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Again, one thing is to be connected, while another is to be the real thing....but if you say its the same stuff...than ok
Also I never said personally that he was a nobody but instead i said someone else allegedly said this. But you call them all liars...so ok but again, dont put words in mu mouth.
He who can never endure the bad will never see the good
Again, one thing is to be connected, while another is to be the real thing....but if you say its the same thing...than ok
To be the real thing? What are you even talking about? I have a lot of respect for you my man, but I am not understanding you. Are you talking about him being a Kelly Park Crip? I've never said he was a gangbanger. He however was a tough guy and was far from being a pushover. Are you disagreeing with me on that? Where is the disagreement?
But you had to play it cool, had to do it your way Had to be a fool, had to throw it all away
Re: Suge Knight
[Re: jace]
#1071052 10/05/2305:05 AM10/05/2305:05 AM
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....and again, I never said personally that he was a nobody but instead i said someone else allegedly said this. But you call them all liars...so ok but again, dont put words in my mouth.
He who can never endure the bad will never see the good
I really dont know...and I really dont care. Sorry if i offended your "best pal" Eazy
My best pal? Geez. I did not mean to offend you T. Love your contributions to the forum. I think if anyone had called Suge a pushover or something that wasn't true, I would have reacted in a similar fashion. There's a lot of information out there that just isn't good information. None of it is your fault my friend. I apologize if I came off too harshly here
But you had to play it cool, had to do it your way Had to be a fool, had to throw it all away
....and again, I never said personally that he was a nobody but instead i said someone else allegedly said this. But you call them all liars...so ok but again, dont put words in my mouth.
If someone said Eazy wasn't ganbanger then I would agree. If those "old Crips" said that, then I am agreeing with that. Mob James on the other hand has been busted in many lies, particularly when it comes to Tupac. He also claims to have never snitched when there's paperwork with photographs of him. Not to mention, FG and the homies from his own neighborhood have no reason to lie about that
We're getting off the wrong foot here T and I hate seeing that because you're someone I really like around here. Anyway, I think I've said what I wanted to say
But you had to play it cool, had to do it your way Had to be a fool, had to throw it all away
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Originally Posted by Giacalone
Originally Posted by Toodoped
I really dont know...and I really dont care. Sorry if i offended your "best pal" Eazy
My best pal? Geez. I did not mean to offend you T. Love your contributions to the forum. I think if anyone had called Suge a pushover or something that wasn't true, I would have reacted in a similar fashion. There's a lot of information out there that just isn't good information. None of it is your fault my friend. I apologize if I came off too harshly here
Same here bud and you damn know that I personally see you as real life encyclopedia regarding these stuff, since I already told you many times. I really dont know who is lying and who is telling the truth since theres too much info out there, BUT I believe you and I also apologize if I made some wrong statements bud. Sorry again.
Btw, heres one original artist
He who can never endure the bad will never see the good
Re: Suge Knight
[Re: jace]
#1071058 10/05/2305:31 AM10/05/2305:31 AM
Thank you bro. That means a lot. I was so upset with myself for not having worded a few things differently, but yeah this can happen unfortunately. You were like the last person I wanted to piss of though lol
Ahhh talking about underrated artists!! If anyone is underrated then it's X-Raided. One of the dopest out there for sure. Glad he's no longer in prison
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Originally Posted by Giacalone
Thank you bro. That means a lot. I was so upset with myself for not having worded a few things differently, but yeah this can happen unfortunately. You were like the last person I wanted to piss of though lol
Ahhh talking about underrated artists!! If anyone is underrated then it's X-Raided. One of the dopest out there for sure. Glad he's no longer in prison
Same thoughts here bro. Lots of respect to you and yours bud.
Btw, wasnt Brotha Lynch or Mr. Doctor also in jail regarding some murder or maybe Im mixing stuff with X-Raided?
He who can never endure the bad will never see the good
Thank you bro. That means a lot. I was so upset with myself for not having worded a few things differently, but yeah this can happen unfortunately. You were like the last person I wanted to piss of though lol
Ahhh talking about underrated artists!! If anyone is underrated then it's X-Raided. One of the dopest out there for sure. Glad he's no longer in prison
Same thoughts here bro. Lots of respect to you and yours bud.
Btw, wasnt Brotha Lynch or Mr. Doctor also in jail regarding some murder or maybe Im mixing stuff with X-Raided?
Much luv my man!! Same to you and yours
Mr. Doctor did go to prison for murder, but he wasn't in there for long if my memory serves me correctly
But you had to play it cool, had to do it your way Had to be a fool, had to throw it all away
Giacalone, this is a bit off topic but speaking of real rappers, have you heard of Conejo?
If I'm not mistaken he was supposed to sign for Death Row in the 90s but it panned out after Death Row fell apart and Conejo went his own way until he became a fugitive in 2002 (I think) after a killing at a party. He was on the run and dropped mistakes and albums like it's nothing. Whereas we're still waiting for Dr. Dre next project ????
Conejo was also connected to La EME; he was with the Westside Harpys (same set that Danny Roman, a very powerful EME member was from; he was shanked a few years back).
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Originally Posted by Giacalone
Originally Posted by Toodoped
Originally Posted by Giacalone
Thank you bro. That means a lot. I was so upset with myself for not having worded a few things differently, but yeah this can happen unfortunately. You were like the last person I wanted to piss of though lol
Ahhh talking about underrated artists!! If anyone is underrated then it's X-Raided. One of the dopest out there for sure. Glad he's no longer in prison
Same thoughts here bro. Lots of respect to you and yours bud.
Btw, wasnt Brotha Lynch or Mr. Doctor also in jail regarding some murder or maybe Im mixing stuff with X-Raided?
Much luv my man!! Same to you and yours
Mr. Doctor did go to prison for murder, but he wasn't in there for long if my memory serves me correctly
Thanks for the info bro. Black Market Records used to be a very scary label during the old days.
Btw, regarding LA and NY disses, heres another from the east coast which I personally like a lot...verses like "That joker act, you can save for Jack Nicholson" or "For niggas who earned. You learned, you sojourned. Then you returned as an intelligent, positive messenger, not an experiment negative Lucifer"...are pure gold
He who can never endure the bad will never see the good
@CB I love Conejo. Yeah, 25th street. He's definitely a real one and I'm happy he's free. He had a good relationship with Toker. I'm not sure how familiar you are with Toker and Brownside from Eastside Trece, but those guys were extremely dangerous. Tokes was supposedly doing hits for the cartels when he was murdered in 2018. He was just psychotic lol
He was also super close to Eazy and I know he hurt a lot of people on his behalf. Keep in mind, he was an artist on Ruthless lol and he's just a gangbanger bullying people, extorting people and scaring people. In around '98, 99', he got life for murder. Later it got overturned and he went back to the music thing
Funny story from Tokes
But you had to play it cool, had to do it your way Had to be a fool, had to throw it all away
50 Cent is currently on the European leg of his Final Lap tour. Over the years, the rapper has had a lot of criticism of Diddy, but this week he made a very harsh statement. During his concert in Latvia, 50 Cent said that he is convinced that Diddy is behind the murder of 2Pac. Before the concert, the rapper had spoken on Instagram about the fact that Duane 'Keefe D' Davis, who is currently the main suspect in the 2Pac murder case, has claimed in multiple interviews that Diddy hired him to kill 2Pac. During the concert he referred to his statements on Instagram: "I really have to stop doing that. I talk to a therapist who tries to help me with the things I say. Sometimes it's crazy shit that comes out of my mouth for no reason "Maybe I said those things because Diddy killed 2Pac. I wanted to see what I saw online."
The death of 2Pac has been a matter that has gripped the entire world for decades. It is not the first time that Diddy has been linked to the murder of the legendary rapper. For example, Diddy had a close bond with The Notorious BIG, who is often seen as 2Pac's nemesis . Both Biggie's and 2Pac's deaths are still not (completely) resolved.
Hollander unrelated but I'm going to the show tonight in Zagreb!
I did see the post though; I mean 50 Cent is infamous for being a troll.
And I just realized I haven't replied to you @Giacalone - yeah Conejo is an awesome rapper. I've heard of Toker as well; and Eazy E was definitely very respected among the Chicanos.
Hollander unrelated but I'm going to the show tonight in Zagreb!
I did see the post though; I mean 50 Cent is infamous for being a troll.
And I just realized I haven't replied to you @Giacalone - yeah Conejo is an awesome rapper. I've heard of Toker as well; and Eazy E was definitely very respected among the Chicanos.
50 Cent rants about P Diddy are famous lol. Will Diddy be arrested though?
Hollander unrelated but I'm going to the show tonight in Zagreb!
I did see the post though; I mean 50 Cent is infamous for being a troll.
And I just realized I haven't replied to you @Giacalone - yeah Conejo is an awesome rapper. I've heard of Toker as well; and Eazy E was definitely very respected among the Chicanos.
50 Cent rants about P Diddy are famous lol. Will Diddy be arrested though?
No, they have nothing solid on him. The paper trail is long gone, Zip is gone, pretty much all of the players are gone.
He pretty much got away with murder. What many fail to realize is that the murder of Tupac hinged on Zip's gun and more importantly, Puff's money. I can almost guarantee you that Tupac would still be alive if it wasn't for that element. And even though there are surviving witnesses with ties to Zip who assert that he was compensated, it is not enough for a winnable case.
But you had to play it cool, had to do it your way Had to be a fool, had to throw it all away
Hollander unrelated but I'm going to the show tonight in Zagreb!
I did see the post though; I mean 50 Cent is infamous for being a troll.
And I just realized I haven't replied to you @Giacalone - yeah Conejo is an awesome rapper. I've heard of Toker as well; and Eazy E was definitely very respected among the Chicanos.
50 Cent rants about P Diddy are famous lol. Will Diddy be arrested though?
No, they have nothing solid on him. The paper trail is long gone, Zip is gone, pretty much all of the players are gone.
He pretty much got away with murder. What many fail to realize is that the murder of Tupac hinged on Zip's gun and more importantly, Puff's money. I can almost guarantee you that Tupac would still be alive if it wasn't for that element. And even though there are surviving witnesses with ties to Zip who assert that he was compensated, it is not enough for a winnable case.
Thanks G !
"The king is dead, long live the king!"
Re: Suge Knight
[Re: jace]
#1072748 10/21/2306:21 AM10/21/2306:21 AM
Did Suge have Poochie Fouse whack Biggie or did he have David Mack, Rafael Perez and Amir Muhammad do the job. Depends on whom you ask apparently, Greg Kading or Phil Carson.
Phil Carson and those guys are out of their mind. There were no Rampart officers working for Death Row. None. Rigorous investigations have been conducted to verify this fact. Not to mention, Rafael Perez had an airtight alibi for the night of Biggie's murder. And no, he was not working the Petersen Museum like some of those conspiracy theorists like to claim. That was a whole different Perez from a whole different unit with a whole different serial number. This was also thoroughly investigated.
These officers had no connections to Reggie Wright Jr. or Wrightway Security. They never met Reggie and they never met Suge. These were Rampart cops who were crooks and whose only link to Suge were through Kevin Gaines, a Rampart CRASH officer who was killed in that famous road rage incident of '97. Gaines was dating Suge's ex-wife Sharitha. He was not employed by Suge and he did not have a relationship with Suge of any kind. If you know Suge, you know he's not gonna employ anyone who is messing with his women.
This entire theory of crooked cops and their connection to this case reminds me of a game of "six degrees of separation," where the goal is to connect individuals through a chain of acquaintances. It's simply absurd.
I can't be 100% about Biggie's killer, but I'd still wager a million dollars with no hesitation that it was Poochie. He had done things for Suge before Biggie and the homeboys knew that. There is a certain circle who is very convinced of Poochie's involvement and there is a reason for that. This isn't something that just fell out of the sky.
But you had to play it cool, had to do it your way Had to be a fool, had to throw it all away
Phil Carson and those guys are out of their mind. There were no Rampart officers working for Death Row. None. Rigorous investigations have been conducted to verify this fact. Not to mention, Rafael Perez had an airtight alibi for the night of Biggie's murder. And no, he was not working the Petersen Museum like some of those conspiracy theorists like to claim. That was a whole different Perez from a whole different unit with a whole different serial number. This was also thoroughly investigated.
These officers had no connections to Reggie Wright Jr. or Wrightway Security. They never met Reggie and they never met Suge. These were Rampart cops who were crooks and whose only link to Suge were through Kevin Gaines, a Rampart CRASH officer who was killed in that famous road rage incident of '97. Gaines was dating Suge's ex-wife Sharitha. He was not employed by Suge and he did not have a relationship with Suge of any kind. If you know Suge, you know he's not gonna employ anyone who is messing with his women.
This entire theory of crooked cops and their connection to this case reminds me of a game of "six degrees of separation," where the goal is to connect individuals through a chain of acquaintances. It's simply absurd.
I can't be 100% about Biggie's killer, but I'd still wager a million dollars with no hesitation that it was Poochie. He had done things for Suge before Biggie and the homeboys knew that. There is a certain circle who is very convinced of Poochie's involvement and there is a reason for that. This isn't something that just fell out of the sky.
I'm glad you responded because you seem knowledgeable and I hope you'll keep an open mind as I present the evidence which is leading me to support the Poole/Carson investigation over the Kading investigation. If it was just Phil Carson's word against Greg Kading's, then I would agree that they just cancel each other out. However, that isn't the case in my opinion, after doing some digging. In addition to Russell Poole, the first investigator on the case. There is Poole's supervisor Sergio Robleto, who was hired by Voletta Smalls to investigate the LAPD. Also, Richard Valdemar from the LA County Sheriff's Office, supports Poole's theory. Confidential informant Mario Hammond, a trusted informant for the Secret Service, FBI and LAPD has given sworn testimony that he witnessed David Mack, Rafael Perez, Reggie Wright Jr and Suge Knight together in Las Vegas, at Suge's Club 662. Confidential informant Kenneth Boagni in a sworn statement, said that."Kenny Boagni, who became friends with Perez when the two were in prison together, said he feared for his life and for his family and did not want to be deposed, attorneys for both sides said Wednesday.
FBI Informant Mario Hammonds was deposed in San Quentin Prison by lawyer Rob Frank on behalf of Voletta Wallace during the civil trial against the LAPD. In the deposition, Hammonds implicates Suge Knight, Reggie Wright Jr, David Mack, and Rafael Perez in orchestrating the murder of Biggie. Journalist Don Sikorski reveals a hidden document created by LAPD's Internal Affairs that has detailed information that implicates both Mack and Perez in the murder of Biggie. Phil Carson discusses the implications of this document on the case moving forward. https://www.podcastone.com/episode/Episode-8-The-FBI-Informant-Suge-Knight--San-Quentin-Prison
Re: Suge Knight
[Re: jace]
#1072950 10/23/2303:45 AM10/23/2303:45 AM
Dig further. Mario Hammond, Kevin Hackie, Psycho Mike and Kenny Boagni have all been discredited. I went back and forth with RJ Bond for years, but I'm done responding to this nonsense
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