time for a AMC Car Dealership that Vanasco operated on LI.

Based on Franzese's deposition that they had subverted a juror (Tutt's wife who happened to be serving on the grand jury investigating Franzese). They paid her $1000 to reveal secret grand jury minutes so he could stay one step ahead of the feds.

Rather than face him in a courtroom during a trial, both copped out to the charges and received 2.5 years in prison.

Franzese also gave "TONS" of testimony, TONS, to the feds during his debriefings about hundreds of members. He identified 'proposed' members for the various crews (which in truth is essentially naming made guys). He gave up the ID's of guys who were goodfellas that the FBI had not been aware were. He identified specific crimes likes labor embezzlement, fraud, extortion, gas tax racketeering, shylocking, etc., that made guys were involved in so the FBI knew where to go to nab them (his info was like a roadmap for them). He named the legit guys who they worked with so the FBI could grab those guys and turn them into rats against goodfellas.

Chin Gigante had gotten those "secret" FBI minutes and called in all the bosses, releasing snippets to each particular family as it concerned them and their members so they could get ready as best they could to defend themselves for the bleak future they faced off Franzese flipping and releasing vital info.

Individual soldiers AND associates were brought in by their capos and told about Franzese's rat testimony against them that Chin had warned them about.

IN TRUTH HE IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST RATS THAT NY EVER HAD. HE JUST HAD MADE A DEAL TO NOT GET ON THE STAND OUT OF FEAR. BUT HE DREW THEM A ROADMAP BEHIND THE SCENES.

So don't believe his bullshit about never giving up a 'made man,' made man or not, if you even gave up a janitor, a black gangbanger, or legit businessman, YOU ARE A RAT!

PERIOD!

But he gave up lots more than that!

Wow NYM, when you spell it out like that it is brutal. Everyone on here knows what Franzese testified to and against in court, but I think we tend to forget about the treasure chest of information he gave the feds outside the courtroom like you said. And just how much that info affected the families.
His actions outside still helped the feds put dozens in jail and creat more rats.
Well written and thank you for that reminder.

My pleasure. I call em like I see em, period!

And besides his public testimony against friends and family, and against Russians and other crews before publicly held U.S. Senate hearings, was his extensive "dry snitching' behind closed doors that he provided the feds [FOR YEARS] after his alleged 'deal with prosecutors'

He was a straight up informant. And a very proficient one at that.

In the year 2021 he would like to have all his fans out there in Videoland think that he wasn't (and isn't). In other words, you know Pepsi Lite? He'd like us to think he was 'Rat Lite' Lol. But the honest truth is a lot different.

And he's not the only rat out there to do so. 99.9% of informants try and paint a different picture of themselves to look better in the public eyes.

Franzese was also a jailhouse snitch..That's how Henry Hill survived, he said Franzese went to the captain of the guards and told him that the other mob inmates were gonna kill him..

Franzese claims that he stole $40 mill a month..Nobody steals that kind of money from the government and only serves 4 years...Bank robbers who steal $11,000 get 10 years..

Nobody plays chess with government and outsmarts them at sentencing...I don't even know how he can say that with a straight face...

I can't fathom how so many people don't just like this fraud, but they worship him..And sadly, its usually middle aged males...

That scene of him in the church is also offensive...The bible says not to be seen on the corner saying look at me I'm faithful...People know if your faithful or not based on your actions, and Franzese bad mouths everyone in his family and skipped his own parents funerals...That's not the actions of a christian, its the action of a snitch who was too scared to go to the funerals, and he wasn't scared because he left the life

Great point about being friends with the agents...

He said in one video that an agent warned him about Ori Spado...Why would they do that ??

nym is right on..

Gravano is the worse rat, and he has no business pointing fingers and screaming rat when he would still take the stand today. I think Franzese has regrets, or is at least embarrassed, Gravano celebrates having done it. Plus Gravano got off on so much, and went on television and did interviews saying he was going straight. He was then busted by locals in Arizona for his drug ring, operated with his wife and kids. Franzese has apparently stayed clean and has kept his children out of any crimes.

I think.what might irk or irritate Gravano regarding Franzese is this
Franzese knows how to make $$$$$.no matter being in the life or retired from the life and has a better business acumen than Sammy.
Who.took a more intelligent path after walking away from the mob?
Franzese easily.
Franzese is making more savy business decisions than the Bull.
Whats Sammy going to sell after he runs out of tales to tell?

Does it really matter in the big scheme of things that these guys both
Did what they had to.do to preserve their existance?
Since honor and loyalty is really a myth when you really break it down
In the context of LCN, then to be critical of these 2 for "betraying"
Their LCN compadres means you actually believe omerta is 100%
Real and honest.

Heres something to ponder
If a "rat" or "snitch" killed another rat or snitch, how does he look
Through the eyes of a LCN soldier or boss???

Yeah no kidding,I must admit I read his book Blood covenant and ofcourse he has always said he never put a made guy in jail or testify against one.I believe every word NY mafia typed

Meanwhile, they are now partners, engaging in a WWE type argument in order to make money together as a team. We debate them here free of charge. Makes me wonder....

Nobody is saying he isn't a rat. But he played the Feds.Tons of Testimony? Testimony is on the stand. He talked to the Feds but they can't bring in his 302s and use them as testimony. At the end the G got a 12 hour interview, names of made members they already had gotten from Scarpa, Guzzardo, etc. And Norby Walters whose conviction was overturned. He is a Rat who conned the G and the Mob.

This "sit down" reeks of scripted bs

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With all due respect Colonel, how would you know what Franzese, did or didn't, provide the feds (AND the state AND the locals) with in the way of informant information?

As I had clearly stated in several of my previous posts about this subject, he provided TONS of information about literally hundreds of guys across New York City, Long Island, South Florida, and elsewhere.

And whether you wanna call it "testimony" (and by the way you don't have to explain to me what public court testimony means), secret 302s during his debriefing with the FBI, other debriefings with prosecutors, local District Attorneys, Rackets Bureau detectives, etc., it is called "providing informant information."

The only point I agree with you on is that he is a conman. In fact, I'll go one better than you and say that he is a master conman. 101%..... because not only did he con the mob into thinking that he'd be a loyal soldier, and the government into thinking that they had themselves a longterm precious rat, but he also conned both his personal blood family (his first wife and children, father, mother, sisters, brothers, etc), and his personal friends both, inside and outside, the mob as well. There are well documented stories that go around NY about how he abused guys and conned old "legitimate" boyhood friends not connected to the mob out of money just before he joined Team USA because he knew he was leaving town and wouldn't ever have to pay them back or face them again.

But understand too that the only reason why Franzese was able to 'con' his family and friends (just as you or I would be able to con ours) is because as family and friends they naturally trusted him as blood family and friends should. So was he really such a 'master' conman where it comes to them? Or was he just a moral-less, remorseless, heartless, and selfish weasel who only looked out for himself?

I tend to choose the latter as a better description of him. Remember he was a guy who just out and out 'dumped' his wife and kids and ran away with some strange Mexican girl he had just met down in Miami, and left them to fend for themselves while he lived in the lap of luxury in years to come. He was a guy (the guy), who allowed his own mother and young siblings to live in near poverty (they lost their family home to the bank) while he admittedly threw his millions up in the air like a spoiled brat and made sure to lavish upon himself and his "new" family all the trappings of wealth. He was the guy who never made time (or looked out for) his younger brother John as he slipped into addition. And he never looked to help him afterwards. He just cast him away as an inconvenience.

THAT is the true Michael Franzese. But of course legitimate folks out there in video-land don't understand any of these things. Because he speaks well, they fall under his shroud of a kind and mellow persona. A fellow who can easily explain it all away, and when he can't, he simply then avoids the subject and vets any tough questions that could possibly come his way before any interview so he's not embarrassed by a surprise question that makes him look bad in the eyes of all his new fans and all the 'suckers' who pony up money to listen to his bullshit.

Nah, he's a jerk off. And I'm sorry to say that the people who listen to him are bigger jerkoffs.

A man of God? LOL.... nothing could be further from the truth. It's just his new look. His new schtick.

Exactly, it's a show put on by them to make money. Like the WWE, it's so phony, but has people hanging on their every word. The comments under it on Youtube are surprising. People believe it.

Goes to show how gullible the average person really is in the scheme of things.

Not just him, but the vast majority of informants try and 'reinvent' themselves and try and verbally change history to make themselves look better.

Whether they relocate to Florida, California, or elsewhere, they 'clean up' their persona and image for a gullible public. But at their core, they still are who they are.

How much information did Franzese give the feds and what exactly did he tell them? You can't just say he gave them a lot without any evidence for that claim lol. Everyone knows the guy is a rat and implicated his boss in a conspiracy to kill Giuliani and everyone knows he took the stand against Norby, but where is the evidence that his information led to the imprisonment of scores of wiseguys? I've never seen that. I'd love to see it because I can't stand the guy lol

I think the government said Gravano was worth $8 million in 1990...That's a pretty good money maker

If he played the government and they got nothing, why did he only do 4 years for stealing all that money from the government ?? He did not con the govt..The government seemed more then happy with their end of the deal or he would have never gotten the sweetheart deal that he did...Criminals try and give the feds old info all the time, but the govt. not stupid...If he gave them info that they already knew, how did he con them ?? Makes no sense

There's only one way to get a sweetheart deal like that after ripping off the government no less of tens of millions a week like he claims, that's giving up everything he knows..If the feds felt like they were conned they would have jammed him up with 100 years...

Does Franzese look like a tough guy who could do 100 years ?? Do you think he was gonna roll the dice and try and con them in to giving him 4 years instead ?? Come on