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What was the issue between Persico and Gigante
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10/21/20 01:44 PM
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It’s been said in interviews; and back on the streets in the 1970’s and 1980’s that Carmine Persico; and Vincent Gigante had a extreme dislike for eachother.
Do anyone know why they hated each??
Persico was boss before Gigante; Could that be a reason?
Jealousy?? Envy??
Would love some responses!
“I called your f—— house five times yesterday, now, if you’re going to disregard my m—– f—— phone calls, I’ll blow you and that f —— house up… This is not a f—— game. My time is valuable. If I ever hear anybody else calls you and you respond within five days, I’ll f—— kill you.†~ John Gotti.
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Re: What was the issue between Persico and Gigante
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10/21/20 05:56 PM
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In one of Micheal Franzese’s interviews; He said that Gigante summoned him to a meeting and asked him did he want to join the Genovese’s. He also told Mike Franzese that he hated Persico; and that he was no good.
There was definitely some animosity....
I wish we knew more about Persico’s time on the street from 1979-1981......
No one seems to know anything about those 2-3 years...
“I called your f—— house five times yesterday, now, if you’re going to disregard my m—– f—— phone calls, I’ll blow you and that f —— house up… This is not a f—— game. My time is valuable. If I ever hear anybody else calls you and you respond within five days, I’ll f—— kill you.†~ John Gotti.
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Re: What was the issue between Persico and Gigante
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10/22/20 02:55 PM
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I don't know the beef between them, but if you look at Gigante, he ran his family tremendously well, stayed out of prison for decades and his family was still very strong when he died...Persico and Gotti ruined their family's...They weren't on Gigante's level !! Chin was extremely savvy and cagy, and set a proper tone for his family. Most others did not
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Re: What was the issue between Persico and Gigante
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10/24/20 10:30 AM
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Even though; Chin was more powerful then Persico as Boss;
Wouldn't Carmine Persico still be seen; or considered Gigante's senior on the commission??
Persico became boss in the early 1970's; while Gigante became boss in 1981.
Last edited by Zavattoni; 10/24/20 10:31 AM.
“I called your f—— house five times yesterday, now, if you’re going to disregard my m—– f—— phone calls, I’ll blow you and that f —— house up… This is not a f—— game. My time is valuable. If I ever hear anybody else calls you and you respond within five days, I’ll f—— kill you.†~ John Gotti.
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Re: What was the issue between Persico and Gigante
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It’s been said in interviews; and back on the streets in the 1970’s and 1980’s that Carmine Persico; and Vincent Gigante had a extreme dislike for eachother.
Do anyone know why they hated each??
Persico was boss before Gigante; Could that be a reason?
Jealousy?? Envy??
Would love some responses! I'm pretty sure the issue stemmed from The chins long time support of the Gallo crew.
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Re: What was the issue between Persico and Gigante
[Re: pmac]
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10/25/20 11:21 AM
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Chin was 4 yrs younger then carmine. Carmine was made really young. Think scarpa says carmine is inducted in 56 57. Scarpa was made in 1950 he was only 21. I'm guessing chin was inducted around 56. Ray patrarca did a induction for 6 guys in 56 then transfers them all to the genovese family. All worcester an springfield guys. What's frank castello boss and Vito underboss in 56? You have the birthdays mixed up. Chin was 5 years older than Carmine.
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