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Re: Crime reporter gunned down in Amsterdam [Re: Strax] #1015501
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Originally Posted by Strax
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I think so they traced the flight car all the way to The Hague area thanks to all the surveillance cameras in Amsterdam and at the highways. Doesn't seem it was too well prepared.



Well hopefully some of these kids agrees to talk , if faced with long prison time , so we can know whole story behind this.


Maybe they used encrypted phones a huge amount of intercepted, encrypted messages form the basis of the Marengo trial.


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The alleged shooter.



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That guy looks like someone you would see in a terrorist organization, minus the uniform they wear, very disturbing.

What is the Crown saying about this? Queen Beatrix, Queen Maxima and King Willem Alexander? Any statements?

You see this growing everywhere in the West and Europe.
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Is like they are now combining been a terrorist with Narcotics, it’s very prevalent in Canada 🇨🇦, just look at the majority of Biker Clubs, it’s all made of mud!

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It’s hard to believe that White Europe has let something like this persist.

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The King and Queen have made several statements on a state visit in Berlin, De Vries has been very critical about the monarchy but in this sad period they can bring the country together we are still in shock.

The other suspect Kamil E.

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Originally Posted by Hollander
The King and Queen have made several statements on a state visit in Berlin, De Vries has been very critical about the monarchy but in this sad period they can bring the country together we are still in shock.

The other suspect Kamil E.

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Thank you, I’m supportive of the Crown, so I’m bias. Best wishes to yourself and all of the Netherlands.

My grandfather was Dutch/German, kinda like King Willem himself lol, so I find it very disturbing when stuff like this occurs.

Is the House of Orange part of the Church of England aka Anglican? Reason being is there is already a law in the Commonwealth in Australia 🇦🇺, that label biker clubs terrorist because of the growing trend of accepting members from countries where terrorist come from or terrorist themselves.

https://law.unimelb.edu.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0008/1586987/382Ananian-WelshandWilliams2.pdf

Netherlands recently banned Hells Angels correct? From my observation it is exactly what has and is happening in Canada 🇨🇦, don’t be surprised if shit like this happens there.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48443602

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Additional my other grandfather flew the Lancaster for the RAF in WW2, he was shot down on his last mission and had to parachute 🪂, ended up getting captured by the Reich. He escaped twice while as a POW, and was eventually liberated by the Russians.

He was given a Nazi Dagger to bring back to the West, he never mentioned who he met, but spoke of Paperclip, Pope Pius 12, the rat lines and Argentina. The Russians admitted to him what was going on regarding the Mongrel hoard from the East that was raping it’s way to Berlin, the Americans still deny that they did the same after landing in Sicily.

After being brought to American, where we have family in Detroit, he moved to Hamilton. Funny enough, I have Sicilian family from Railway Street in Hamilton, same place as the Papalia. As well as a large Racalmutese community in Detroit and Harry Bowman..

Queen Maxima is from Argentina, as a side note.

Point being people have been talking about an attack from the East since the Reichfurher, but it’s hard to get people to acknowledge that the same disease is already in the West, from my observations it being cultivated in Canada. The country is basically a Communist/Islamic Terrorist State working in harmony with the bikers and cops.

It’s like the team that did 911 can finally be identified and liquidated, once and forever.

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We still have Kings and Queens? What kind of fucked up world is this, and you're bitching about organized crime.

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Dutch journalist shot in the head multiple time. Greek crime reporter killed in Athens 2-3 months ago. Caruana blown up in Malta 3-4 years ago. Some other Slovakian journalist murdered 3-4 years ago.

So these events are few, but they happen. And they send messages to other investigative journalists (and there aren't many good ones out there, especially ones who specialise in crime/corruption), to shut their mouths.

For ever shooting event, there are hundreds of cases of threats, intimidation etc on journalists. Usually threats are enough to quiet ppl.

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The Netherlands has also become the warehouse for the Italian mafia, most likely they are not involved in local incidents here but in the background they are there.


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Originally Posted by Hollander
The Netherlands has also become the warehouse for the Italian mafia, most likely they are not involved in local incidents here but in the background they are there.


There is no way 'Ndrangheta would do something like this,but i think they were behind that murder of Slovakian journalist few years ago.


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Originally Posted by Strax
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The Netherlands has also become the warehouse for the Italian mafia, most likely they are not involved in local incidents here but in the background they are there.


There is no way 'Ndrangheta would do something like this,but i think they were behind that murder of Slovakian journalist few years ago.


No not the Calabrians I was more thinking about the most wanted fugitive Raffaele Imperiale close associate of Taghi and Rico the Chilean and those Bosnian guys you know who I'm talking about.

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Suspect turns out to be a cousin of Jaouad W, a leader 'murder gang' Taghi.

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Originally Posted by Hollander

No not the Calabrians I was more thinking about the most wanted fugitive Raffaele Imperiale close associate of Taghi and Rico the Chilean and those Bosnian guys you know who I'm talking about.


Montenegro Kavacki Clan also have presence in Amsterdam , Radoje Zvicer's(Leader of Kavacki clan) cousin is leader there , they stole 100 kilos from him ,that lead to shooting of Jovo Djurovic in Amsterdam , order and weapons came from Montenegro but shooter was Moroccan.

Well a lot groups have presence in Amsterdam/Rotterdam because of ports, somehow they all manage to work together.


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Originally Posted by Strax
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No not the Calabrians I was more thinking about the most wanted fugitive Raffaele Imperiale close associate of Taghi and Rico the Chilean and those Bosnian guys you know who I'm talking about.


Montenegro Kavacki Clan also have presence in Amsterdam , Radoje Zvicer's(Leader of Kavacki clan) cousin is leader there , they stole 100 kilos from him ,that lead to shooting of Jovo Djurovic in Amsterdam , order and weapons came from Montenegro but shooter was Moroccan.

Well a lot groups have presence in Amsterdam/Rotterdam because of ports, somehow they all manage to work together.


Yes all the major drug traffickers in the world have a presence here, asians, colombians, mexicans.


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Originally Posted by Hollander


Yes all the major drug traffickers in the world have a presence here, asians, colombians, mexicans.


Very similar situation like in Spain. I don't know what is going on in Belgium,they also have major ports there.


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Antwerp is huge hub also, Antwerp/Rotterdam ports it's the same one big area although two countries.


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Family: 'Peter's situation is unchanged at the moment'

The health situation of Peter R. de Vries is unchanged, his family informed RTL Boulevard. The crime reporter was shot in Amsterdam on Tuesday evening.

"Much remains uncertain," the De Vries family shares in a statement. “It will take time before there is more clarity. We are happy with the good care he is receiving.”

De Vries was shot in the center of Amsterdam on Tuesday evening when he walked back to his car after the recordings of RTL Boulevard . Shortly afterwards, he was taken to hospital.

The two men suspected of involvement in the shooting of the crime reporter will be arraigned Friday. The examining magistrate then determines whether the detention will last longer.


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Strong criticism of Italy prosecutor: 'The Netherlands naive about organized crime'

Nicola Gratteri is Italy's most feared crimefighter. He leads the mega-trial against the 'Ndrangheta, the mafia of southern Italy. He has also heard about the attack on Peter R. de Vries, in which a suspect is said to have ties to organized crime. 'The Netherlands underestimates the mafia'.

"European countries have no idea what a mafioso, a serious criminal, really is and what they are capable of," says Nicola Gratteri. He speaks with RTL Nieuws at a heavily guarded location that is kept secret until the last minute.

'Secure Peter R. de Vries'
"Heavier penalties, better equipment, more far-reaching regulations and more manpower", according to Gratteri, these are "the Italian lessons" that the Netherlands can learn.

Gratteri also has a clear opinion about the attack on Peter R. de Vries. "He should have been protected," the Italian prosecutor said resolutely. "It's a very serious matter. We're talking about freedom of thought, expression, democracy… About civilization." Peter R. de Vries also refused security himself.

'Nobody shuts my mouth'
Gratteri himself is heavily protected: he has at least ten bodyguards around him. For 30 years, 7 days a week, 24 hours a day. It is the price he pays for his fight against the mafia. "I feel mentally free, that's the most important thing," he says. "I sacrificed my physical freedom a long time ago, but there is no one to shut me up."

Gratteri's sacrifices also pay off. At the beginning of this year, 355 suspects were brought to trial. They belong to the 'Ndrangheta, the mafia of southern Italy. This mega-trial is the greatest success of Gratteri's career.

One man committed a hundred murders
Gratteri uses key witnesses. "After many preliminary conversations and tracing the circles they are in, I will talk to them. Recently I spoke with a criminal who is suspected of about a hundred murders. He tried to fake us with sophisticated lies. You have to get through that. can sting."

After those conversations, the regretful optants must be in isolation for at least six months. If they still cooperate after that, there is only talk of a reduction in sentence, sometimes up to about 50 percent, according to the public prosecutor.

The Netherlands is also struggling with organized crime, after successive attacks on the brother (Redouan B.), the lawyer (Derk Wiersum) and the confidential adviser (Peter R. de Vries) of crown witness Nabil B. According to Gratteri, the problem is that drug violence and threats in The Netherlands are too often seen as isolated incidents, not as a systematic problem.

And that problem, he says, will not just go away. “Not only is the Netherlands logistically interesting for organized crime – with transit ports such as Rotterdam and Amsterdam in the cocaine trade – there is also a lot of laundering through the opening of restaurants and hotels. The Dutch system also benefits, which is why it is so difficult to stop."

"The Netherlands underestimates the mafia," says Gratteri. He thinks it should be made more difficult for prisoners. There is a difference in mentality in that regard. This turned out to be the case with an Italian drug trafficker who was in a Dutch cell. "He called his wife and said he didn't want to come to Italy. He was fine in the cell, there he had everything he needs."


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Several people are calling for the secret services and army to get involved in the fight against organized crime.


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Originally Posted by Hollander
Several people are calling for the secret services and army to get involved in the fight against organized crime.



Secret services probably already know everything , they just don't give a fuck or even maybe they are behind some of them , at least that's how its here in eastern EU.


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Originally Posted by Strax
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Several people are calling for the secret services and army to get involved in the fight against organized crime.



Secret services probably already know everything , they just don't give a fuck or even maybe they are behind some of them , at least that's how its here in eastern EU.


Yes I agree the Dutch system benefits from the drug trade, there are also calls for a kind of DEA here.


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Honestly, are they even sure Taghi is behind this? Seems like the media focus their entire attention on that one guy.
The term "Mocro maffia" also paints a distorted picture. Makes it look as if it's just Moroccans that are behind the cocaine trade in the Netherlands. Moroccans, Surinamese, Antilleans, Dutch Travellers, bikers, old school Dutch "penoze" guys from the city...they're all involved.

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Originally Posted by TheKillingJoke
Honestly, are they even sure Taghi is behind this? Seems like the media focus their entire attention on that one guy.
The term "Mocro maffia" also paints a distorted picture. Makes it look as if it's just Moroccans that are behind the cocaine trade in the Netherlands. Moroccans, Surinamese, Antilleans, Dutch Travellers, bikers, old school Dutch "penoze" guys from the city...they're all involved.


Yes the term is wrong and less used nowadays instead they use the term Cocaine Mafia.

The top journalist, the mafia boss and the gunman: Dutch fear the rise of ‘narco crime’

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-the-gunman-dutch-fear-the-rise-of-narco


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At the top of the Taghi group there are the Surinamese brothers Mao and Mario R.. They all grew up together in a youth gang called Bad Boys.


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Originally Posted by Hollander
At the top of the Taghi group there are the Surinamese brothers Mao and Mario R.. They all grew up together in a youth gang called Bad Boys.


Yes, the "Bad Boys" core in Utrecht who later got into organized crime with Taghi consisted of three Moroccan guys (including Taghi), five Surinamese guys, two Antillean guys and two local Dutch guys.

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How did Taghi and his group managed to become so powerful in Holland? Or are they just most violent one and get most media attention ?


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His group filled a void when a few high profile cocaine trafficking groups in Amsterdam fell out.

You had the group around Gwenette Martha and the group around Samir Bouyakhrichan and Houssine Ait S. that got a lot of coverage and were consistently falling out with other groups, domestic and international.
Martha fell out with some of his former lieutenants (especially the Moroccan members of his organization), no longer had the respect of the Surinamese and Antillean gang members and Moluccan bikers (Martha for the longest time favored working with Moroccan guys as opposed to the guys he grew up with in South Amsterdam) and on top of that he was regarded as untrustworthy by his main suppliers (the Dawes crime family from Nottingham) when things went wrong with a few shipments and the Nottingham guys brought heat on them in the Netherlands because Martha didn't set things right himself. He also lost the backing of the major old school Amsterdam penoze guys like Danny K. In short, Martha's organization was in shambles.
Bouyakhrichan also started getting into wars with other groups, most notably a group of Brabant Travellers from Breda around John G. Bouyakhrichan did a lot of business with the Irish right when the Irish groups in Dublin were warring with each other; which also made him a mark.

Taghi's group was one of the groups that were getting stronger in silence when the high profile groups were getting into constant battles. Taghi also had a solid network; he had a group of close youth friends from different backgrounds that also brought him into connection with other groups, he solidified his bond with the family of Said R. (which is a large clan with strong criminal connections all the way in Morocco) and formed a partnership with Rico, who had a lot of contacts himself. Rico always had strong connections with Ajax hooligan groups and in turn also with old school Dutch Penoze guys.

In short, Taghi's group got this strong, because they had a stable and large network in a time when the organizations of high profile cocaine traffickers were in shambles.

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Originally Posted by TheKillingJoke
His group filled a void when a few high profile cocaine trafficking groups in Amsterdam fell out.

You had the group around Gwenette Martha and the group around Samir Bouyakhran and Houssine Ait S. that got a lot of coverage and were consistently falling out with other groups, domestic and international.
Martha fell out with some of his former lieutenants (especially the Moroccan members of his organization), no longer had the respect of the Surinamese and Antillean gang members and Moluccan bikers (Martha for the longest time favored working with Moroccan guys as opposed to the guys he grew up with in South Amsterdam) and on top of that he was regarded as untrustworthy by his main suppliers (the Dawes crime family from Nottingham) when things went wrong with a few shipments and the Nottingham guys brought heat on them in the Netherlands because Martha didn't set things right himself. He also lost the backing of the major old school Amsterdam penoze guys like Danny K. In short, Martha's organization was in shambles.
Bouyakhrichan also started getting into wars with other groups, most notably a group of Brabant Travellers from Breda around John G. Bouyakhrichan did a lot of business with the Irish right when the Irish groups in Dublin were warring with each other; which also made him a mark.

Taghi's group was one of the groups that were getting stronger in silence when the high profile groups were getting into constant battles. Taghi also had a solid network; he had a group of close youth friends from different backgrounds that also brought him into connection with other groups, he solidified his bond with the family of Said R. (which is a large clan with strong criminal connections all they way in Morocco) and formed a partnership with Rico, who had a lot of contacts himself. Rico always had strong connections with Ajax hooligan groups and in turn also with old school Dutch Penoze guys.

In short, Taghi's group got this strong, because they had a stable and large network in a time when the organizations of high profile cocaine traffickers were in shambles.


Good explanation TKJ, two lieutenants of Houssine Ait S. were recently arrested in Spain and Belgium who were behind a murder plot in Berlin against Naoufal Fassih who worked closely with the Taghi people. Houssine is one of the few not in prison or dead.

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Thank you for so detailed explanation , how is Taghi's group right now after all the arrests and heat they brought on themselves ?


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07/11/21 06:43 PM
07/11/21 06:43 PM
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Police corruption is also a problem for example one senior police officer had to come often to the basement of Minos Pallos, a Greek restaurant in Nieuwegein. It turns out that the agent has been selling information from police systems to the gang since 2013.


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