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Re: The Profaci-Colombo Family circa 1958-1972 [Re: BarrettM] #1000082
11/19/20 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by BarrettM
Giacamo, isn't it true that an old timer in the Profacis guaranteed the Gallos wouldn't make trouble, and convinced Profaci to go ahead with it?
I think there was also one old timer who was for making the Gallos, and one who was against.


Yes. John Scimone was the Gallo brothers sponsor, but he was neutral and did like Larry Gallo. Frank Abbatemarco and Enrico Fontana made a deal, where each would ok each proposed members in their crews, so they could beef up their crews, I am sure there may have been one or two more Capos in the deal. The Gallo brothers were made before the summer of 1957. Fontana was able to boost his crew during that summer. Salvatore Musacchio and Amborse Magliocco were the strongest opponents to the Gallos being made, and they had Giuseppe Magliocco ear. Musacchio was the biggest headache as he was competing with the Genovese members that were in lucrative business that the Gallo brothers were friendly with, Ambrose was still mad about one of his associates that Joe Gallo got into a shuffle with, and a dislike on how the Gallos were also close to Joe Franco and Carmine Lombardozzi in the Gambino family. Joe Profaci had reassurance from some of his capos and decided to make them. Musacchio was still a problem for the brothers. Profaci decided to test the Gallo brothers loyalty by ordering them to kill Frank Abbatemarco which they did, but Profaci refused to honor the deal of the rackets going to the Gallo brothers. That was Profaci downfall.


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Re: The Profaci-Colombo Family circa 1958-1972 [Re: Dob_Peppino] #1000088
11/19/20 02:29 PM
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Would anyone consider Profaci as an underrated Boss? I mean powerwise, and was his problem with the Gallos an isolated incident or did Profaci have other detractors besides them? (Excluding Frankie Shots as well)


"Joe Bananas went after Carlo Gambino, the war went on for seven years..... When guys go to the mattresses, they're not out earning" -Tony Soprano
Re: The Profaci-Colombo Family circa 1958-1972 [Re: Dob_Peppino] #1024845
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Emmanuel "Nello" Cammarata Is Dead | Colombo Crime Family | Florida| (1972)


Re: The Profaci-Colombo Family circa 1958-1972 [Re: Dob_Peppino] #1024872
12/02/21 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Dob_Peppino

Most people have a problem with the book because it "omits" things ( I don't agree with the narrative that Bonanno was a liar.) People seemnto forget that it wasn't acceptable for any criminal of that stature to do a "tell-a-book".

Bonanno had been deposed as boss long before he published that book. But it let him have a last laugh at the Commission's expense:
Rudy Giuliani was US Attorney for the Southern District of NY when the book was published. RICO had been on the books for more than a decade, but Federal prosecutors were reluctant to use it because it was so new to their experience. Giuliani saw, in Bonano's description of the Commission's workings, a prime example of a "Racketeer Influenced Corrupt Organization." He brought in G. Robert Blakey, the author of RICO legislation, to coach him and his staff on how to use RICO (Giuliani called him "my consigliere"). Result: the Commission case.


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Re: The Profaci-Colombo Family circa 1958-1972 [Re: Turnbull] #1024873
12/03/21 12:31 AM
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I don't think Bonanno had a laugh because they went down legally. I think he would've rather seen them taken out Mafia-style, the way his Tradition that he yapped about so much dictates.

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