I was wondering if yall know about war or confrontation between non-italian organizations that went to war or had beef against a mafia family in nothern america or even europe.
War or beef that involved shooting or even murders on both ends?

Most of what I find on the net are war between the Italian Mafia and the Irish Mob.
And in Canada, Montreal, some articles about tension between the bloods and the Montreal Mafia.

Do y’all got infos ?

There was the Nardi/Greene vs Cleveland Mob in the 1970s

https://gangsterreport.com/the-clev...ians-in-1970s-lost-life-limbs-in-battle/

The War Westies againt Genovese for the control of the Javits Centre in the 1970s

https://gangsterreport.com/mafia-hit-list-the-top-5-westies-irish-mob-murders/

Michey Cohen challenged the weak L.A. Mafia during the 1940s and 1950s

Thanks for the infos

In the 1980s the Sicilian Mafia fought against the Stidda (Star) a gang made by mafiosi that was shelved and inducted own men for control parts of the Sicily where the mafia had a little presence.

During the Melbourne Gangland war in Australia the ndrangheta and the Carlton Crew (an italian crew) fought against the Moran family (Irish) and Carl Williams crew.

Chicago Policy Wars:the Outfit against black leader Theodore (Tough Teddy) Roe

https://gangsterreport.com/chicago-policy-wars-the-outfit-numbers-takeover-timeline-momo-makes-good/

Look like the irish got an long rivalry history with the italian mob

Jose Miguel Battle and the Corporation, Harlem, 1980s.

The last was the Rudaj Organization an albanian crew that tried to take the gambling rackets of the luchesses and Gambinos.Arnold Squitieri went at a meeting with 20 made men and Rudaj (the meeting was in a gas station) said that theif the dagos would do anything he will blow the whole gas station,anyway was disbanded by FBI in 2004.

The Montreal gangland war is a different thing,after Vito Rizzuto went away everyone try to fill the void and Italians,Irishs,biker,black gangs start killing each others,was anarchy not a clare plane.No the Rizzuto survived son is making bussinesses with blacks and bikers because haven't the same power of his father.

The Irish Mafia wasn't organizated like the mob so they must follow the orders of the Italians;Bulger was smart to use a FBI agent to weak the mafia but never went openly against the Patriarcas.

Prior to the Valachi's testimony, no one knew what kind of group they were up fighting. Vincent Coll and his gang, which included Italians was one who was at war with them.

No other group would go to war with the Italians they do business with them. Even the Irish and Italians worked together in the early days of New York.

The Nigerian Mafia are growing in Castel Volturno and in some cases stopped to pay tribute to the Casalesi clan and this would led to a future war.

Those Nigerians will never be as powerful as the Camorra. They will never control the garbage industry to the point that mountains of trash are piled up to the sky, for example, or break bread with powerful politicians or control cities to the point that they're treated like a mayor.

The Rizzutos have always done business with the blacks and bikers at least since the 1990s. That's the name of the game, do business with anyone to make money has nothing to do with a loss of power.

The Nigerians are the 60% of Castel Volturno inhabitants,they control the prostitutions and many drug plazas,that made many cash,for the mayor,if you have the 60% of the votes you can say to the future mayor what would do,for now they are partner of casalesi but in the future they will do their own rackets without pay nobody.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03...ers-for-nigerian-mafia-in-italy/12033684

In a ruined city on the Italian coast, the Nigerian mafia is muscling in on the old mob
Foreign Correspondent
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By Emma Alberici and Giulia Sirignani in Italy
Posted MonMonday 16 MarMarch 2020 at 7:47pm, updated WedWednesday 11 NovNovember 2020 at 4:29am

"This is a beautiful place. Or at least, it was a beautiful place."

Vincenzo Schiavone stands on the shoreline of Castel Volturno, gesturing over sparkling Mediterranean waters to the resort towns of the Amalfi coast. Just offshore are the islands of Procida and Vivara, and then Ischia: "Very beautiful … the thermal spas, the gardens, the lushness."

The contrast with Castel Volturno could not be more stark. Just metres away are open sewers where mangy dogs poke at rancid piles of garbage strewn across the main street. Along the coast, 12,000 waterfront homes are crumbling into the sea. Broken slabs of concrete are piled up on the sand, their tangled steel reinforcement protruding like rusty bones.

Castel Volturno, on the ancient coastal road between Rome and Naples, was once a seaside playground for the southern Italian elite. Now it is a lawless wasteland abandoned by the state.

According to Italy's anti-mafia agency, it is the European headquarters of the Nigerian mafia.

The seaside village's plunge into chaos has allowed this new mafia to take root amid the decay. Having disguised themselves among the migrants and refugees crowding boats from Libya, Nigerian crime lords have carved out a lucrative trade in people smuggling, drug running and prostitution. Even the local mafia fear them.
'An African city in Europe'

Flanked by his state-appointed police escorts, Mr Schiavone is clear about who is to blame for Castel Volturno's dire state: the Camorra, one of Italy's old mafia clans with its power base in nearby Naples.

"They were the beginning of the deterioration," he says. "For this, you have to give them credit."

In the 1970s, he moved here with his wife as a young surgeon, drawn to the beauty of what was then a beachside paradise. Mr Schiavone now owns the local hospital and is spending $130 million upgrading the site. When the Camorra found out, they wanted a cut.

The last time he refused their demands, they blew up his garage with his car inside it. For the last 12 years he has lived under constant police guard, fearing the vengeance of the Camorra.

Until the 1960s, Castel Volturno was known mostly for its tomatoes and buffalo mozzarella. Then the Camorra put it on the map for all the wrong reasons. Almost overnight, the mafia razed a coastal pine forest along the water's edge and built an 800,000-square-metre development without official authorisation.

Prosecutors eventually seized thousands of illegal homes and members of the Camorra went to jail for breaching planning and environmental laws.

For a time the buildings were left standing, unoccupied and increasingly decrepit. Then, in 1980, an earthquake outside Naples left 250,000 people homeless. The government bussed them to Castel Volturno to live in the vacant homes.

Many local residents fled and when the earthquake victims eventually left too, the state chose not to invest in the rehabilitation of Castel Volturno. The illegal buildings were knocked down and, shockingly, the organised crime family behind the original, illegal development was awarded the contract to rebuild.

Today, the town stands as a testament to perpetual neglect. Real estate windows spruik absolute beachfront properties for less than 15,000 euros ($27,000).

"You can't tell people a place like this exists in Italy," says Roberto Saviano. "No-one would believe it … a whole city that's been constructed illegally."

Mr Saviano has been studying the changes in Castel Volturno with the same forensic obsession that saw him forced into hiding in 2007 after the publication of his global bestseller, Gomorrah. He's one of 20 Italian writers who are now under 24-hour police guard thanks to their mafia exposes.

The Nigerian mafia has come to Italy with a speed and force that's stunned even local mafia bosses, he says. Castel Volturno, where Mr Saviano once holidayed as a child, is now "an African city in Europe … culturally African". Half of the 50,000 residents are African, many of them undocumented. They find a place to hide here, but without official documentation or rights, many are easy prey for ruthless Nigerian mafia bosses.

"They immediately risk falling into the mobster net," he says. "The crime boss maybe says, 'If you don't have a house, I'll give you one for a little favour'. Then it's something more, something more."

This nominally remains a Camorra territory, but the old mob has learnt it pays to work with the Nigerians.

In 2008, the Camorra waged a bloody turf war on their upstart rivals, killing six Africans in a hail of bullets. After that showdown, they struck a truce. The Nigerian mafia is allowed to ply its illicit trade with the Camorra's permission while giving them a cut of the takings.

"That area was handed over by the Italian networks to the Nigerians to manage," says Mr Saviano. "It was an admission first and foremost that it was no longer useful for the Camorra Casalesi clan to command street to street in Castel Volturno, because there's an enormous African community that could be better managed by the Nigerian mafia."

It's an arrangement the Nigerian mafia have worked out with the homegrown mob in other parts of Italy too.

A 2017 investigation published by the Cambridge Centre for Applied Research into human trafficking reported a faction of the Nigerian mafia, known as Black Axe, had "negotiated a deal with Cosa Nostra bosses in Sicily, buying the rights to operate in designated areas on the island".

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I've read that article a long time ago. It says that they work TOGETHER. Ethnic groups aren't going to war like that in real life. I haven't seen a single case where Nigerians killed Camorra mobsters, but we do have the Castel Volturno massacre where the Camorra whacked a bunch of Nigerians. Until some news come out where Nigerians do the same to the Camorra I'm not believing that they're taking over. Also, Nigerians are being used as a scapegoat, like other migrants, for the real powers.

No Nigerians were killed in this massacre. The Camorra killed africans civilians coming from Togo, Liberia and Ghana.

The target was a camorrista that the Setola crew thinked was an informant the other killed was poor innocent people.

For real 😧
Furio_from_naples love talking to you, always giving some good infos

Immigrant groups will never be stronger or take over from domestic groups. Especially not in Italy,Russia and other places where organized crime is deeply rooted.

I don't think Nigerians are going to war with Casalesi or vice versa.

Nigerian criminals are not dumb and - contrary to the bullshit media articles that always want to paint a new migrant group as a "major threat" - are not so quick to resort to violence. If anything, Camorra groups are generally speaking more violent than the Nigerians are.

Nigerians are the most numerous group in Castel Volturno though, which is a small town of about 20.000 inhabitants. Prositution and drug dealing is entirely under the control of Nigerian gangs. Whoever is the majority in an area, will be the one in power of local affairs. I don't really think Camorra cares all that much about Castel Volturno anymore.

Togo, Ghana, Liberia, whatever, they still sent a message to Africans. Those Nigerians can have their little shitbag street rackets like drugs and prostitution while the Camorra controls the economy of the region and breaks bread with politicians.

You often see these articles pop up every now and then, suggesting that some other ethnic group is taking over from the Mafia in Italy. One recently came out saying that the Albanians are taking over Ndrangheta territory in Calabria. Keep dreaming. Most of what you see taking place these days are alliances, but lots of idiots in the public think that there's some kind of gang war going down.

It sounds like the script from Gomorrah.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yapeXgXTstI

Lol yeah there's no Albanian OC activity in Calabria. It's all just sensationalist journalism.

Northern Italy is a different area in that regard. Cities like Milan and Turin are open territory. The Mafia is there, as are Ndrangheta, Camorra and SCU. And yes, Albanians, Russians, Serbs/Montenegrins, Nigerians, Chinese, North Africans (Moroccans, Algerians and Tunisians) are all operating there to some degree - but nobody is "taking over" the other. Inter-ethnic gang fights are largely a movie/TV/Grand Theft Auto thing. Especially over here in Europe, I have not yet to come across a major gang war between groups of different backgrounds. Everybody cleans their own house.

Well the Gomorrah is based on true events , Casalesi clan and later in that episode when they kill a bunch of Africans is also based on true events (Castel Volturno massacre)

That’s what I was inferring, didn’t know how accurate the portrayal in the show was, thanks!

In Milan there are also the MS13. Time ago 2 men almost cut an arms of a conductor who asked to see the ticket.