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Ive read several explanations for the may 2013 attempted hit on bonanno soldier enzo stagno. Ive read that Michael Meldish had a personal beef with stagno, and the shooting was not ok’d. Yet Lucchese associate Terrence Caldwell and several Lucchese leaders were charged with ordering the murder. Anyone have the real story behind the shooting?

Re: Enzo stagno shooting [Re: Zero6245] #949859
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Originally Posted by Zero6245
Ive read several explanations for the may 2013 attempted hit on bonanno soldier enzo stagno. Ive read that Michael Meldish had a personal beef with stagno, and the shooting was not ok’d. Yet Lucchese associate Terrence Caldwell and several Lucchese leaders were charged with ordering the murder. Anyone have the real story behind the shooting?


The Lucchese administration were not charged with Stagno's attempted murder.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/press-release/file/970356/download
Here is the Lucchese indictment. Terrence Caldwell was the only one charged with the attempted murder of the unnamed Bonanno soldier (Enzo Stagno).

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So what was the reason behind the shooting?

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Michael Meldish had been sleeping with Michael Mancuso's girlfriend while Mancuso was serving fifteen years for murder conspiracy. Meldish and Mancuso were both once members of the East Harlem Purple Gang, and Meldish was actually Mancuso's higher-up in that organization. But fast-forward to the 21st century, Mancuso was the imprisoned boss of the Bonanno family and Meldish was just a Lucchese associate.

Mancuso sent a message to Meldish to stop seeing his wife, but it was ignored. So, in August of 2012, Bonanno acting capo Ernest Aiello (Mancuso's nephew) assaulted Meldish right in front of Rao's Restaurant at the center of the annual Pleasant Avenue Festival in honor of Saint Anthony Giglio.

The NYPD's Organized Crime Squad got involved and told Matthew Madonna, street boss of the Luccheses, not to retaliate and that "they would take care of this," meaning the police would handle it.

Then on May 29, 2013, Enzo Stagno, a Bronx-Bonanno guy whom Gang Land News sources said had been made in the past few months, was shot in his car on First Avenue and 111th Street. He survived. The assailent, a black man, left on foot, running around frantically and caught by blurry CCTV footage. It later turned out that Meldish had gotten Terrence Caldwell to do the hit, and Meldish would be the getaway driver. But Meldish got cold feet and sped off.

The Lucchese administration, presumably pissed off about the Stagno hit, the pressure from the Bonannos, and the pressure from the police, decided to murder Meldish, and they did so using - guess who - Terrence Caldwell, who obviously had a revenge complex going on.

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nick from tampa that makes perfect sense. will see if the have the goods to prove it. be a interesting luchese trial. looks like the case against crea jr is crumbling they gave him bail on murders that never happens. be cool to see a boss and under boss shit maybe a capo or 2 all at a defense table during a mob trial think the last time that happend was wild bill and a few colombos verse the gov or nope allie boy and jack deross went to trial together around 05 06 for killing wild bill. but the trial was out on long island for whatever reason and got little press

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Why wasn’t caldwell punished for the shooting of stagno?

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Originally Posted by pmac
nick from tampa that makes perfect sense. will see if the have the goods to prove it. be a interesting luchese trial. looks like the case against crea jr is crumbling they gave him bail on murders that never happens. be cool to see a boss and under boss shit maybe a capo or 2 all at a defense table during a mob trial think the last time that happend was wild bill and a few colombos verse the gov or nope allie boy and jack deross went to trial together around 05 06 for killing wild bill. but the trial was out on long island for whatever reason and got little press


You're forgetting about Tommy Gioeli and Co. going to trial in 2014 or whatever.

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Originally Posted by Zero6245
Why wasn’t caldwell punished for the shooting of stagno?


Well he definitely made up for it by killing Meldish in the end.

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gioeli was such a low acting boss i forgot. blows my mind and must piss the feds off so bad he gets out in a few years think 2022 give or take. they rewarded all the shooters of a nyc police offer whose only mistake was falling in love with some old gangster ex girl. no one except the shooters was convicted and there free.

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Originally Posted by pmac
gioeli was such a low acting boss i forgot. blows my mind and must piss the feds off so bad he gets out in a few years think 2022 give or take. they rewarded all the shooters of a nyc police offer whose only mistake was falling in love with some old gangster ex girl. no one except the shooters was convicted and there free.

Anytime I hear of him all I think of is the ping pong lawsuit....lmao


"Whackin' the boss....another thing I get left out of."
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Originally Posted by pmac
gioeli was such a low acting boss i forgot. blows my mind and must piss the feds off so bad he gets out in a few years think 2022 give or take. they rewarded all the shooters of a nyc police offer whose only mistake was falling in love with some old gangster ex girl. no one except the shooters was convicted and there free.


If you don't like GIoeli on a personal level that's fine, but you can hardly call him a "low" acting boss. Gioeli has had the longest tenure as acting boss since the Third Colombo War. He was in power from 2003-2008, whereas Alphonse Persico was only in power on the street for about a year.
Gioeli also presided over various induction ceremonies and pretty much led the family through it's rebuilding, which actually went pretty well until Joseph Competiello caused a domino effect that culminated in "Mafia Takedown Day."

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Thanks for that explanation NickyfromTampa

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Originally Posted by NickyfromTampa
He was in power from 2003-2008, whereas Alphonse Persico was only in power on the street for about a year.


Absolute nonsense. Allie Boy was in charge as soon as he got out in '95. Andy was the face of the family until '98, but he didn't move a muscle without Allie's say.

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Originally Posted by ralphie_cifaretto
Originally Posted by NickyfromTampa
He was in power from 2003-2008, whereas Alphonse Persico was only in power on the street for about a year.


Absolute nonsense. Allie Boy was in charge as soon as he got out in '95. Andy was the face of the family until '98, but he didn't move a muscle without Allie's say.


A Daily News article from January 8, 1995, summed it up nicely. It summed up what Alphonse was up to, and how he spent most of his time working at Romantique Limousines since his supervised release didn't expire until 1997. It reported that he was very reluctant to take the reigns. The article was written by Jerry Capeci, who had some high level sources under his belt at that time, including Lin DeVecchio, the head of the Colombo squad.
Also, Andrew 'Andy Mush' Russo was indicted as acting boss in 1996 and 1998.

Do you have any evidence that Alphonse was running things behind the scenes? Or are you just assuming?

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