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Arms Trafficking and OC #952943
09/12/18 11:57 AM
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I thought it would be fitting to start up a thread concerning the involvement of organized crime groups in arms trafficking . After all it's an activity that often gets mentioned in relation to organized crime , but is seldom explored .


I'm sure everyone here knows that the biggest arms traffickers out there aren't organized crime groups , but corrupt businessmen who are unofficially sanctioned by the various governments of the world . Fellows like Sarkis Soghanalian , Viktor Bout , etc. , .

That said there obviously are organized crime groups involved in trafficking arms , but this is where the topic gets interesting . After all one never hears of open air arms markets in the developed world , like one hears of open air drug markets . And while most people who buy guns from gangsters are probably gangsters or criminals themselves , there surely must be demand for illegal firearms among regular civilians . Especially in countries where it's very hard to obtain guns even for such mundane purposes as hunting .


Not to mention that there obviously are some paranoid anti government types in countries where firearms laws are rather liberal ( like the US ) , who are very much against the idea of buying firearms from legitimate dealers , that organized crime groups could sell guns to . Yet there seems to be next to no information available concerning gangsters selling guns to these ( probably fairly sizeable ) markets .

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OC (Italian and others) are very big in arms trafficking in Europe, Mexico and elsewhere in the world where they either have very tough gun control laws or ban non-police and military from owning firearms. But, not here in the US, where it's easy to get guns compared with the rest of the world.


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Originally Posted by Turnbull
OC (Italian and others) are very big in arms trafficking in Europe, Mexico and elsewhere in the world where they either have very tough gun control laws or ban non-police and military from owning firearms. But, not here in the US, where it's easy to get guns compared with the rest of the world.


The US is also a supplier of illicit weapons in Europe.


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What's strange to me is that open air arms markets run by organized crime groups don't seem to exist . Nor do any organized crime groups seem to be involved in selling arms on street corners or what have you .


Of course the more thoughtful ones are rightfully worried about vetting their customers properly when it comes to arms , however history abounds with unthinking gangsters , so it's surprising that no gangster of that sort has ever engaged in the practice of selling guns to anyone and everyone .


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