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Mobsters paid for be made #1004341
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I know that joey d'amico mother that was a shylock gave 50k to Galante for madehis son in the Bonannos that Jerry Angiulo promised 100k a month to Patriarca to be made and that a capo in the Gambinos was killed in the 1960s for selling the membership,anyone know other cases?

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I think Albert Anastasia was selling memberships at one point.

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Re: Mobsters paid for be made [Re: furio_from_naples] #1004347
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Bobby Luisi paid 10k a month to be made

Lenny Munuto offered Arnold Squitieri a million to be made and Arnold turned him down

Al Trucchio basically bought his button. He was a bookmaker who made millions by his late teens..not a. Violent or fistfight type of guy but huge earner...
Tons of wiseguys have bought there badge,it’s much more common today than it used to be. The complexion of the life has changed so much that earning is really the main qualification today...


A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
Re: Mobsters paid for be made [Re: Louiebynochi] #1004350
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Originally Posted by Louiebynochi
Bobby Luisi paid 10k a month to be made

Lenny Munuto offered Arnold Squitieri a million to be made and Arnold turned him down

Al Trucchio basically bought his button. He was a bookmaker who made millions by his late teens..not a. Violent or fistfight type of guy but huge earner...
Tons of wiseguys have bought there badge,it’s much more common today than it used to be. The complexion of the life has changed so much that earning is really the main qualification today...


Correct Louie.

Re: Mobsters paid for be made [Re: furio_from_naples] #1004357
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https://nypost.com/2005/06/20/1m-bid-to-join-mafia-dumbguys-bribe-snubbed/

$1M BID TO JOIN MAFIA – DUMBGUY’S BRIBE SNUBBED

By Murray Weiss

June 20, 2005 | 4:00am

A longtime Mafia associate – frustrated at being passed over for induction into the mob – offered $1 million to the Gambino crime family if they made him a wiseguy, The Post has learned.

Leonard Minuto Sr., 64, whose gambling and loan-sharking operation has earned millions of dollars for the Gambinos, purportedly went from capo to capo and even went to Arnold Squitieri, the family’s acting head, in a bid to get his button.

Despite making what he thought was an offer they couldn’t refuse, the mob family did, snubbing him at every turn, according to sources familiar with thousands of hours of secretly recorded government tapes.

Minuto’s unprecedented million-dollar bid to join the mob surfaced during a recent federal investigation that centers on an iron-nerved undercover FBI agent who infiltrated the Gambino hierarchy for three years.

Using the moniker of Jack Falcone, the undercover wore a recording device during thousands of hours of conversations with a host of bosses and their associates in the greatest penetration of the mob since Joseph Pistone pretended to be “Donnie Brasco” nearly three decades ago.

Ironically, “Falcone” – who in real life is Hispanic and not Italian – was so convincing that Gregory DePalma, a 73-year-old capo who infamously posed with Frank Sinatra at the Westchester Premier Theater in 1976 – put Falcone, not Minuto, up for induction into the family.

Minuto’s lawyer, Murray Richman, denied that the convicted gambler tried to buy his way into the Gambino family.

“In listening to the tapes, the only conclusion I can come to is that this is gossip – mob gossip – and, judging from the sources, you must evaluate the information based upon the persons making the statements,” Richman said.

About a year ago, several wiseguys were heard talking about how Minuto, a key moneymaker in The Bronx, groused about being passed over when there was a rare family opening, sources say.

Minuto’s $1 million offer did him no good, apparently because the mob believed he did not have the nerve and penchant for violence to be a full-blown hood, sources said.

Minuto, who was also convicted in the “Junior” Gotti case, eventually got his plea to Squitieri, who was made the family’s acting boss in June 2002.

Minuto and his son are free on bail.

Re: Mobsters paid for be made [Re: Louiebynochi] #1004358
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Originally Posted by Louiebynochi
Bobby Luisi paid 10k a month to be made

Lenny Munuto offered Arnold Squitieri a million to be made and Arnold turned him down

Al Trucchio basically bought his button. He was a bookmaker who made millions by his late teens..not a. Violent or fistfight type of guy but huge earner...
Tons of wiseguys have bought there badge,it’s much more common today than it used to be. The complexion of the life has changed so much that earning is really the main qualification today...


Im referring to a wiseguys that wasnt a good earners or a stonecold killed and give money to a capo for be put in the induction list. Like D'amico or Luisi.

Re: Mobsters paid for be made [Re: furio_from_naples] #1004359
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Essentially, unless a guy was brought into a family because he was "capable" as they say to do "work." 99% of all others are in "truth" to strengthen the bosses and family financially.

Whether that be in the form or earning for the family over a number of years, and kicking up profits from various rackets, or some of the more blatant jerk-offs attempting to "buy" their way in by handing over a fat envelope in one shot to their superior (which for the old-timers was an insult and made you look like a sucker).

It was never supposed to be about $$$$, but of course at the end of the day, most mafiosi are there for money and power it brings.

Some get "in" because they are related by blood, or close friendships. But its always about the money. Regardless of how the bosses wanna portray it.

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Originally Posted by NYMafia
Essentially, unless a guy was brought into a family because he was "capable" as they say to do "work." 99% of all others are in "truth" to strengthen the bosses and family financially.

Whether that be in the form or earning for the family over a number of years, and kicking up profits from various rackets, or some of the more blatant jerk-offs attempting to "buy" their way in by handing over a fat envelope in one shot to their superior (which for the old-timers was an insult and made you look like a sucker).

It was never supposed to be about $$$$, but of course at the end of the day, most mafiosi are there for money and power it brings.

Some get "in" because they are related by blood, or close friendships. But its always about the money. Regardless of how the bosses wanna portray it.



Now by insult to the old timers are you talking about the guys that paid Albert Anastasia a fat envelope to get in or Jerry Anguilo who paid 100k in the early 50s to get in?????


A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
Re: Mobsters paid for be made [Re: furio_from_naples] #1004368
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Originally Posted by Louiebynochi
Originally Posted by NYMafia
Essentially, unless a guy was brought into a family because he was "capable" as they say to do "work." 99% of all others are in "truth" to strengthen the bosses and family financially.

Whether that be in the form or earning for the family over a number of years, and kicking up profits from various rackets, or some of the more blatant jerk-offs attempting to "buy" their way in by handing over a fat envelope in one shot to their superior (which for the old-timers was an insult and made you look like a sucker).

It was never supposed to be about $$$$, but of course at the end of the day, most mafiosi are there for money and power it brings.

Some get "in" because they are related by blood, or close friendships. But its always about the money. Regardless of how the bosses wanna portray it.



Now by insult to the old timers are you talking about the guys that paid Albert Anastasia a fat envelope to get in or Jerry Anguilo who paid 100k in the early 50s to get in?????


What insult? Jerry Angiulo can give 100k a month in 1950 ($1,080,804.98 today) and get his button and the boss said ok but can easly say no way,between the brothers jerry was the more inteligent but not the tought. Who buy the buttons from Anastasia dont necessary didnt deserve to be made but the fact that must pay means something.

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I thought it was 100k a year for the rights to Boston not 100k a month, but maybe I'm wrong

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Originally Posted by JakeTheSnake30
I thought it was 100k a year for the rights to Boston not 100k a month, but maybe I'm wrong


No,was 100k a month.

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Re: Mobsters paid for be made [Re: Louiebynochi] #1004381
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Originally Posted by Louiebynochi
Originally Posted by NYMafia
Essentially, unless a guy was brought into a family because he was "capable" as they say to do "work." 99% of all others are in "truth" to strengthen the bosses and family financially.

Whether that be in the form or earning for the family over a number of years, and kicking up profits from various rackets, or some of the more blatant jerk-offs attempting to "buy" their way in by handing over a fat envelope in one shot to their superior (which for the old-timers was an insult and made you look like a sucker).

It was never supposed to be about $$$$, but of course at the end of the day, most mafiosi are there for money and power it brings.

Some get "in" because they are related by blood, or close friendships. But its always about the money. Regardless of how the bosses wanna portray it.



Now by insult to the old timers are you talking about the guys that paid Albert Anastasia a fat envelope to get in or Jerry Anguilo who paid 100k in the early 50s to get in?????


The ORIGINALS from back in Sicily who first immigrated to tis country in the late 1800s, and early 1900s. Ok Louie the Looper? Lol

Re: Mobsters paid for be made [Re: furio_from_naples] #1004410
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Last 20 years or so there's probably tons of guys wishing they could pay to get un-made. Ha.

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Originally Posted by Goldy
Last 20 years or so there's probably tons of guys wishing they could pay to get un-made. Ha.




you ain't kidding. lol

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Originally Posted by The_Marble_Guy
Joe Ruggiero


Any sources?

Re: Mobsters paid for be made [Re: MolochioInduced] #1004421
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Originally Posted by MolochioInduced
I think Albert Anastasia was selling memberships at one point.



I think it was Frank Scalise who was selling those memberships, and that was what got him killed in 1957.

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In reality all mob guys pay to be made. They pay in the sense in they are earners and kick up, they pay in a sense as an enforcer who does heavy work, you have some hybrids that do both. Some pay due to nepotism. They all pay the price. But yeah some paid a one time fee of $50k to be made, then paid a lot more after. Look at S------- and Rossatti. They made themselves rich without the help of the mob yet still joined for some reason. They were smart and haven't done jail time and the Colombo Family benefits financially. What's the downside for the Colombo Family allowing them to join? They get money from them, they don't allow them to partake in illegal activity therefore they will never get jammed up and rat. All they gotta do is go out for drinks once in a while and treat them like one of the boys. If the mob was smart they would have transitioned to this in 76, all legit except for gambling. No extortion drugs or anything else illegal. They had what 1200 members at most in New York back then? Could've put them on $100k salary while infiltrating legal businesses. Payday loans, title loans, consulting companies, legit union duties, talent and travel agencies, legit real estate biz, legit garbage biz, fish markets, butchers. They could've been 99 percent legit by now except for 2 factors. Greed and Ego

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Originally Posted by ColonelReb
In reality all mob guys pay to be made. They pay in the sense in they are earners and kick up, they pay in a sense as an enforcer who does heavy work, you have some hybrids that do both. Some pay due to nepotism. They all pay the price. But yeah some paid a one time fee of $50k to be made, then paid a lot more after. Look at S------- and Rossatti. They made themselves rich without the help of the mob yet still joined for some reason. They were smart and haven't done jail time and the Colombo Family benefits financially. What's the downside for the Colombo Family allowing them to join? They get money from them, they don't allow them to partake in illegal activity therefore they will never get jammed up and rat. All they gotta do is go out for drinks once in a while and treat them like one of the boys. If the mob was smart they would have transitioned to this in 76, all legit except for gambling. No extortion drugs or anything else illegal. They had what 1200 members at most in New York back then? Could've put them on $100k salary while infiltrating legal businesses. Payday loans, title loans, consulting companies, legit union duties, talent and travel agencies, legit real estate biz, legit garbage biz, fish markets, butchers. They could've been 99 percent legit by now except for 2 factors. Greed and Ego


Bingo Colonel!..... you are one million percent right

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https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.a0000445478&view=2up&seq=310&skin=mobile

When Valachi testified at the McClennan hearings he said that when the books opened around 1954, Frank Scalice and Albert Anastasia initiated a couple of hundred members and some of them were "commercialized" as Valachi puts it, paying $40,000 to become a member. According to him they were "kids there who was with Frank Luciano" one called JoJo.

Later on in his testimony, Valachi lists several members who were initiated by Scalice. These include Jimmy Squillante, Jerry Mancuso, Aniello "Wahoo" Mancuso, "ch*nk" Leo, Frank Rocci, Tony the Geep, Mike the Geep, Carmine Camarado, Jimmy Ward, Salvatore Bonfrisco, Jojo and Dudu. Valachi indicates they all paid $40,000 to become members. He also says that some paid with their business and then never saw their business again.


Originally Posted by furio_from_naples
Originally Posted by JakeTheSnake30
I thought it was 100k a year for the rights to Boston not 100k a month, but maybe I'm wrong


No,was 100k a month.


What is the source on that? Doesn't that just mean he was an earner?

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Originally Posted by MightyDR
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.a0000445478&view=2up&seq=310&skin=mobile

When Valachi testified at the McClennan hearings he said that when the books opened around 1954, Frank Scalice and Albert Anastasia initiated a couple of hundred members and some of them were "commercialized" as Valachi puts it, paying $40,000 to become a member. According to him they were "kids there who was with Frank Luciano" one called JoJo.

Later on in his testimony, Valachi lists several members who were initiated by Scalice. These include Jimmy Squillante, Jerry Mancuso, Aniello "Wahoo" Mancuso, "ch*nk" Leo, Frank Rocci, Tony the Geep, Mike the Geep, Carmine Camarado, Jimmy Ward, Salvatore Bonfrisco, Jojo and Dudu. Valachi indicates they all paid $40,000 to become members. He also says that some paid with their business and then never saw their business again.


Originally Posted by furio_from_naples
Originally Posted by JakeTheSnake30
I thought it was 100k a year for the rights to Boston not 100k a month, but maybe I'm wrong


No,was 100k a month.


What is the source on that? Doesn't that just mean he was an earner?



My bad,it was 100k a year.

Gennaro "Jerry" Angiulo who was involved in the numbers racket in Boston, and was being shaken down by rival mobsters because he was not a "made" member. He solved this problem by paying Patriarca $50,000 and agreeing to pay him $100,000 a year to become a made member of the family. Angiulo was based in Boston and gained complete control of gambling in the city.

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with gerry anguilo he didnt buy his button. he went straight to ray sr in providence after lombardo shut down all mafia backed gambling operation because of the senate hearings in the 50tys and said he had problems with made guys because lombardo wasnt protecting him anymore so he was free game so he solved his problem going direct to the boss. eventually ray proposed him and his best friend peter limone then the rest of his brothers. the buy his button came from the fbi to belittled him because he talked tons of shit about the fbi. there tons of tapes of gerry and ray in his office talking about all types of inductions and people who where proposed i even think they talked about the guy scalise selling buttons that would have been akward. once gerry went to ray he had free reign over boston and no other guy could say shit. think that was a smart decision

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