I like your attitude; from your unwavering patriotism in your support of Italian goods, to your realization that blood is the only architect.

I have noticed that some Iranians; Afghans; Arabs; Greeks; & all other kinds of people with dark features attempt passing themselves off as Italians to be more accepted in American society. They only betray themselves & give a false representation of Italians. I have met types, that could have racially never existed in Italy, claiming to be Italian. But I let them know how visible truth & reality are.

I respect your views, but you guys are not talking about NATIVE greeks and italians, Im half greek (cypriot) and half italian (sicilian) I have family in both cyprus and italy and have just noticed a similar way of life is all, why would greeks try to 'act' italian? greeks are great people as are italians.

you are a man of respect and a true don, donferro


patrick who is this mancini you speak of?

sorry to keep re-posting here is a link on the subject, with great pictures!

http://dienekes.angeltowns.net/texts/winckelmann/

That work published in the 1880's by a German & translated by a very biased Greek-American anthropologist (if he can truly be granted the title) from California is a joke.

Dienekes is very heavily biased in all of his work as an anthropologist (I'm not sure of his qualifications as a professional anthropologist as I've seen him shamed by intellectual laymen on certain forums I'm a member of), something his inspiration, & predecessor, Coon, wasn't.

Racial Reality as a website has a heavy Mediterranean bias, it is mainly focused on 'refuting' what they consider to be 'myths.' Only Mediterranean subraces are covered through that site & the information from either Coon's Races of Europe or Origin of Races is misquoted to whitewash Mediterraneans.

Coon covered unfathomable ground, but much of his work has been proven false & incongrous by some modern DNA studies & new genetic technology.

i respect your views guinepig greeks and italians have differences both culturally and through blood, but what i was highlighting that being half italain (sicilian) and half greek (cypriot) when i see both sides of my family come together you would think they were all greek or all italian because of they we look/act

Life is governed by perception. You can either choose to base your opinions & perceptions on reality, or on your personal fantasies & biases.

Italians are much closer to Iberians (the Spanish, Portuguese & Andulsians), than they are to Greeks. For certain closer to any country in Western Europe (culturally & for the most part genetically) than they are to the Eastern European, Hellenic, Greeks.

What similarities would you say Greeks & Italians share to make their culture similiar?

Hey people,
I haven't posted here for a long time, and when I saw this thread I thought it was time to come back.
I'm Greek, and one of the fewer ones that are not at all olive skinned but pale. But people still think I'm Italian a lot of the time, maybe it's the curly hair, I don't really know.
I don't really see how people think the two cultures act exactly the same, they have their similarites for sure, but I can generally pick a Greek from an Italian, that's probably because I've grown up with both cultures my whole life though.
Anyways, it's good to be back and posting.
Liz.

Welcome back!

I bet you are a hellenic beauty!

greco siciliano

I more than anyone, should be able to pick a greek out from an italian, but I can't! thus proving my theory that some blood lines in italy are greek and the roman influence on cyprus plays it's part etc...

hate to break it to you but because YOU can't do something that doesn't prove your point.

hate to break it to you but because YOU can't do something that doesn't prove your point. [/quote]very true, but it just backs up the case, my son

First off don't call me son.

Secondly, IT DOESN'T BACK UP YOUR CASE. Just because YOU can't do something it doesn't mean anything.

I can't ski, does that mean that if I make a statement that NO ONE can ski that it backs up my case?

Now,Now lets not get Personal

calm down no need for that kind of talk, show me and the bb some respect.

play nice