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Why do certain mob guys rat?? #1015836
07/11/21 09:09 AM
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This is a repost of an opinion piece I did on the current state, and past history, of so-called "cooperating witnesses" of Mafia stool pigeons.



https://thenewyorkmafia.com/2021/05/12/what-truly-constitutes-a-mafia-member-as-a-rat/

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Re: Why do certain mob guys rat?? [Re: NYMafia] #1015840
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Re: Why do certain mob guys rat?? [Re: NYMafia] #1015843
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I'll check it dilly ok. and repost

Re: Why do certain mob guys rat?? [Re: NYMafia] #1015844
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Try now Dilly

Re: Why do certain mob guys rat?? [Re: NYMafia] #1015845
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Well the obvious answer is so they won’t go to jail for life. But to me they come from a world of deception anyway so it’s just what they know. The whole “honor” thing is really a facade. That’s why I always say that they are all equal pieces of shit. My only issue is that the sentences for cooperators are too lenient. For example I’ve always said Sammy should have at least gotten the sentence he got from the ecstasy conviction in his original sentence in the 90’s considering he was involved in 19 murders and was heavily involved in Gotti’s crimes he was convicted on

Re: Why do certain mob guys rat?? [Re: JCrusher] #1015847
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Originally Posted by JCrusher
Well the obvious answer is so they won’t go to jail for life. But to me they come from a world of deception anyway so it’s just what they know. The whole “honor” thing is really a facade. That’s why I always say that they are all equal pieces of shit. My only issue is that the sentences for cooperators are too lenient. For example I’ve always said Sammy should have at least gotten the sentence he got from the ecstasy conviction in his original sentence in the 90’s considering he was involved in 19 murders and was heavily involved in Gotti’s crimes he was convicted on


yes, getting off scot free for 19 bodies is a travesty. And look what he did afterwards after the judge gave him a break

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Originally Posted by NYMafia
Originally Posted by JCrusher
Well the obvious answer is so they won’t go to jail for life. But to me they come from a world of deception anyway so it’s just what they know. The whole “honor” thing is really a facade. That’s why I always say that they are all equal pieces of shit. My only issue is that the sentences for cooperators are too lenient. For example I’ve always said Sammy should have at least gotten the sentence he got from the ecstasy conviction in his original sentence in the 90’s considering he was involved in 19 murders and was heavily involved in Gotti’s crimes he was convicted on


yes, getting off scot free for 19 bodies is a travesty. And look what he did afterwards after the judge gave him a break

. I agree it was a terrible decision. Even though my father was a cop and I’m a proud supporter of our Men/Women police officers I don’t like a lot of what the FBI is doing or has done. For example Lin Devecchio was a total piece of shit with what he did with Scarpa. But still anybody is the mob whether they’re a rat or not I have zero respect for

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Re: Why do certain mob guys rat?? [Re: NYMafia] #1015856
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It’s very simple 2 reasons, number 1 they don’t wanna do life in prison
Number 2 life in prison is tougher than the childhood they grew up in....
When you grow up middle class prison is tough, when your born broke, you see it as 3 free meals a day that isn’t shit compared to growing up on the streets of for ex Brownsville,NYC

I believe the recidivism rate in witsec is 25% vs 95% in the federal system
Sot he program def works better than some other options

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A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
Re: Why do certain mob guys rat?? [Re: NYMafia] #1015948
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Originally Posted by NYMafia
This is a repost of an opinion piece I did on the current state, and past history, of so-called "cooperating witnesses" of Mafia stool pigeons.



https://thenewyorkmafia.com/2021/05/12/what-truly-constitutes-a-mafia-member-as-a-rat/

None of them get wacked they just make money off of Podcasts and interviews. Now Sammy the Head Rat is going to be on a reality show . What's to stop them anymore.?

Re: Why do certain mob guys rat?? [Re: Beenaround] #1015952
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Originally Posted by Beenaround
Originally Posted by NYMafia
This is a repost of an opinion piece I did on the current state, and past history, of so-called "cooperating witnesses" of Mafia stool pigeons.



https://thenewyorkmafia.com/2021/05/12/what-truly-constitutes-a-mafia-member-as-a-rat/

None of them get wacked they just make money off of Podcasts and interviews. Now Sammy the Head Rat is going to be on a reality show . What's to stop them anymore.?


Of course. I totally agree. Where's the fear? Where's the embarrassment over their "loss of honor" in their neighborhoods? Where's the outrage from their blood families and personal fiends? All of those things were detractors in the "good old days" from becoming a rat.

Where I grew up in NYC. In the era that I grew up in. It was probably one of the most dishonorable things any guy could become. To be known as a "stool pigeon" or "rat" was almost a fate worse than death for most guys.

It was a very rare occourance. Nowadays? Ho-Hum, its just no big deal anymore. Crazy, yet true.


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