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Sammy says Gotti paid Ab for... #1006980
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4 hits- 25k each

He wanted Danny Marino (Sammy says unsure why), Joe Watts (learned Watts recorded some of their calls), Frankie loc (based on the book), and Sammy himself

They never came to fruition though ...

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Fuck Sammy Gravano. No one believes any of this. Joe Watts is no rat

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Originally Posted by ralphie_cifaretto
Fuck Sammy Gravano. No one believes any of this. Joe Watts is no rat



Joe watts was 100% an fbi informant and Danny Marino plotted with Chin and Gaspipe to kill Gotti


A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
Re: Sammy says Gotti paid Ab for... [Re: Louiebynochi] #1007013
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Originally Posted by Louiebynochi
Originally Posted by ralphie_cifaretto
Fuck Sammy Gravano. No one believes any of this. Joe Watts is no rat



Joe watts was 100% an fbi informant and Danny Marino plotted with Chin and Gaspipe to kill Gotti


What do you think Watts got out of it? Maybe got to keep his fortune?


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Sammy also said Gotti had to pay them for protection in jail, which big man Sammy never paid nobody for protection. The rat was in fucking PC, rat jail. Hahahaha! He's delusional!

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Originally Posted by ColonelReb
Sammy also said Gotti had to pay them for protection in jail, which big man Sammy never paid nobody for protection. The rat was in fucking PC, rat jail. Hahahaha! He's delusional!


Sammy was also in protective custody lol.


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He’s not saying Gotti was in PC- think you read that wrong he was referring to Sammy

Re: Sammy says Gotti paid Ab for... [Re: Tonytough] #1007024
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People slate Gotti but if he was on the streets Watts and Marino would be in hiding! They were all looking to whack John Jr but only if his dad lost his appeal, that’s how afraid of him they were

If he was getting out they knew they’d be sealing their fates. No different to when Joey started making moves against Nicky once he was locked up for life

Re: Sammy says Gotti paid Ab for... [Re: Tonytough] #1007026
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The Aryans rule the prisons not the streets,no way that a hit ordered in prison would carried in the NY streets or in the witsec. Maybe Frankie Loc could be in danger,but I dont think it.

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Originally Posted by ColonelReb
Sammy also said Gotti had to pay them for protection in jail, which big man Sammy never paid nobody for protection. The rat was in fucking PC, rat jail. Hahahaha! He's delusional!


Sammy was in rat jail the first time ..... but was he the second time with the drug charge in AZ ?


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Re: Sammy says Gotti paid Ab for... [Re: Tonytough] #1007032
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Sammy said he was disappointed Gotti paid for protection... Thats absurd, Gotti was 60 years old. If Im locked up in my 50's and a boss, there is no way im fighting unless I get jumped. All important guys in prison have bodyguards.

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Originally Posted by Lenox
Sammy said he was disappointed Gotti paid for protection... Thats absurd, Gotti was 60 years old. If Im locked up in my 50's and a boss, there is no way im fighting unless I get jumped. All important guys in prison have bodyguards.



No doubt.... ten times over


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Originally Posted by Serpiente
Originally Posted by Lenox
Sammy said he was disappointed Gotti paid for protection... Thats absurd, Gotti was 60 years old. If Im locked up in my 50's and a boss, there is no way im fighting unless I get jumped. All important guys in prison have bodyguards.



No doubt.... ten times over


Nicky Scarfo sr that was the little Gotti of Philly paid the mexican mafia when was in terre haute prison,Leonetti said that he call them "his pistoleros".

Re: Sammy says Gotti paid Ab for... [Re: Tonytough] #1007040
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It all depends where someone is placed. If a prison gang runs the prison, you pay protection or a tax on commissary, libary, phone usage ect for the privilege of using those service. All prisons are different. John Gotti paid for protection to the AB, until he had other members in prison with him where he felt he did not need their protection and relied on his guys. West coast members usually hooked up with La Eme and Nuestra Familia as that is more easier, especially when the prison is segregated into sections and no that is not the Warden or Prison's doing but the inmates doing. Whites with Whites, Blacks with Blacks, Hispanics with Hispanics, Natives with Natives. Italians get grouped with the Hispanics, just how those prisons are run, but every prison is different.


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Re: Sammy says Gotti paid Ab for... [Re: Louiebynochi] #1007043
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Originally Posted by Louiebynochi
Originally Posted by ralphie_cifaretto
Fuck Sammy Gravano. No one believes any of this. Joe Watts is no rat



Joe watts was 100% an fbi informant and Danny Marino plotted with Chin and Gaspipe to kill Gotti


Oh yeah? Show me a 302. Show me any proof besides your stupid fucking mouth. The man has been in prison since 2008.

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It's hard for me to believe Watts is /was an informant. He was a known heavy shooter, if they had him informing it would be on the murders , not him doing a long bid


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Originally Posted by ralphie_cifaretto
Originally Posted by Louiebynochi
Originally Posted by ralphie_cifaretto
Fuck Sammy Gravano. No one believes any of this. Joe Watts is no rat



Joe watts was 100% an fbi informant and Danny Marino plotted with Chin and Gaspipe to kill Gotti


Oh yeah? Show me a 302. Show me any proof besides your stupid fucking mouth. The man has been in prison since 2008.


Why are you so angry?You need to get laid, you’d feel better .....it’s a well known fact for about 8 months he was an fbi confidential informant. This came out in the mid 1990s.....it’s how he got 6 years for first degree murder for killing William ciccone even w Dom borghese as a witness against him. Jerry Capeci himself reported on this... he was mostly giving up info on Gotti Sr who was already doing life and they used some of the info to keep him in lockdown in Marion along w the info they were getting from Lewis Kasman....










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A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
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Originally Posted by ralphie_cifaretto
Originally Posted by Louiebynochi
Originally Posted by ralphie_cifaretto
Fuck Sammy Gravano. No one believes any of this. Joe Watts is no rat



Joe watts was 100% an fbi informant and Danny Marino plotted with Chin and Gaspipe to kill Gotti


Oh yeah? Show me a 302. Show me any proof besides your stupid fucking mouth. The man has been in prison since 2008

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. Ralph cool it. No need to attack anyone

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I have the article in pdf it’s not allowing me to attach it,saying it’s to big a file but I can email it to anyone interested....

I’ll include the highlights here:
“The setting of the trial date was a charade,in which Watts, his lawyer F.Lee Bailey federal prosecutors Mearns and Laura Ward played roles”

“In secret meetings including with Gambino Squad Supervisor Bruce Mouw, Watts agreed to a deal in which Watts would work as an informer for no jail time”

“Sources say Watts provided key information to the FBI.he detailed how Gotti Sr sent messages to his acting boss son Junior Gotti”

“Once Watts told the FBI he spoke to the elder Gotti for 15mins on a phone call after Gotti Sr called an attorney”

“Watts identified 3 capos-Peter Gotti, Jackie D”Amico and Nicholas Corozzo-who assisted Junior and met regularly with the Genovese Crime Family to iron out disputes over Joint Rackets”


“After a prolonged dispute over the deal ,Watts stopped informing and went to trial”







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A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
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Sammy just said that the books were reopened in 1975.

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Originally Posted by Louiebynochi
I have the article in pdf it’s not allowing me to attach it,saying it’s to big a file but I can email it to anyone interested....

I’ll include the highlights here:
“The setting of the trial date was a charade,in which Watts, his lawyer F.Lee Bailey federal prosecutors Mearns and Laura Ward played roles”

“In secret meetings including with Gambino Squad Supervisor Bruce Mouw, Watts agreed to a deal in which Watts would work as an informer for no jail time”

“Sources say Watts provided key information to the FBI.he detailed how Gotti Sr sent messages to his acting boss son Junior Gotti”

“Once Watts told the FBI he spoke to the elder Gotti for 15mins on a phone call after Gotti Sr called an attorney”

“Watts identified 3 capos-Peter Gotti, Jackie D”Amico and Nicholas Corozzo-who assisted Junior and met regularly with the Genovese Crime Family to iron out disputes over Joint Rackets”


“After a prolonged dispute over the deal ,Watts stopped informing and went to trial”



lol This has been discussed so many times over the years. Jerry Capeci recanted this article almost as soon as it came out. It was based on false information. Even the FBI agents involved in Watts' case came out and said it. Not to mention, the Gambinos investigated this thoroughly. Up until his arrest in 2008, he was often seen in the company of the then Gambino leadership, specifically Danny Marino, Jo Jo Corozzo and Lenny DiMaria.

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Originally Posted by ralphie_cifaretto
Originally Posted by Louiebynochi
I have the article in pdf it’s not allowing me to attach it,saying it’s to big a file but I can email it to anyone interested....

I’ll include the highlights here:
“The setting of the trial date was a charade,in which Watts, his lawyer F.Lee Bailey federal prosecutors Mearns and Laura Ward played roles”

“In secret meetings including with Gambino Squad Supervisor Bruce Mouw, Watts agreed to a deal in which Watts would work as an informer for no jail time”

“Sources say Watts provided key information to the FBI.he detailed how Gotti Sr sent messages to his acting boss son Junior Gotti”

“Once Watts told the FBI he spoke to the elder Gotti for 15mins on a phone call after Gotti Sr called an attorney”

“Watts identified 3 capos-Peter Gotti, Jackie D”Amico and Nicholas Corozzo-who assisted Junior and met regularly with the Genovese Crime Family to iron out disputes over Joint Rackets”


“After a prolonged dispute over the deal ,Watts stopped informing and went to trial”



lol This has been discussed so many times over the years. Jerry Capeci recanted this article almost as soon as it came out. It was based on false information. Even the FBI agents involved in Watts' case came out and said it. Not to mention, the Gambinos investigated this thoroughly. Up until his arrest in 2008, he was often seen in the company of the then Gambino leadership, specifically Danny Marino, Jo Jo Corozzo and Lenny DiMaria.


This was never recanted and is why Junior Gotti was snitching on Watts in the proffer and FBI agents do not come out and confirm or deny someone is an informant. There not allowed to ,now would they lie to protect an informant of course but they did not recant this nor confirm or deny this ..... you guys think it’s ok to murder your enemy’s and rob them blind but telling on them to remove the competition is outa bounds lol these guys do it all the time. The jail houses are filled with rats...

Also this information was extremely specific and singular it had to come from Watts
Where there is smoke there’s fire. You know who also had them being called a snitch in article that included extremely specific singular information Jackie Presser...

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A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
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It was recanted!!! Not only that, even John Gotti, Jr. has doubted the Watts story. Why the fuck do you think the Gambinos were still meeting with Watts after this bogus story came out? You think they're cool with rats? This was investigated thoroughly. F. Lee Bailey has denied this, Bruce Mouw has denied this, and of course Watts himself.

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Originally Posted by ColonelReb
Sammy just said that the books were reopened in 1975

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. Yeah I think they were opened in 75 but they actually inducted new members first in early 76. I think 10 new members per family. Frank Decicco was in the first batch and Sammy was in the next wave of guys later that year. Then they had more in the Spring of 77 with guys like Nick Corozzo, Agro, Demeo, Depalma etc. Then in the Fall of 77 guys like Gotti and Angelo

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Originally Posted by JCrusher
Originally Posted by ColonelReb
Sammy just said that the books were reopened in 1975

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. Yeah I think they were opened in 75 but they actually inducted new members first in early 76. I think 10 new members per family. Frank Decicco was in the first batch and Sammy was in the next wave of guys later that year. Then they had more in the Spring of 77 with guys like Nick Corozzo, Agro, Demeo, Depalma etc. Then in the Fall of 77 guys like Gotti and Angelo


Gotti was angry that his brother Gene was made before him. lol lol lol

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Originally Posted by furio_from_naples
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Originally Posted by ColonelReb
Sammy just said that the books were reopened in 1975

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. Yeah I think they were opened in 75 but they actually inducted new members first in early 76. I think 10 new members per family. Frank Decicco was in the first batch and Sammy was in the next wave of guys later that year. Then they had more in the Spring of 77 with guys like Nick Corozzo, Agro, Demeo, Depalma etc. Then in the Fall of 77 guys like Gotti and Angelo


Gotti was angry that his brother Gene was made before him. lol lol :lol


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. Yup 😂. But in fairness Gotti was in jail until July 1977 so he probably would have been made in 76 if he was out but yeah according to many he was quite jealous of Gene. Gene was also well liked by pretty much everyone. I bet those three months or so Gotti was paroled and on the street was torture for him since Gene was made and he was not yet lol

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Originally Posted by ralphie_cifaretto
It was recanted!!! Not only that, even John Gotti, Jr. has doubted the Watts story. Why the fuck do you think the Gambinos were still meeting with Watts after this bogus story came out? You think they're cool with rats? This was investigated thoroughly. F. Lee Bailey has denied this, Bruce Mouw has denied this, and of course Watts himself.


Your on an Internet forum trying to act like a tough guy, it makes you look like a little kid that lives in his mothers basement...When is the last time you actually got some pussy? And show me where it was recanted? Wiseguys ignore the truth all the time especially when it comes to someone with big money...Watts or his F Lee Bailey denying he’s a rat means nothing. FF Lee Bailey denied OJ did it! What do you expect him to say that he was a rat for 13 months?

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A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
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Originally Posted by Louiebynochi
Originally Posted by ralphie_cifaretto
It was recanted!!! Not only that, even John Gotti, Jr. has doubted the Watts story. Why the fuck do you think the Gambinos were still meeting with Watts after this bogus story came out? You think they're cool with rats? This was investigated thoroughly. F. Lee Bailey has denied this, Bruce Mouw has denied this, and of course Watts himself.


Your on an Internet forum trying to act like a tough guy, it makes you look like a little kid that lives in his mothers basement...When is the last time you actually got some pussy? And show me where it was recanted? Wiseguys ignore the truth all the time especially when it comes to someone with big money...Watts or his F Lee Bailey denying he’s a rat means nothing. FF Lee Bailey denied OJ did it! What do you expect him to say that he was a rat for 13 months?


I've never claimed to be a tough guy or drowning in pussy like you. Haha why do I get the feeling you're a virgin. What an odd thing to bring up. How old are you? lol

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Originally Posted by JCrusher
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Originally Posted by ColonelReb
Sammy just said that the books were reopened in 1975

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. Yeah I think they were opened in 75 but they actually inducted new members first in early 76. I think 10 new members per family. Frank Decicco was in the first batch and Sammy was in the next wave of guys later that year. Then they had more in the Spring of 77 with guys like Nick Corozzo, Agro, Demeo, Depalma etc. Then in the Fall of 77 guys like Gotti and Angelo


Gotti was angry that his brother Gene was made before him. lol lol :lol


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. Yup 😂. But in fairness Gotti was in jail until July 1977 so he probably would have been made in 76 if he was out but yeah according to many he was quite jealous of Gene. Gene was also well liked by pretty much everyone. I bet those three months or so Gotti was paroled and on the street was torture for him since Gene was made and he was not yet lol


The funny thing is that people still speak highly of Gene and not so much about John

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Originally Posted by ralphie_cifaretto
Originally Posted by Louiebynochi
Originally Posted by ralphie_cifaretto
It was recanted!!! Not only that, even John Gotti, Jr. has doubted the Watts story. Why the fuck do you think the Gambinos were still meeting with Watts after this bogus story came out? You think they're cool with rats? This was investigated thoroughly. F. Lee Bailey has denied this, Bruce Mouw has denied this, and of course Watts himself.


Your on an Internet forum trying to act like a tough guy, it makes you look like a little kid that lives in his mothers basement...When is the last time you actually got some pussy? And show me where it was recanted? Wiseguys ignore the truth all the time especially when it comes to someone with big money...Watts or his F Lee Bailey denying he’s a rat means nothing. FF Lee Bailey denied OJ did it! What do you expect him to say that he was a rat for 13 months?


I've never claimed to be a tough guy or drowning in pussy like you. Haha why do I get the feeling you're a virgin. What an odd thing to bring up. How old are you? lol


I’m 35 and idk bout drowning in pussy but I do bang my girl...


A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
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