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Bush's Bulge: a radio receiver from Rove? #75127
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http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/elections/article.adp?id=20041009095909990001

[img]http://cdn.news.aol.com/aolnews_photos/06/02/20041009094909990001[/img]


"WASHINGTON, Oct. 8 - What was that bulge in the back of President Bush's suit jacket at the presidential debate in Miami last week?

According to rumors racing across the Internet this week, the rectangular bulge visible between Mr. Bush's shoulder blades was a radio receiver, getting answers from an offstage counselor into a hidden presidential earpiece. The prime suspect was Karl Rove, Mr. Bush's powerful political adviser."


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Re: Bush's Bulge: a radio receiver from Rove? #75128
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You have got to be kidding me. :rolleyes:

Here's a part of the article you left out:
Quote:

"There was nothing under his suit jacket," said Nicolle Devenish, a campaign spokeswoman.

"It was most likely a rumpling of that portion of his suit jacket, or a wrinkle in the fabric."

Ms. Devenish could not say why the "rumpling" was rectangular.
I fail to see that "rectangular bulge" -- it looks more like a T to me, and probably a wrinkle.

Has anyone tried to speak live while being fed lines in an earpiece? It's almost impossible.

I think some people like to look for the littlest damn thing to discredit this guy, turning a wrinkle into a receiver? OMG!

Tho I do have to admit I thought "Bush's Bulge" would be about something else...



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Re: Bush's Bulge: a radio receiver from Rove? #75129
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the "bulge" can also be explained by a bullet proof vest which is MORE than likely something he was wearing for security purposes.


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Re: Bush's Bulge: a radio receiver from Rove? #75130
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The article said he wasn't wearing one...

Quote:
Nor was the bulge from a bulletproof vest, according to campaign and White House officials; they said Mr. Bush was not wearing one.



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Re: Bush's Bulge: a radio receiver from Rove? #75132
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Amen, Geoff.

That's got to be the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

Anything to discredit him. Some people just can't take a loss like a man -- gotta make up excuses. "He was using a radio!" Oh, lord. :rolleyes:


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Re: Bush's Bulge: a radio receiver from Rove? #75133
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Quote:
Originally posted by Anthony Lombardi:

Anything to discredit him. Some people just can't take a loss like a man
Kerry whooped Bush in Miami and has the polls backing him up.


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Re: Bush's Bulge: a radio receiver from Rove? #75134
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Please show me some polls that have Kerry winning. I'm not talking about "winning the debate" as that is purely opinion. Kerry won the first one I will give him that and Bush dominated the 2nd one.

I have seen one poll being the zogby poll showing Kerry ahead in the election by 1% point.

So please show me the polls that back up Kerry is winning. And unbiased polls, not some poll off the John Kerry website.


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Re: Bush's Bulge: a radio receiver from Rove? #75135
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Quote:
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Kerry won the first one...
That's what I said. I didn't say he was winning the election.


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Re: Bush's Bulge: a radio receiver from Rove? #75136
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Well when you said he "had the polls backing him up" I took that as meaning he "won" and then the "presidential polls" have moved so that Kerry is winning.

I am a conservative republican but I can admit when Bush did not have his best showing. The first debate was not his best, the second debate was a lot more and you are seeing a shift in the polls. Rasmussen for the first time is showing any candidate in this case Bush with 50% of the vote, and that is with only 5% of the polls coming after the 2nd debate.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Presidential_Tracking_Poll.htm


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Kerry may have "won" the first debate, but he was creamed in the second. Check out the news -- everyone's praising Bush's performance. :rolleyes:

And, yes, Bush is still ahead in the presidential voting polls, to my knowledge.

Edit: Here's an example...

"Last night, a more forceful and confident President Bush fought challenger John Kerry to a draw, stylistically speaking. When you factor in substance, Bush pulverized the guy." --
Andrea Peyser, The New York Post


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Re: Bush's Bulge: a radio receiver from Rove? #75138
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Maybe Laura's got him on the birth control patch?



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It's funny because I was just telling my daughter after the 2nd debate on Friday, that GW wasn't as much of an (fill in the blank) :p and commented that maybe he was "wired".

The picture however, must be from the first debate because he was standing in the first debate and was simply awful. If he was getting coached then, they sure picked the wrong person to feed him the lines.

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Quote:
Originally posted by Anthony Lombardi:
Amen, Geoff.

That's got to be the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

Anything to discredit him. Some people just can't take a loss like a man -- gotta make up excuses. "He was using a radio!" Oh, lord. :rolleyes:
I agree it sounds ridiculous. But if you read the full stories: first the Bush team said it was a doctored photo, then they said it was a rumpled suit. Which is it? This story got a brief mention this morning on a Sunday talk show.

Maybe its some bonafide secret service security device that they can't talk about?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3730364.stm


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Quote:
Originally posted by The Italian Stallionette:
It's funny because I was just telling my daughter after the 2nd debate on Friday, that GW wasn't as much of an (fill in the blank) :p and commented that maybe he was "wired".

The picture however, must be from the first debate because he was standing in the first debate and was simply awful. If he was getting coached then, they sure picked the wrong person to feed him the lines.

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The photo in question was from debate #1. Even I, as a true die-hard Bush loather, find it hard to believe that he could be that stupid. Wait a second, he is one of the all-time dumbest to be in the Oval, but I don't believe it was actually a wire.

But just the fact that he and his staff have to waste their time on it gives me a good chuckle.

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Does anyone doubt had that been a photo of Clinton debating for his second term, even with no proof of a wire, that there'd be outrage from the right, and that Ken Starr would have started an investigation and impeachment proceedings would be on the way.
:rolleyes:

ha ha....I'm feeling extra feisty today!! It's great to vent.

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Re: Bush's Bulge: a radio receiver from Rove? #75143
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Quote:
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Does anyone doubt had that been a photo of Clinton debating for his second term, even with no proof of a wire, that there'd be outrage from the right, and that Ken Starr would have started an investigation and impeachment proceedings would be on the way.
:rolleyes:

ha ha....I'm feeling extra feisty today!! It's great to vent.

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Not for one second do I doubt it.

I'll go one further. If it was proven that Clinton misled us into war, like the report has proven how W. misled us, imagine that scenario with Starr and his cronies. If, God forbid W. gets re-elected, I hope some Democrats have the courage to start impeachment proceedings immediately. If lying about sex is an impeachable offense, certainly lying about reasons to go to war and suffering the worst terrrorist attack ever would qualify.

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I was actually watching that debate the other night (even though it was on pretty late our time) and I remember saying to my boyfriend that Bush was pausing between each line he came out with, as if someone was feeding him the lines. Wouldn't really surprise me. Kerry was probably wired up as well. There's too much at stake for them to come out with a duff answer to a question - especially seeing as that Bush is hardly the sharpest tool is the box. :rolleyes:


...there's people who would pay a lot of money for that information. But then your daughter would lose a father..instead of gaining a husband.
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Quote:
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If lying about sex is an impeachable offense, certainly lying about reasons to go to war and suffering the worst terrrorist attack ever would qualify.
Bad intelligence, and suffering an attack is reason for impeachement?

I guess we should strike FDR from the books then, because there has been evidence that the White House knew Pearl Harbor was going to get attacked.

What about James Madison, when they burned the White House? That was an attack!

I tell you, getting blown on White House time is a bit different than trusting international intelligence to protect the nation. :p



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Quote:
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[quote]Originally posted by goombah:
[b]If lying about sex is an impeachable offense, certainly lying about reasons to go to war and suffering the worst terrrorist attack ever would qualify.
Bad intelligence....is reason for impeachement?
[/b][/quote]Yes sir.


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Ah.

Well then I feel that Kerry should be removed from the ballot.

After all, he relies on internet message boards for his debate "facts" :p

Thank you, sir.



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Whether it's a wire or not is arguable. I still say that it isn't a wire. But one thing that is not disputable - it's not his spine since we all know W. is spineless. :p

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As asinine as the threads against Kerry are, this is also a bit ludicrous.

Wire? Come on, it's obvious that it's a bar of soap.

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By the way, does anybody else see the similarity between this Bush picture and the Man From Another Place in Twin Peaks? :p

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Re: Bush's Bulge: a radio receiver from Rove? #75151
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Radio transmited devices have come a long way since they were first introduced. If that really was a wire it was an ancient one from the 70's and considering all the technical applications the president could use I don't think he'd use one that size.

The FBI doesn't even use devices that big. But this wouldn't be the FBI's technology - it would be your secret services. Much more advanced than your regular law enforcement devices because your CIA and other agencies don't let the FBI have the same technology for the simple reason the FBI have to reveal everything they use.

Then consider the position. Surely there's better areas of the body to hide it, if say the allegations are true. Let's entertain the thought that yes he's wearing a wire. Surely the front of the body would be the most appropriate place to hide it?


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Quote:
Originally posted by goombah:
But one thing that is not disputable - it's not his spine since we all know W. is spineless. :p
Be that as it may, it is more supportive than the flip-flopping record of John Kerry, who might as well be a bowl of Jello. :p



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Quote:
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The article said he wasn't wearing one...

[quote]Nor was the bulge from a bulletproof vest, according to campaign and White House officials; they said Mr. Bush was not wearing one.
[/quote]Howard Stern said this morning that its a bullet proof vest - he knows about those things.


Its amazing that in this case, I actually believe Howard Stern over the White House. Millionaire Stern certainly needs security, therefore it is credible that he knows about bullet proof vests. Also, the Bush photo does NOT look like just a tailoring problem. The picture doesn't lie - the edges of the "T" or box on Bush's back are too sharply defined to be a coincidence.

It is perfectly fine for the President to protect himself. But why the lie about wearing a bullet proof vest?


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To not give inspiration to would-be assasinators?

Then again, to quote a certain man from a certain presidential ticket, you know what he says it is?

"His Battery!"


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