I hope I am not opening a can of worms by saying this, but I am looking forward to the debates tonite.. Now, hopefully I can make an informed decision. I am leaning towards one candidate in particular. I have noticed some rather interesting points on this message board. Looking forward to seeing your comments regarding the debates tommorow.

Tonight is Return of the Jedi movie night, so I'll have to flick between the debate or something.

I've already decided who I'm voting for, which is no surprise, so the debate won't change me. Hopefully, this will continue to help Bush, as he will refute Kerry's attacks on the War on Iraq and Bush will go after Kerry's senate record and stance on some issues.

Will be awful interesting, though not likely Nixon-Kennedy.

I'm not going to watch - the original season of the Sopranos (Episode 4) is on at 9:00.

I would prefer a true debate and not a joint campaign appearance like this is going to be. Let them answer questions about themselves and their beliefs that are not known in advance. This version has too many rules and limitations to be worthwhile.

Hi, Double-J...obviously my mind is made up, too.
But I'll still watch to see each candidate does as this is supposedly what will help make up the minds of many undecided voters.

Apparently, my favorite (unintentionally) comic liberal, Paul Krugman
... has his own ideas about how the debate will turn out.

And fortunately for all the rest of us, Don Luskin has the goods on
Krugman.

http://www.nationalreview.com/nrof_luskin/nrof_luskin.asp

Anyone think Kerry will put some makeup on his newly orange skintone? Maybe he's hoping his Fairy Godmother (whoever that is) can turn him from a pumpkin into a real candidate.

Apple

Not to change the subject, But I was watching that late last night. Good show last night I mite add. But the point I want to bring up to you is: LOOK how skinny those folks were back then. Just five short years ago and look at them now. After being on a hit show those people have packed on some pounds. and I mean every one of them. Tonys head has more hair and the kids look like little children.


Well, back to the debates for tonight. Good thing we have cable, DVDs and VCRs and other things to watch.

I have seen enough bullshit in the last few months. I will check in during the commercials if there are any in what I am watching. Otherwise roll up your pant legs. The shit will flow tonight!

Then after that you have to listen to all the blow hard TV people try and tell you what you just heard. So you get two cases of bullshit on one night.

You know who would really be great to go over the debates and give you the highlights:
Penn and Teller Now that I would turn in for!

Yeah, and Tony's kids looked so young. Take a look at Meadow and then go over to the Sopranos thread to see her now.

I can't wait for the debates. I wish there was an accurate way to gage how many truly undecided voters are really out there. I would love to see how influenced an undecided voter is by these debates.

Here are some quotes from Rolling Stone magazine's current issue from artists touring in support of John Kerry:

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Amazing.

:rolleyes:

Just goes to show you don't need brains to be able to carry a tune.

Apple

Here's one of my favorite quotes:

:rolleyes:

:rolleyes: [/quote]I think he, like the rest of us, believed that the administration was telling us the truth. Colin Powell got up and told us about the WMD. There were none - so he was duped like the rest of us.

:rolleyes: [/quote]I think he, like the rest of us, believed that the administration was telling us the truth. Colin Powell got up and told us about the WMD. There were none - so he was duped like the rest of us. [/b][/quote]except that WE are not United States Senators who were able to read the exact same thing that the President read. If I tell you moby dick is about a tiger but you read the book then you would say no its about a shark. people who didn't read the book would have to take my word for it. He "read the book" he knows what it said and he came to his own conclusion.

So to say that he was tricked like the rest of us is not correct.

edit: and one last thing. Polish soldiers have found mustard gas and sirene (I don't know if the spelling is correct) gas and whole stockpiles of ways to fire those things. BUT you don't hear about that on the liberal media.

[/quote]Amazing.

:rolleyes:

Just goes to show you don't need brains to be able to carry a tune.

Apple [/b][/QUOTE]

Now, Now, come on Apple, What it really shows is that the people in the music world are just as misinformed as some of the other people who are touring this country and giving speaches. Could be that drugs cloud their thoughts also and playing with all those young girls softens their minds.

Won't fly, Don Marco.
Kerry saw the SAME Intelligence Reports that were made available to the President, and it was on that info that he based the statement above, AND his vote in favor of the war.

Now tonight (as in the past several months)...he will try & spin that he simply voted for 'authorization' for the President to go to war as a 'last resort'.

Gosh, I can't wait...I'll probably be able to recite it along with him!!

Apple

Won't fly, Don Marco.
Kerry saw the SAME Intelligence Reports that were made available to the President, and it was on that info that he based the statement above, AND his vote in favor of the war.

Now tonight (as in the past several months)...he will try & spin that he simply voted for 'authorization' for the President to go to war as a 'last resort'.

Gosh, I can't wait...I'll probably be able to recite it along with him!!

Apple [/b][/quote]we think alike apple lol

Would that also apply to Natalie Maines of the Dixie Chicks??

I thought it was a hoot a few years back when Don Imus referred to her as 'the little fat girl'.

He did admit though (as do I) that she sure can sing!!

Apple

[/quote]As most of you know, I stay out of potilical threads, but this is insane. Now, Im not 100% sure of this (I mean the the beginning of his presidency he choked on a chip while watching football) but my guess would be the PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES has more important things that need his attention than going to millitary funerals.Not saying millitary funerals arent important, but they are relatively small when it comes to the big scheme of things.

I have to disagree with you there, Don Sonny. If you remember, there were hundreds, if not thousands, of funerals and memorial services in the days after September 11th. Rudy Giuliani, who was dealing with the attacks on the city, with the fact that his fire dept. was decimated, that his command center was destroyed, that he was unable to enter City Hall, that he had to build an information center for the families, that he had to take charge of a recovery effort that was unimaginable, etc. AND the anthrax threats, made sure that either he, or someone from his administration, attended every one of them. He often went to six or more per day. AND he managed to squeeze in a flight to Arizona to watch the Yankees in the World Series, flew back to start the NYC Marathon, and then flew back to Arizona for Game 7. He never complained about being too tired or too busy. He explained that his father had taught him that weddings were fun, but funerals were mandatory. He felt that showing up to offer comfort was the LEAST he could offer the families, and I find it hard to believe that Bush didn't have time to attend even one.

I admit that I didn't vote for Bush in the first election, but I haven't made up my mind which way to go on this one. I am looking forward to the debates to sway me one way or the other.

Guliani was a Mayor, not President of the United States so you really can't compare them.

They better show the reactions of the canidates. Last night on Hannity and Colmes, they said they had every right to show the expressions from both canidates. It's going to be like pong if they show one person at a time. -Pat

Patrick they are not showing reactions from the other candidates. The question has come up many times and its in the debate rule book that they will not be shown.

I disagree. Although obviously NYC is much smaller than the entire USA, I also would imagine that in those weeks following the attacks, Giuliani had plenty of excuses to be "busy". What the man did in those days was so above and beyond, he was amazing. I truly cannot believe that Mr. President has been too busy in all this time to attend even one funeral. Sorry, but I just don't see it.

We shall see.

I wouldn't :rolleyes:

Um....Moby Dick is about a whale. :p

UM...Moby Dick is about a porn star

Tonights debates= Around and around we go.

Same thing over and over again.

NICEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

Kerry had a better suit. The rest was expected.


looking forward to the next debate

The best part was when Bush asked Kerry where he was going to get the money to do everything. Dream Kerry Dream
then Kerry said 240 billion was spend when only 119 billion was spent (per NBC News).
Caught stretching the truth.

I feel that Kerry was very articulate during the debates and therefore, he was able to get away with his distortions of the truth. I also feel that Bush was almost too timid in the debate. He had many oppurtunities to put Kerry in question rather than just defend himself, and he failed to take the shots. For example, he chose not to go into detail regarding Kerry's voting record.

But one thing about the debates really pissed me off, and whether your liberal or conservative, you have to agree with me. Literally all of the questions put Bush in a position where he had to defend himself. There were very few times where Kerry had to defend all the mistakes he has made while in political office and this seemed unfair to me.

That said, I thought the debate was dull. Both candidates repeated themselves often and I didnt learn anything more than what I already know. I will watch the next two debates, but this time I will make sure I have a pillow handy.