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Re: Father Louis Gigante exposed as a pedophile [Re: jace] #1017322
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Originally Posted by jace
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No, that's totally understandable pal...

Not only to fear mob retaliation, but in the 70's, it was a different world..The parents might not have ever believed a priest would do something like that...

Could very well be true..Chin had another gay brother in the family..

I just caution that when someone doesn't make a police report and just asks to be compensated financially, its raises red flags

Would criminal charges be possible this long after the incident? I don't know how the statute of limitations works in New York state.



I think they threw out the statute of limitations on any sex charge about a year ago. It opened up Bill Cosby for prosecution in California. There are close to 200 priests being accused, yet no one ever filed criminal complaint.

When Cosby was released, those dark glasses and cane were left on courthouse steps

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Originally Posted by DiLorenzo
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No, that's totally understandable pal...

Not only to fear mob retaliation, but in the 70's, it was a different world..The parents might not have ever believed a priest would do something like that...

Could very well be true..Chin had another gay brother in the family..

I just caution that when someone doesn't make a police report and just asks to be compensated financially, its raises red flags

Would criminal charges be possible this long after the incident? I don't know how the statute of limitations works in New York state.

I think murder and molesting kids have no limitations


Murder never had a statute o limitations in the United States as far as I know, probably since laws were first made. Charges of anything else did till they changed the sex laws a few years ago. Also Rico Laws let prosectors go back for any type of crime, even misdemeanors. They can even take an old misdemeanor guilty plea and add it to a RICO case as a felony.

Re: Father Louis Gigante exposed as a pedophile [Re: Moe_Tilden] #1017332
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Charges have to be within 5 years of each other to be added as a rico predicate. Misdemeanor cannot be added. All of the Rico predicates are felonies

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A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
Re: Father Louis Gigante exposed as a pedophile [Re: Moe_Tilden] #1017334
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These types of charges don't fall within the scope of a federal Rico.

The vast majority of crimes are typically 5 year statues. Tax evasion allows for a 7 year window statue. For Murder there is NO statue. And rico allows prosecutors to go back decades (provided that the last crime falls within 10 years from the previous crime). Conceivably allowing prosecution dating back decades. 20, 30, 40 years plus on a Rico so long as crime offenses 'touch' each other within 10 years.

There are a few other exceptions. But it's rare.

Re: Father Louis Gigante exposed as a pedophile [Re: NYMafia] #1017336
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[quote=NYMafia]These types of charges don't fall within the scope of a federal Rico.

The vast majority of crimes are typically 5 year statues. Tax evasion allows for a 7 year window statue. For Murder there is NO statue. And rico allows prosecutors to go back decades (provided that the last crime falls within 10 years from the previous crime). Conceivably allowing prosecution dating back decades. 20, 30, 40 years plus on a Rico so long as crime offenses 'touch' each other within 10 years.

There are a few other exceptions. But it's rare.

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Murder in aid of Racketeering still has to be within the time frame

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A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
Re: Father Louis Gigante exposed as a pedophile [Re: Louiebynochi] #1017339
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Originally Posted by Louiebynochi
[quote=NYMafia]These types of charges don't fall within the scope of a federal Rico.

The vast majority of crimes are typically 5 year statues. Tax evasion allows for a 7 year window statue. For Murder there is NO statue. And rico allows prosecutors to go back decades (provided that the last crime falls within 10 years from the previous crime). Conceivably allowing prosecution dating back decades. 20, 30, 40 years plus on a Rico so long as crime offenses 'touch' each other within 10 years.

There are a few other exceptions. But it's rare.

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Murder in aid of Racketeering still has to be within the time frame


Yes, of course, but I thought we were discussing Louis Gigante? What murder? It's a sex allegation no?

Re: Father Louis Gigante exposed as a pedophile [Re: Moe_Tilden] #1017460
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Sad to say but back then it was an open secret.
The families of the boys it were done to would NOT dare say a word the embarrassment would shame the whole family forever.

It's not right but the way it was.

It happened to a cousin of mine everyone knew but nobody did anything.

You think someone would come out in that neighborhood agaisnt a Gigante, they would be scared to death.

It's just the way it was.


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Re: Father Louis Gigante exposed as a pedophile [Re: Moe_Tilden] #1017471
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Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
https://news.yahoo.com/priest-broth...wSLJiO2fd4B7aQmYThY5G0D3K5QgA1OBDbx7bfux

I'm surprised NYMafia hasn't posted about this yet. whistle


Who knows if this bastard priest asked his brothers to scare his victims.

Re: Father Louis Gigante exposed as a pedophile [Re: Moe_Tilden] #1017477
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This thread should be deleted. No one has been indicted, let alone convicted. A good, decent man is being smeared. A senior citizen, I might add

Re: Father Louis Gigante exposed as a pedophile [Re: ralphie_cifaretto] #1017480
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Originally Posted by ralphie_cifaretto
This thread should be deleted. No one has been indicted, let alone convicted. A good, decent man is being smeared. A senior citizen, I might add


Agreed. There are so many guys taking cheap shots at a priest who has proven himself time and again to be one of the BEST priests that New York had to offer. Not only as a priest per se, but as an all around good guy who helped legions of New Yorkers in his time.

As I stated earlier, if he's guilty it'll come out. But until that day, we should give him the same respect and presumption of innocence that any of us would want if we were in his shoes. (and that our Constitution of the U.S. calls for I might add)!

Re: Father Louis Gigante exposed as a pedophile [Re: BensonHURST] #1017485
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Originally Posted by BensonHURST
Sad to say but back then it was an open secret.
The families of the boys it were done to would NOT dare say a word the embarrassment would shame the whole family forever.

It's not right but the way it was.

It happened to a cousin of mine everyone knew but nobody did anything.

You think someone would come out in that neighborhood agaisnt a Gigante, they would be scared to death.

It's just the way it was.



Wait--your cousin was being molested and no one did or said anything???? I assume you are talking 20-40 years ago, but that is not the 17th century. Didn't they keep him away if they knew he was going off to be molested every day?

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Originally Posted by furio_from_naples
Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
https://news.yahoo.com/priest-broth...wSLJiO2fd4B7aQmYThY5G0D3K5QgA1OBDbx7bfux

I'm surprised NYMafia hasn't posted about this yet. whistle


Who knows if this bastard priest asked his brothers to scare his victims.


It's one alleged victim, and i think Vince Gigante would not help his brother there. The FBI was investigating the brother who is now charged, so were local police and district attorneys. They would have known of it.

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Re: Father Louis Gigante exposed as a pedophile [Re: Moe_Tilden] #1017500
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Father Gigante is probably innocent. But that being said, it should be investigated, because there have been several priests who have admitted to these types of offenses.

Re: Father Louis Gigante exposed as a pedophile [Re: jace] #1017514
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Originally Posted by jace
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Sad to say but back then it was an open secret.
The families of the boys it were done to would NOT dare say a word the embarrassment would shame the whole family forever.

It's not right but the way it was.

It happened to a cousin of mine everyone knew but nobody did anything.

You think someone would come out in that neighborhood agaisnt a Gigante, they would be scared to death.

It's just the way it was.



Wait--your cousin was being molested and no one did or said anything???? I assume you are talking 20-40 years ago, but that is not the 17th century. Didn't they keep him away if they knew he was going off to be molested every day?



In the 1970's he is 20 years older than me so when it happend I wasn't even born yet.

I was told the story from other family members, when I was older we spoke briefly about.


To answer your question yes the family knew and felt there was nothing they could do.

1970's and/or 1980's you have any idea what would happen to you and your family if you accused a beloved priest of something like that?

You never heard of these things back then,
Why not because they didnt happen? NO because nobody would believe you..

Not much different than these woman that were abused by Cuomo however, they were too afraid to speak out. Or Bill Cosby you get my point

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I had a Knight of Columbus tell me once that the Pedophile Scandal in the Church is nothing more than a Communist plot against the church with an organization named Nambla (North American Boy Love Association).

Communists don’t believe in God/Goddess or the soul, and Pedophiles are definitely soulless demons, so who knows.


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Originally Posted by Fleming_Ave
Father Gigante is probably innocent. But that being said, it should be investigated, because there have been several priests who have admitted to these types of offenses.


There has been too many cases in the church, but also in other religious organizations, get unfortunately get mostly ignored. They also claiming abuse in the boy scouts, but who knows how many claims are real, and how many are people jumping in for lawsuit money. I think a lot of people are after Gigante due to his being Vincnet's bother and standing by his brother. The one suing, who knows? I think he is innocent too, but this should be a criminal case and investigated fairly. Instead it is part of a massive civil suit. Plus he is now so old and out of touch with the media it i tough for him to fight back.

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Originally Posted by jace
Originally Posted by Fleming_Ave
Father Gigante is probably innocent. But that being said, it should be investigated, because there have been several priests who have admitted to these types of offenses.


There has been too many cases in the church, but also in other religious organizations, get unfortunately get mostly ignored. They also claiming abuse in the boy scouts, but who knows how many claims are real, and how many are people jumping in for lawsuit money. I think a lot of people are after Gigante due to his being Vincnet's bother and standing by his brother. The one suing, who knows? I think he is innocent too, but this should be a criminal case and investigated fairly. Instead it is part of a massive civil suit. Plus he is now so old and out of touch with the media it i tough for him to fight back.


In Canada 🇨🇦 they even have had a Canadian hockey 🏒 hero named Theo Fluery who played for the Calgary hockey team, admit he was molested by his hockey coach and Hockey Canada.

https://www.macleans.ca/society/the...absolute-nightmare-every-day-of-my-life/

They even had a pedo scandal in Maple Leafs Garden.

https://torontosun.com/news/local-n...ardens-pedo-gordon-stuckless-out-of-jail

Also some weirdo white boy stuff at a ‘private’ school lol like those people are actually Elite, regardless, where they had young men who play hockey sticking golf balls or a gerbil 🐹 up some kids butt against his will, rape!
https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...nt-guilty-in-broomstick-sex-assault.html

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Originally Posted by MolochioInduced
I had a Knight of Columbus tell me once that the Pedophile Scandal in the Church is nothing more than a Communist plot against the church with an organization named Nambla (North American Boy Love Association).

Communists don’t believe in God/Goddess or the soul, and Pedophiles are definitely soulless demons, so who knows.

No offense but this is one of the most ridiculous things I've read on this site. lol

TBH, Gigante probably did it. I wouldn't be inclined to believe any other priest was innocent, and it's no different with him just cause his brother was a mob boss.

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Originally Posted by RollinBones
Originally Posted by MolochioInduced
I had a Knight of Columbus tell me once that the Pedophile Scandal in the Church is nothing more than a Communist plot against the church with an organization named Nambla (North American Boy Love Association).

Communists don’t believe in God/Goddess or the soul, and Pedophiles are definitely soulless demons, so who knows.

No offense but this is one of the most ridiculous things I've read on this site. lol

TBH, Gigante probably did it. I wouldn't be inclined to believe any other priest was innocent, and it's no different with him just cause his brother was a mob boss.


Fair enough, I took it in stride when I heard it, it was the day after 911, so people were emotionally charged. The Knights name was Richard Deville, he used the example of Musolini being hung by the communist and at the time Allan Ginsberg the poet advocating for Nambla.

https://mytjnow.com/category/sports/


The director of the Xmen, Brian Singer is a member of Nambla and charged with pedophilia.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/03/bryan-singers-accusers-speak-out/580462/


But again to think that guys in the streets on NYC aren’t doing the same thing today is just as interesting of a topic? I’m no Commie or pedo so I don’t need to deflect from the facts that #METOO is real and this is it happening IMO


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How does the " archdiocese should of known" ( of the abuse) accusation go?
Like how is an employer meant to ' know'
It's not something you think people around you are capable of.


I'm not convinced just by someone claiming historical abuse. Need some evidence.

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Yes, most priests are good people. But your friend is sadly mistaken, people from any walk of life can be a molester.




Originally Posted by MolochioInduced
I had a Knight of Columbus tell me once that the Pedophile Scandal in the Church is nothing more than a Communist plot against the church with an organization named Nambla (North American Boy Love Association).

Communists don’t believe in God/Goddess or the soul, and Pedophiles are definitely soulless demons, so who knows.

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Originally Posted by ralphie_cifaretto
This thread should be deleted. No one has been indicted, let alone convicted. A good, decent man is being smeared. A senior citizen, I might add



Yeah …. This is not good …. It’s crossing the line in the manner of what some are saying …. Don’t get me wrong …. Fry the bastards that do this …. But right now he did nothing.


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The reason why you are seeing alot of cases from many years is because recently NY changed the laws on their books pertaining to the statue of limitations.

When they did it opened up the flood gates for law suits like this.

I think they also changed it on the criminal side as well.

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Former priest and brother of New York Mafia boss “Chin” Gigante passes away https://gangstersinc.org/blog/former-priest-and-brother-of-new-york-mafia-boss-chin-gigante-pas


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Originally Posted by GangstersInc
Former priest and brother of New York Mafia boss “Chin” Gigante passes away https://gangstersinc.org/blog/former-priest-and-brother-of-new-york-mafia-boss-chin-gigante-pas


During his younger years Father Gigante was a very active and influential figure in New York, in politics, his community, and with the Catholic Church itself. He wielded a lot of power.

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Father Louis was one of the greatest human beings in the history of New York City. What he did for it's citizens will never be forgotten. And whoever started this thread ought to be ashamed of himself. Father Louis was no child predator

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Originally Posted by GangstersInc
Former priest and brother of New York Mafia boss “Chin” Gigante passes away https://gangstersinc.org/blog/former-priest-and-brother-of-new-york-mafia-boss-chin-gigante-pas



Why put that in this topic? Wrong, wrong, wrong. HIs obit in a thread posted by a nut who hated the deceased and anyone who knew him.

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I don't if Louis Gigante is a child molester, but he certainly has a questionable history as founder and president of the South East Bronx Community Organization, a front for the Genovese family.
"A four-month Voice investigation of Gigante and SEBCO has revealed that the priest and his publicly financed developments have been a $50 million opportunity for the Mafia. The homes that Gigante’s parishioners live in — senior citizen projects, one- and two-family houses, large and small apartment buildings — have been built, to a large extent, by companies owned by or affiliated with top-ranking members of the Genovese or­ganized crime family. For years, Gigante has been close to the leadership of the crime syndicate, a relationship that has a distinctly personal side to it: the Geno­vese gang includes Father Gigante’s brothers Mario and Ralph, and is now run by the priest’s eccentric older broth­er, Vincent “The Chin” Gigante."
https://www.villagevoice.com/2020/12/15/the-priest-and-the-mob/

The premise on this thread and in other ones on this forum, that the Mafia was some kind of noble enterprise, is consistently undermined by repeated heinous crimes perpetrated on other criminals, innocent civilians, women and even children.

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Originally Posted by CNote
I don't if Louis Gigante is a child molester, but he certainly has a questionable history as founder and president of the South East Bronx Community Organization, a front for the Genovese family.
"A four-month Voice investigation of Gigante and SEBCO has revealed that the priest and his publicly financed developments have been a $50 million opportunity for the Mafia. The homes that Gigante’s parishioners live in — senior citizen projects, one- and two-family houses, large and small apartment buildings — have been built, to a large extent, by companies owned by or affiliated with top-ranking members of the Genovese or­ganized crime family. For years, Gigante has been close to the leadership of the crime syndicate, a relationship that has a distinctly personal side to it: the Geno­vese gang includes Father Gigante’s brothers Mario and Ralph, and is now run by the priest’s eccentric older broth­er, Vincent “The Chin” Gigante."
https://www.villagevoice.com/2020/12/15/the-priest-and-the-mob/

The premise on this thread and in other ones on this forum, that the Mafia was some kind of noble enterprise, is consistently undermined by repeated heinous crimes perpetrated on other criminals, innocent civilians, women and even children.






The only time anyone said they were a "Noble enterprise" was likely sarcasm. Placing crimes onto them that they did not commit is never justified by B.S. If Father Gigsante got homeless people house to live in, who gives a hell what company got the contract?? Do you think the homeless wanted to sit around back then while polititians and FBI consultants stood around talking about who could get the contract?


And this load of crap from you:

The premise on this thread and in other ones on this forum, that the Mafia was some kind of noble enterprise, is consistently undermined by repeated heinous crimes perpetrated on other criminals, innocent civilians, women and even children.[/quote]




The premise of this thread was to smear Gigante and convict him of a horrible crime off an accusation. Start paying attention.

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