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Re: The Mind of Greg Scarpa [Re: jace] #1082049
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Originally Posted by jace
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Following...



He or she is trying to ignore the question, They call themselves " The other guy" seems that was untrue. Or he's gay.

Maybe they are a mob wife or mistress. clap

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Re: The Mind of Greg Scarpa [Re: NYMafia] #1082121
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Originally Posted by NYMafia
Doesn't it make you wonder why the FBI always uses the most deranged informants?



Who would believe that the FBI would protect such a dangerous guy ???

Today we know better...

They always try to push that Pistone was such a great undercover that he fooled everyone, which is mostly true, but I'd bet the house that he did things that nobody thought the FBI would ever condone....You don't last 6 years and get so close to a captain, just by bringing swag jewelry !!

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Originally Posted by DiLorenzo
Originally Posted by NYMafia
Doesn't it make you wonder why the FBI always uses the most deranged informants?



Who would believe that the FBI would protect such a dangerous guy ???

Today we know better...

They always try to push that Pistone was such a great undercover that he fooled everyone, which is mostly true, but I'd bet the house that he did things that nobody thought the FBI would ever condone....You don't last 6 years and get so close to a captain, just by bringing swag jewelry !!


No doubt.

Re: The Mind of Greg Scarpa [Re: NYMafia] #1084593
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Originally Posted by NYMafia
They eat polenta for christsake! I'm rolling...and plain polenta too -- at least that's how my husband used to eat it....lolol. At least my mother in law puts sauce on hers.


Bumped

Re: The Mind of Greg Scarpa [Re: CNote] #1084606
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Originally Posted by CNote
Originally Posted by NYMafia
They eat polenta for christsake! I'm rolling...and plain polenta too -- at least that's how my husband used to eat it....lolol. At least my mother in law puts sauce on hers.


Bumped




He'll keep trying to duck this.

Re: The Mind of Greg Scarpa [Re: DiLorenzo] #1084617
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Originally Posted by DiLorenzo
Originally Posted by NYMafia
Doesn't it make you wonder why the FBI always uses the most deranged informants?



Who would believe that the FBI would protect such a dangerous guy ???

Today we know better...

They always try to push that Pistone was such a great undercover that he fooled everyone, which is mostly true, but I'd bet the house that he did things that nobody thought the FBI would ever condone....You don't last 6 years and get so close to a captain, just by bringing swag jewelry !!

. Lin Devecchio was/is a scumbag for sure. It’s clear he let Scarpa run around doing whatever he wanted and seemed to get a rush out of it. He admits he got “close” to crossing the line but it’s clear he went way past it. As for Pistone I don’t want to throw accusations I think he admitted to beating some guys up during his time but I don’t think he went anywhere close as far as Devecchio did

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Re: The Mind of Greg Scarpa [Re: Butchie1788] #1084687
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I agree with you JCrusher regarding Devecchio and Pistone, but I never saw Pistone say he beat people up. Are you sure he said it? Pistone is the only FBI agent who in my opinion really accomplished a successful undercover job on the mafia. I read his book years agora nd have seen a few of his interviews, but can't recall him saying he gave anyone a beating while working undercover.

Re: The Mind of Greg Scarpa [Re: jace] #1084689
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Originally Posted by jace
Pistone is the only FBI agent who in my opinion really accomplished a successful undercover job on the mafia.

Pistone did a good job, but he mostly focused on Sonny Blacks crew only and the main defendant didn't even live to the trial. I think Jack Garcia did more harm to the Gambino family than Pistone did to the Bonannos, because he got the acting boss (Squitieri), and 2 capos (DePalma and Megale), apart from a larger number of defendants.

On the other hand, Pistone worked during the period when the mafia was more powerful, so was in a more dangerous situation though...


Willie Marfeo to Henry Tameleo:

1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."

2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
Re: The Mind of Greg Scarpa [Re: jace] #1084694
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Originally Posted by jace
I agree with you JCrusher regarding Devecchio and Pistone, but I never saw Pistone say he beat people up. Are you sure he said it? Pistone is the only FBI agent who in my opinion really accomplished a successful undercover job on the mafia. I read his book years agora nd have seen a few of his interviews, but can't recall him saying he gave anyone a beating while working undercover.


He wrote it in his second book ("Unfinished business") in which he mentions some of the illegal stuff he did while undercover. He couldn't write it in the first book because it would have been used against him in the trials.

He said he took part in a few hijacking operations when he was around Jilly Greca and the Colombos.

He also mentioned a particular incident when Lefty and him were robbed at gunpoint by some guys after they left a gambling joint. A few days later, Lefty found out who were the guys who did it so he gave their adress to Pistone and told him to give them a beating which he did. They were junkies so Pistone didn't have any problem handling it alone.

Re: The Mind of Greg Scarpa [Re: Dwalin2011] #1084915
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Originally Posted by Dwalin2011
Originally Posted by jace
Pistone is the only FBI agent who in my opinion really accomplished a successful undercover job on the mafia.

Pistone did a good job, but he mostly focused on Sonny Blacks crew only and the main defendant didn't even live to the trial. I think Jack Garcia did more harm to the Gambino family than Pistone did to the Bonannos, because he got the acting boss (Squitieri), and 2 capos (DePalma and Megale), apart from a larger number of defendants.

On the other hand, Pistone worked during the period when the mafia was more powerful, so was in a more dangerous situation though...



I disagree Dwalin.Pistone destroyed a lot of Bonnanos., and infiltrated other families. Garcia put a lot into promoting himself, Pistone actually earned his rep. He even wound up meeting bosses from other states. Amazing. Garcia hung out with a broken old man giving him money in exchange for getting to hand around him. I think DePalma was also shaved at the time.

Re: The Mind of Greg Scarpa [Re: jace] #1086569
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Destroyed? That's rich. He got 17 mobsters only and the rest that he claims is were he testified around the country as a Mafia expert and then gave himself the credit as his case. Read Massino's testimony about Sonny Blacks killing. He said he was wacked because he was making moves to take over the family and Not because he vouched for Pistone.






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Re: The Mind of Greg Scarpa [Re: Butchie1788] #1086597
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Any guys alive who Pistone met? During the scene when Lefty meets Sonny Red and Galante. Did Pistone encounter Galante even if he was “showing the flag” on the block as Sonny Black says.

Cool that he met Trafficanfte.. he’s been dead since 87 if I remember correctly.

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