Which major family would u say is the easiest to become inducted in to?

If I had to guess

1. Bonanno
2. Colombo
3. Gambino
4. Lucchese
5. Genovese

If you want to swap 3 and 4 go ahead

1)Colombo
2)Bonanno
3)Lucchese/Gambino
4)Genovese

Out NY:

1)Decavalcante
2)Philly
3)Patriarca
4) Detroit (the family is very based on blood ties)
5)Outfit (few made men and a huge numbers of associates)

Why do you put Colombos 1st, Furio?

Because they are the most weak and little of the 5 families,plus mostly of its attivities are in Brooklyn and if they made larry sessa in prison for sure they are in desperate search of wiseguys.

Larry Sessa been with the family since the mid-1980s, a loyal enforcer and shylock, tough guy, did some work in the Colombo war, got shot at by Orena rebels, kept his mouth shut and did some decent stretches in prison before being made. What qualities does he have that you think should have barred him from induction?

Sorry I dont know the sessa history but the fact that was made in prison let me think that the colombos had a desperate need of made men. Anyway I think that the colombos is the most easy family where be made.

Has nothing to do with easiest !

It has to do with who you know or who you were born into .

The Boss has everything to do with it !

Fascinating, how the difference between Cosa Nostra mobsters being made in prison is desperate. But when you compare Thieves in Law, then being crowned in prison is more honorable than on the outside.

The thievs in law born as prison gang during soviet times where the possibilities to be send in a gulag or a prison was very frequent,so go to jail and dont speak even being tortured was a sign of brave. While in the cosa nostra every mobster doesn't want to go in prison so (in the us) they must pay prison gang to protection.

@Furio - He was slated to be made in December 2010 but the ceremony was cancelled due to heavy law enforcement pressure. The following month came the huge indictments. Sessa was in Brooklyn lockup and the entire street administration were there too so, out of respect for him, they inducted him then and there. I don’t see how that screams desperation at all. It really makes no difference whether they made him in prison or waited until he was released. It’s not like he can be an active soldier in prison. It was out of respect for him scheduled to be made the previous month.

No family is the easiest. These are some bizarre questions. Serp hit the nail on the head. It all depends on the people you are close to and who is willing to propose you. 99.9% of the time you're not gonna even get close to getting inducted into any family unless you're from where they are from and you got at least one heavyweight vouching for you. The Colombos have always been the smallest family, but that doesn't mean they don't know what they're doing.

Kenny Gallo called the Colombos the most "ghetto" of the five families. Considering how far he infiltrated that family while being nothing more than a dope peddling surfer boy from Southern California, I'm guessing the Colombos' standards for getting made are low.

Guess all you want, but the evidence shows otherwise. Just because they brought on a drug dealing Asian as an associate doesn’t prove their standards for induction are low. Gallo was an intelligent, wealthy earner who had connections to mobsters from across the country before hooking up with the Colombos.

Well aren’t some families more secretive than others? If a family is more, its likely to be harder to become a made member.

Kenji had been around for many years and had a good reputation for a time, but he's far from being the most truthful cooperator. He claimed to have been close to John Baudanza, which simply wasn't true. It is true that he met and associated with many of these people, but not to the extent he claimed. After all, this is somebody who once complained about being rejected by the boys in NY. His extreme bitterness towards them completely nullifies his credibility.




Just because one family has had more cooperators than some of the other families or had the misfortune of having been infiltrated doesn't mean that family is any less secretive. The rules are the same for everyone. Did every Bonnano trust Donnie Brasco? No. In fact, most didn't. There's a Lefty in every family.

All circumstance , that family was a top family but it comes back to the boss how much has the Feds pressure them at the time ,and the Colombo’s were a good family at one point and shit happens . The Westside had a great run and it slowly is unwinding and that came down to a boss letting guys take plea deals.

And that Gallo was around Teddy and Teddy was broke and drugged and drunk everyday when he got out till he went back in . He was broke because the blood family knew he was lose and greedy and see where that got him . They are hoping he has changed this run but I doubt it he is a bad apple but he will kill.

Getting into the Los Angeles family today probably isn't very hard. I'm sure a surviving Milano owns a porn shop somewhere in the valley. Go in there and give him a $20 dollar bill and tell him you want to go on record, and you're living the wiseguy dream.

@Serpiente: You do realise that Teddy has been cited multiple times as the family’s likely heir, and Kenny himself said he would move up to boss fairly quickly after his release? Not to mention he was on the familys ruling panel when he was busted in the 2010 indictment. Doesn’t sound like a person whose “blood family knew he was lose and greedy”.

Kenny Gallo sounds like a very low lever associate who built up his reputation by testifying in cases. His own version of. meeting with Teddy Persico makes him sound small. He said he bought them some girls for sex, and had a limo. Mafia members he had met showed up with Persico, and took off with the girls, just telling Kenji Gallo thanks, and leaving him there standing around like a fool. He thought he was going to be bought along. I have never seen him listed as made, or even that high up as an associate. I do think that the Colombos may be the easiest to get made into. The Genovese and Gambinos sound as if they have tougher requirements.

Of course he’s never been listed as made, jace, he’s Asian for Christ’s sakes.

TRADER

Freedom Fighters, Not Rebels.

They can be the same thing. Ever seen Star Wars?

The Colombos was hit hard by LE due the many rats they had that hit the members with very long sentences so they have to replace the men on the streets that what I mean with "desperate to made people".

Colombos members arrested from 2010.

http://theblackhand.club/forum/view...;hilit=Colombo+family+imprisoned+members

March 2010:
Capo Theodore "Teddy/Skinny" Persico Jr.
Soldier Thomas Petrizzo


May 2010:
Underboss John "Sonny" Franzese (IP)


January 2011: 
Soldier Frank "Frankie P/Cap" Politi


January 2011:
Acting Boss Andrew "Andy/Mushy" Russo
Acting UnderBoss Benjamin "The Little Guy/Claw/Benji" Castellazzo
Consiglieri Richard “Ritchie Nerves” Fusco
Capos Joseph "Junior Lollipops" Carna, Theodore "Teddy/Skinny" Persico Jr (IP), Dennis "Fat/Little/The Beard" DeLucia and Reynold "Ren" Maragni
Acting Capo Anthony Russo
Soldiers Emanuele “Manny” Favuzza, Vincent “Jimmy Gooch” Febbraro, Joseph Savarese, John Maggio, Nicky Rizzo, Ralph Scopo Jr. and Daniel Capaldo


August 2011:
Capo Theodore "Skinny Teddy" Persico Jr. (IP)


January 2012:
Acting Consiglieri Thomas “Tom Mix/Mr. T” Farese


April 2015:
Soldier Giovanni “John” Cerbone


July 2015:
Acting Capo Luca DiMatteo

@Furio: Good work there, but which of those members were hit with "long sentences?" Skinny Teddy Persico Jr. was given a ten year plea and Joseph Savarese was given eight or nine. That's about it.
So no, two made men being given relatively lengthy sentences does not make a family "desperate" for new members. And let's not forget that in the grand scheme of things, ten years isn't even that long for a relatively young wiseguy.

Secondly, the majority of those busts hit one crew, Teddy Persico's Dyker Heights/South Brooklyn crew. Of course there were minor busts elsewhere but, as you can see, none of them hit any crews particularly hard. So no, one crew being hit with a big bust in the past decade also does not constitute a desperation for new blood. Elderly Joseph Carna being indicted doesn't really affect his crew's need for new blood. Luca DiMatteo being arrested does not hurt his crew that much since the bust revolved around one particular shakedown victim, and not an entire racket or industry.

Thirdly, the Colombos have skated off relatively easy on busts and, more importantly, relatively easy in terms of sentences. The 2011 indictment mostly (the key word here is MOSTLY) fizzled out for the Colombos, with their acting boss getting only a little more than a "time served" sentence, Benjamin Castellazzo getting roughly four years, etc. Hell, their acting consigliere was acquitted. Compared to the Bonannos, Luccheses, Gambinos and even the West Side, the feds seem to have put the Colombos on a backburner for the most part. The 2008 and 2011 indictments were the only ones that could have really affected the overall structure and chain of command.

In summary:
You're statement about many members being hit with long sentences isn't accurate because most people took lenient pleas.
The only bust that was able to take down and disrupt a proper crew was the 2011 indictment of Teddy Persico. The others took down the heads, sure, but not whatever manpower and new recruits are beneath them.
The Colombos haven't even been busted that much compared to a lot of the other four families, so it's a pretty strange point to make.

Ok Nicky I understood my mistake.

Fair enough, cheers for conceding that Furio.

Good post. Id say the colombos are quietly making a comeback. Not to the levels like the Bonannos did in 90’s, but id say the colombos r slowly recovering.

also the bonannos making a comeback in the recent years
they have recruiting a lot of made guys
also mancuso is about to get out
i would say the lucchese family are at the worst time right now (with all of their admin are in the can)
but as far as who is easier to get made into ? i have no idea...