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John R0satti / Sta1uppi #1006840
03/09/21 12:34 AM
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*** ADDED after post. no matter what I do, when I enter these 2 men's last names, Gangster BB automatically edits out all the letters to dashes? Can someone tell me why?



John R------ was/is? a very rich and powerful Colombo soldier. It is very hard to find much on him and I couldn't find any threads on him either. I know he made his fortune in the car and restaurant business in New York and Florida and I'm sure found a few other ways to bring in a few side bucks too. He originally built a house in NY which is now considered the most expensive mansion in Brooklyn worth about 30 million. I see he's now advertising himself for private speaking events

https://www.johnrosatti.com/about

S------- was also in the car business and then moved onto building and selling 100 million plus yachts. His net worth has been said to be 500 Million.

I believe both flipped from Orena to Persico during the Colombo war. I've never heard much else about them, tho I did once hear they each used to kick up a flat Million per year one time a year. My question is, are these the 2 richest modern day Mafioso? Also, anything else known on these 2 would be very interesting to me! How did they come up, did they make their bones etc

thanks fellas!


Last edited by GaspipeCasso; 03/09/21 05:14 AM.

Send word to Vladimir that you have his money, that he should come to the club tomorrow. We'll take care of the rest
Re: John R------ and S------- [Re: GaspipeCasso] #1006841
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Not sure why it edited out S-------/R------?

Last edited by GaspipeCasso; 03/09/21 12:40 AM.

Send word to Vladimir that you have his money, that he should come to the club tomorrow. We'll take care of the rest
Re: John R------ and S------- [Re: GaspipeCasso] #1006846
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For starters, stating their full names would help. I don't know why you would do that.

Re: John R------ and S------- [Re: GaspipeCasso] #1006847
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Is this hangman?

Re: John R------ and S------- [Re: DillyDolly] #1006848
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I keep entering their names properly then it edits to that. I can't post a screen shot but I'm gonna try again


Send word to Vladimir that you have his money, that he should come to the club tomorrow. We'll take care of the rest
Re: John R------ and S------- [Re: GaspipeCasso] #1006849
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I think they sue people who associate them with the mafia. The John guy was supplying the Orena side with guns and cars during the war.

Re: John R------ and S------- [Re: GaspipeCasso] #1006853
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Those two are among the richest made members. According to Celebrity Net Worth, JR is worth $200 million.

Re: John R------ and S------- [Re: GaspipeCasso] #1006854
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But I have always heard the richest guy is Salvatore Avellino. A billionaire

Re: John Rosati and S------- [Re: GaspipeCasso] #1006857
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Both John Stalupe and his sometime partner John Ro-sati are two of the richest men in all Cosa Nostra (if not the richest).

The made their fortunes in the automobile business. At one time Stalupe alone owned over 50 new car dealerships (and often the real estate underneath them). Roseti also was of this caliber.

Stalupe later expanded in limousine manufacture, and the manufacture and sales of exotic luxury boats and yachts. He based himself in Miami, where he is to this day.

Rosate also owns (with his son), a huge chain of publicly-held, fast-food burger restaurants that number into the hundreds, and span the eastern seaboard from NY to Florida.

Etc, etc........ they each never broke an egg in their lives. Nor were they ever asked to. The money they brought in was staggering. Nobody was asking them to do more than that.

They are basically legit guys who hold sway because of their 'position'

BTW: I had to modify their surnames to view them. I don't know why this is

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Re: John Rosati and S------- [Re: GaspipeCasso] #1006859
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Rosati

S-------

Re: John Rosati and S------- [Re: GaspipeCasso] #1006862
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He had this done years ago .... once he reached billionaire level !!!


He is nobody to fuck with.


Cackling like a banty Rooster.

I love this," "I just love this."
Re: John Rosati and S------- [Re: GaspipeCasso] #1006863
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Those guys would fly into the compound upstate on there helicopters ....yes plural .... pretty sure thats how cash from gas scam was being moved around.

I can’t go into more detail because the person never unzipped the large black duffel bags (only seen it often ) .... but it was going on many times .... I don’t know if they both did it or if they were on the Orena’s side .... but i do know members of the Persico’s family were transported up there via helicopters during the war .

Last edited by Serpiente; 03/09/21 10:40 AM.

Cackling like a banty Rooster.

I love this," "I just love this."
Re: John Rosati and S------- [Re: GaspipeCasso] #1006865
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They both largely stayed out of the fray. In fact, they jumped on one of their yachts and sailed across the globe while the war was on. They were smart enough to make themselves scarce. They provided $$, but from afar. They were NOT around for any of the warfare. zero!

Re: John Rosati and S------- [Re: GaspipeCasso] #1006867
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Again, another two Columbo guys who are incredibly successful and under the radar. Yet another example to counter of the unwarranted negative reputation the Columbo family gets on this board.

Re: John Rosati and S------- [Re: GaspipeCasso] #1006868
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http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/trumps-connected-donors-209351


Here is an article about both of them and their Trump connection.

Well if they have been friends and supportive of Trump since the 80s then these guys are my heroes...worth hundreds of millions, almost totally legit but were made men? I love it when good ol Italian-Americans motherf*** this country back.

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Re: John Rosati and S------- [Re: GaspipeCasso] #1006870
03/09/21 02:36 PM
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NEPA and now Fla
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Although never 100% proven to be a made member Louis Denaples is a bonafide billionaire and a huge chunk of his early wealth was interwoven into the success of the Bufalino family.

Re: John Rosati and S------- [Re: GaspipeCasso] #1006871
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Yeah that's pretty wicked you can't even use their names, is this something the side automatically does or were they sued or forced to?


Send word to Vladimir that you have his money, that he should come to the club tomorrow. We'll take care of the rest
Re: John Rosati and S------- [Re: DillyDolly] #1006884
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Originally Posted by DillyDolly
For starters, stating their full names would help. I don't know why you would do that.

S------- and Rossatti.

Larry Mazza said Scarpa wanted him to hit one of those guys because they started out on the Orena side. They were made strictly so the family leaders could glom their cash.

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Sta Luppi

Re: John Rosati and S------- [Re: ColonelReb] #1006889
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Originally Posted by ColonelReb
Originally Posted by DillyDolly
For starters, stating their full names would help. I don't know why you would do that.

S------- and Rossatti.

Larry Mazza said Scarpa wanted him to hit one of those guys because they started out on the Orena side. They were made strictly so the family leaders could glom their cash.


1000% - John S started out as a mechanic running a used car lot in Brooklyn. rose to what he became. THATS a success story if ever I heard one

Re: John Rosati and S------- [Re: GaspipeCasso] #1006892
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Those two were fucking around before they got rich .... and there families... brother’s cousins ect. still around it .. these guys never get it out of there system and the money still flows .

The evidence on them could easily be spilled if they ever decided to stop kicking up .


Cackling like a banty Rooster.

I love this," "I just love this."
Re: John Rosati and S------- [Re: GaspipeCasso] #1006911
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yeah they have to be powerful if they have their names even banned from sites. That really surprised me. I wonder who which Captain they are under or if they deal directly with whoever is boss now of the Colombos


Send word to Vladimir that you have his money, that he should come to the club tomorrow. We'll take care of the rest
Re: John Rosati and S------- [Re: GaspipeCasso] #1006912
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They've got a lot of legit power. Mazza didn't include their last name in his book. Basically the only info we have on them is Scarpas and other informants hearsay. The Persicos took great caution to insulate these guys with 2 or 3 layers. Makes sense. Bring them in, insulate them from the rest of the wiseguys and ensure your blood families wealth for multiple generations. Carmines great great grandkids will be set for life because of this move.

Re: John Rosati and S------- [Re: GaspipeCasso] #1006921
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I just don't understand how the Colombo's of all families have these 2 kicking up. The Colombo's have been a joke since Joe Magliocco died or when the name was changed from Profaci to Colombo.

If I wanted to be in that life and the family wanting to make me was the Colombo's I would say no. Even the Bonanno rat family is more prestigious then the Colombo's.

Re: John Rosati and S------- [Re: GaspipeCasso] #1006923
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Maybe that's just what they want everyone to think and the family is smarter than they're being given credit for. So they're basically left alone these days. Could be.

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If the 2 men have no criminal record, and there are only rumors about them being tied to the Columbos, that would account for their names being blocked. They may have sued in the past. Orena and Persico were gangsters and Mafia bosses, the 2 men mentioned are guilty of nothing except being friends with them, for whatever reasons. I think with all the money they have they would have been indicted repeatedly over the years if there were any serious ties to criminal activity, including kicking up money.
I'm amazed at how rumors spread and how people love spreading them.

Re: John Rosati and S------- [Re: GaspipeCasso] #1006927
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They threatened to sue .. and it worked ... don’t know if they did ... but JS is made .

And keeping several people heads above water ... well at least while the boss was alive .


I have no clue if there are criminal records.

But you are correct .... there is no longer innocent until proven guilty that has been gone .

Last edited by Serpiente; 03/10/21 01:57 PM.

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I love this," "I just love this."
Re: John Rosati and S------- [Re: GaspipeCasso] #1006940
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Jon Staluppy, and Jon Rosatty (LOL)

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Originally Posted by Serpiente
Those two were fucking around before they got rich .... and there families... brother’s cousins ect. still around it .. these guys never get it out of there system and the money still flows .


Makes sense. A legitimate guy who already had that kind of money would have to be an absolute idiot to get involved with the mob. They had to be involved on some level before they had serious money.

Originally Posted by Serpiente


The evidence on them could easily be spilled if they ever decided to stop kicking up .


That explains why they stay involved. If it wasn't for something like that holding them there, they could just hire 24/7 security and never have to worry about the Mob. Rats don't even get killed any more, who would hurt a legit business guy these days?

Re: John Rosati and S------- [Re: GaspipeCasso] #1007009
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They were involved earlier in their lives. And just stayed with it as the became richer


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