GangsterBB.NET


Funko Pop! Movies:
The Godfather 50th Anniversary Collectors Set -
3 Figure Set: Michael, Vito, Sonny

Who's Online Now
1 registered members (1 invisible), 284 guests, and 3 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Shout Box
Site Links
>Help Page
>More Smilies
>GBB on Facebook
>Job Saver

>Godfather Website
>Scarface Website
>Mario Puzo Website
NEW!
Active Member Birthdays
No birthdays today
Newest Members
TheGhost, Pumpkin, RussianCriminalWorld, JohnnyTheBat, Havana
10349 Registered Users
Top Posters(All Time)
Irishman12 67,490
DE NIRO 44,945
J Geoff 31,285
Hollander 23,916
pizzaboy 23,296
SC 22,902
Turnbull 19,512
Mignon 19,066
Don Cardi 18,238
Sicilian Babe 17,300
plawrence 15,058
Forum Statistics
Forums21
Topics42,330
Posts1,058,779
Members10,349
Most Online796
Jan 21st, 2020
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Italian 41 bis prison regime #968664
04/05/19 04:36 AM
04/05/19 04:36 AM
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 23,916
H
Hollander Offline OP
Hollander  Offline OP
H

Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 23,916
Currently there are 752 prisoners in Italian prisons under the 41 bis regime. Compared to the criminal organization to which they belong, 263 prisoners refer to the Camorra, 231 to Cosa Nostra, 202 to the 'Ndrangheta, 21 to the Sacra Corona Unita, the rest to other mafias.


"The king is dead, long live the king!"
Re: Italian 41 bis prison regime [Re: Hollander] #968672
04/05/19 06:36 AM
04/05/19 06:36 AM
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 2,244
Balkans
Strax Offline
Underboss
Strax  Offline
Underboss
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 2,244
Balkans
Interesting,i thought the number is much less than 700.


"A fish with his mouth closed never get's caught"
Re: Italian 41 bis prison regime [Re: Strax] #968678
04/05/19 07:22 AM
04/05/19 07:22 AM
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 23,916
H
Hollander Offline OP
Hollander  Offline OP
H

Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 23,916
Originally Posted by Strax
Interesting,i thought the number is much less than 700.


It´s only used against the most dangerous guys, bosses and killers.


"The king is dead, long live the king!"
Re: Italian 41 bis prison regime [Re: Hollander] #968684
04/05/19 08:30 AM
04/05/19 08:30 AM
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 2,244
Balkans
Strax Offline
Underboss
Strax  Offline
Underboss
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 2,244
Balkans
Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by Strax
Interesting,i thought the number is much less than 700.


It´s only used against the most dangerous guys, bosses and killers.


Yes i know,thats why i thought number will be lower than 700.


"A fish with his mouth closed never get's caught"
Re: Italian 41 bis prison regime [Re: Hollander] #968687
04/05/19 09:07 AM
04/05/19 09:07 AM
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 2,095
TheKillingJoke Offline
Underboss
TheKillingJoke  Offline
Underboss
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 2,095
95% belong to the Big Three. Didn't expect to see SCN getting dwarfed to this extent. Almost seems like they're small time compared to the others.
Camorra is huge and at their worst they're nearing Cartel-levels of brutality. No surprise that they got the biggest amount of members under this regime.

Re: Italian 41 bis prison regime [Re: Hollander] #968688
04/05/19 09:11 AM
04/05/19 09:11 AM
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 23,916
H
Hollander Offline OP
Hollander  Offline OP
H

Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 23,916
Yeah but I bet there will be more SCU in 41 bis in the future considering how violent they act in recent years.


"The king is dead, long live the king!"
Re: Italian 41 bis prison regime [Re: Hollander] #968704
04/05/19 12:26 PM
04/05/19 12:26 PM
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 7,237
naples,italy
furio_from_naples Offline
furio_from_naples  Offline

Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 7,237
naples,italy
The SCU and the other oc groups from Apulia are more violent but less know respect the mafia or the camorra.I'm trying to find a list of the criminals that was part of big three and get the 41 bis.

Re: Italian 41 bis prison regime [Re: Hollander] #968712
04/05/19 01:32 PM
04/05/19 01:32 PM
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 23,916
H
Hollander Offline OP
Hollander  Offline OP
H

Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 23,916
The prisons with the highest number of inmates under 41 bis are L'Aquila in Abruzzo region (166), Milan/Opera (94) and Sassari on Sardinia (91).


"The king is dead, long live the king!"
Re: Italian 41 bis prison regime [Re: Hollander] #968740
04/05/19 07:15 PM
04/05/19 07:15 PM
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 298
D
doggystyle Offline
Capo
doggystyle  Offline
D
Capo
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 298
How is the 41 bis compared to the supermax prison in Colorado for example`?

Re: Italian 41 bis prison regime [Re: doggystyle] #968741
04/05/19 07:39 PM
04/05/19 07:39 PM
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 23,916
H
Hollander Offline OP
Hollander  Offline OP
H

Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 23,916
Originally Posted by doggystyle
How is the 41 bis compared to the supermax prison in Colorado for example`?


Probably pretty similar. Here in Holland we have one prison with hard regime. It´s solitary confinement very little contact with other inmates. During a regular visit there is always a glass wall between the visitor and the prisoner.


"The king is dead, long live the king!"
Re: Italian 41 bis prison regime [Re: Hollander] #968757
04/06/19 04:34 AM
04/06/19 04:34 AM
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 7,237
naples,italy
furio_from_naples Offline
furio_from_naples  Offline

Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 7,237
naples,italy
Originally Posted by doggystyle
How is the 41 bis compared to the supermax prison in Colorado for example`?


Yes,is almost the same thing and exist a "41 bis special" where the inmates stay in cells located underground, without widows,without air hours, monitored 24h and without the possibility of having contact with the outside if not in rare cases and without the possibility of having even a book.

Last edited by furio_from_naples; 04/06/19 04:35 AM.
Re: Italian 41 bis prison regime [Re: Hollander] #968790
04/06/19 12:25 PM
04/06/19 12:25 PM
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 298
D
doggystyle Offline
Capo
doggystyle  Offline
D
Capo
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 298
I remember i read that Paolo Di Lauro told them he didnt want to talk to anyone outside, he didnt want no hours in the yard or nothing just to show them he dont give a fuck about how hard the 41 bis is, he is harder. I will try to find the article.

Re: Italian 41 bis prison regime [Re: Hollander] #968793
04/06/19 12:52 PM
04/06/19 12:52 PM
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 7,237
naples,italy
furio_from_naples Offline
furio_from_naples  Offline

Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 7,237
naples,italy
Originally Posted by doggystyle
I remember i read that Paolo Di Lauro told them he didnt want to talk to anyone outside, he didnt want no hours in the yard or nothing just to show them he dont give a fuck about how hard the 41 bis is, he is harder. I will try to find the article.


Another article say that DiLauro are acting like a crazy for get out of 41 bis.

Last edited by furio_from_naples; 04/06/19 12:52 PM.
Re: Italian 41 bis prison regime [Re: Hollander] #968794
04/06/19 01:15 PM
04/06/19 01:15 PM
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 23,916
H
Hollander Offline OP
Hollander  Offline OP
H

Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 23,916
In June 2002, some 300 Mafia prisoners declared a hunger strike, calling for an end to the isolation conditions and objecting to parliament's Antimafia Commission proposal to extend the measure. Apart from refusing prison food, the inmates had been constantly banging the metalwork of their cells.[8][9][10] After the protest began in Marina Picena prison in central Italy – the prison's inmates include Salvatore Riina, the reputed "boss of bosses" – it spread rapidly across the country, in spite of inmates supposedly having no way to contact one another. Mobsters of different ranks in eight prisons had joined.

The European Court of Human Rights and others have been very critical about 41 bis and similar hard regimes.


"The king is dead, long live the king!"
Re: Italian 41 bis prison regime [Re: Hollander] #968802
04/06/19 03:12 PM
04/06/19 03:12 PM
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 7,237
naples,italy
furio_from_naples Offline
furio_from_naples  Offline

Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 7,237
naples,italy
Originally Posted by Hollander
In June 2002, some 300 Mafia prisoners declared a hunger strike, calling for an end to the isolation conditions and objecting to parliament's Antimafia Commission proposal to extend the measure. Apart from refusing prison food, the inmates had been constantly banging the metalwork of their cells.[8][9][10] After the protest began in Marina Picena prison in central Italy – the prison's inmates include Salvatore Riina, the reputed "boss of bosses" – it spread rapidly across the country, in spite of inmates supposedly having no way to contact one another. Mobsters of different ranks in eight prisons had joined.

The European Court of Human RightsEuropea and others have been very critical about 41 bis and similar hard regimes.


No offence for the European Court of Human Rights but here in italy 3 province are deviare by the mafia;other countries can understand,why the rights of 700 criminals are best that the milions that was/are and will be damage by this criminals organizations?

Last edited by furio_from_naples; 04/06/19 03:13 PM.
Re: Italian 41 bis prison regime [Re: TheKillingJoke] #968936
04/08/19 04:29 PM
04/08/19 04:29 PM
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 2,448
M
m2w Offline
Underboss
m2w  Offline
M
Underboss
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 2,448
Originally Posted by TheKillingJoke
95% belong to the Big Three. Didn't expect to see SCN getting dwarfed to this extent. Almost seems like they're small time compared to the others.
Camorra is huge and at their worst they're nearing Cartel-levels of brutality. No surprise that they got the biggest amount of members under this regime.


sacra corona unita is considered weaker and less rooted, that's because it has less members under 41 bis
it's also by far the youngest, formed only in the late 1970s, sicilian mafia and camorra in the early 1800, being currently the oldest criminal groups worldwide, ndrangheta in the late 1800

Re: Italian 41 bis prison regime [Re: Hollander] #977886
09/06/19 03:01 AM
09/06/19 03:01 AM
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 42
I
Immortale Offline
Wiseguy
Immortale  Offline
I
Wiseguy
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 42
Why is it considered weak to have less members incarcerated under the bis 41 regime? Wouldn't you say the less members are in, the more lowkey the organization in question is?

EDIT: Sorry for the bump, but I found this an interesting read.

Last edited by Immortale; 09/06/19 03:02 AM.
Re: Italian 41 bis prison regime [Re: Hollander] #977889
09/06/19 04:05 AM
09/06/19 04:05 AM
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 2,448
M
m2w Offline
Underboss
m2w  Offline
M
Underboss
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 2,448
people under 41 bis are the most dangerous in prison because belong to mafia-type organizations, sacra corona unita are less than others because it's weaker and most of its members are in ordinary prisons... there is not low-key matter in these days, police knows perfectly everywhere and who is the most dangerous to put under 41-bis

Re: Italian 41 bis prison regime [Re: Hollander] #977899
09/06/19 05:37 AM
09/06/19 05:37 AM
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 23,916
H
Hollander Offline OP
Hollander  Offline OP
H

Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 23,916
That reminds me of the story of Armando Libergolis, a member of the SCU, condemned to serve twenty-five years of maximum security by Article 41 bis. He managed to get his seminal fluid to cross the boundary walls of the prison and reach a laboratory for analysis and the operation was carried out without problems. The future mother is the wife of the prisoner, Maria Riccardo. They were accused of having defrauded Agea, the Agricultural Dispensing Agency. Instead they won a victory that recognizes the right to paternity.

Last edited by Hollander; 09/06/19 05:38 AM.

"The king is dead, long live the king!"

Moderated by  Don Cardi, J Geoff, SC, Turnbull 

Powered by UBB.threads™