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Father and son both soldiers at the same crew ? #931738
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There was any case of father and son both soldiers in the same crew ? Or maybe different crew but same time ?

Re: Father and son both soldiers at the same crew ? [Re: MeyerLansky] #931745
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Originally Posted by MeyerLansky
There was any case of father and son both soldiers in the same crew ? Or maybe different crew but same time ?


Bonannos have had a lot of them because Joe Massino pushed for dads to make their sons.

Bonanno Examples:
From the 1990s until 2014/2015 father-and-son Vito & Joseph Grimaldi were soldiers in the family's Ridgewood crew. Now they are both capos.
From 1991-1993 father-and-son Vinny and Jerry Asaro were soldiers in the Howard Beach/Ozone Park crew. In 1993, Vinny was promoted to capo and was capo over his son until his arrest and demotion in the late 1990s. When Vinny was released in the mid-2000s, he was a soldier under Jerry Asaro, which Vinny despised. In 2012, Vinny formed his own crew from Jerry's crew because of an ongoing feud between the father-and-sons.
In the 1990s Joe Cammarano Jr. and Dino Cammarano were a soldiers in their dad's crew.
Joseph DeSimone has a grandson who is a soldier in his crew.
Vito Badamo Sr. and Vito Badamo Jr. were soldiers in the same crew and the two had stuff going on not only in Williamsburg, but also Providence, Rhode Island.
Gaspare Valenti was an associate in the Howard Beach crew from the 1960s-2014 but his son, Fat Sammy, was inducted into the crime family in 2013 and remains a soldier today, even though his father has flipped.
John 'Johnny Joe' Spirito Sr. is a soldier in the Bronx crew, and his son was recently an acting capo in the crew.
Pasquale 'Patty Boy' Maiorino and his father, Salvatore 'Chubby' Maiorino, were both soldiers in the same crew.
The Bascianos (Vinny Sr and Jr)
The Cantarellas
The Calabreses (Peter and Anthony)
The Chillis
The Coppas
The Indelicatos
The Mirabiles
The Navarras

There are probably dozens of other examples for the Bonannos alone. In fact, Vinny Asaro is a fourth or fifth generation mobster I think.

Re: Father and son both soldiers at the same crew ? [Re: MeyerLansky] #931747
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wow thanks a lot nicky !
i wonder how it feels when you get orders in front of your son

Re: Father and son both soldiers at the same crew ? [Re: MeyerLansky] #931748
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Originally Posted by MeyerLansky
wow thanks a lot nicky !
i wonder how it feels when you get orders in front of your son


Here's what Vincent Asaro thought of the situation:
"Fuck Jerry. Fuck him in his ass. Fucking Jerry is for Jerry. Jerry's for Jerry. I lost my son. I lost my son when I made him a skipper. I lost my son when I put him there. Jerry's for Jerry. Fucking greedy cocksucker. Greedy cocksucker. Got him a job. $600 a fucking week, he was sending your son (Anthony 'Fat Sammy' Valenti) to do everything. He didn’t do a fucking thing… (inaudible) the last fucking person in the world (inaudible). I lost my son when I made him as acting skipper."

Re: Father and son both soldiers at the same crew ? [Re: NickyfromTampa] #931751
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Originally Posted by NickyfromTampa
Originally Posted by MeyerLansky
wow thanks a lot nicky !
i wonder how it feels when you get orders in front of your son


Here's what Vincent Asaro thought of the situation:
"Fuck Jerry. Fuck him in his ass. Fucking Jerry is for Jerry. Jerry's for Jerry. I lost my son. I lost my son when I made him a skipper. I lost my son when I put him there. Jerry's for Jerry. Fucking greedy cocksucker. Greedy cocksucker. Got him a job. $600 a fucking week, he was sending your son (Anthony 'Fat Sammy' Valenti) to do everything. He didn’t do a fucking thing… (inaudible) the last fucking person in the world (inaudible). I lost my son when I made him as acting skipper."



Where can I read the rest of that wire tap? that sounds like an interesting rant

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Re: Father and son both soldiers at the same crew ? [Re: MeyerLansky] #931755
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Be a bit awkward if one was given the orders to kill the other..Eg If the son was dealing drugs in the open or skimming money..


The Mafia Is Not Primarily An Organisation Of Murderers.
First And Foremost,The Mafia Is Made Up Of Thieves.
It Is Driven By Greed And Controlled By Fear.

Between The Law And The Mafia, The Law Is Not The Most To Be Feared

"What if the Mafia were not an organization but a widespread Sicilian attitude of hostility towards the law?"

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Re: Father and son both soldiers at the same crew ? [Re: DE NIRO] #931757
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Originally Posted by DE NIRO
Be a bit awkward if one was given the orders to kill the other..Eg If the son was dealing drugs in the open or skimming money..


They both get whacked if one messes up badly. Leaving one of them alive is too dangerous.

Re: Father and son both soldiers at the same crew ? [Re: MeyerLansky] #931874
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Michael Franzese was in his dad's crew at one time.

I'm pretty sure Joe "Butch" Corrao took over his father's crew and then his son took it over after him.

Re: Father and son both soldiers at the same crew ? [Re: DE NIRO] #931898
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Originally Posted by DE NIRO
Be a bit awkward if one was given the orders to kill the other..Eg If the son was dealing drugs in the open or skimming money..

That's way too risky. They'd give the order without the other knowing about it beforehand.


"I die outside; I die in jail. It don't matter to me," -John Franzese
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wasn't vito badamo's father named willie?

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santoro's?

Re: Father and son both soldiers at the same crew ? [Re: Neo] #931972
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Originally Posted by Neo
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Be a bit awkward if one was given the orders to kill the other..Eg If the son was dealing drugs in the open or skimming money..


They both get whacked if one messes up badly. Leaving one of them alive is too dangerous.


John Franzese had to order TWO of his sons to be whacked at different points in his life.

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Originally Posted by Neo
Originally Posted by NickyfromTampa
Originally Posted by MeyerLansky
wow thanks a lot nicky !
i wonder how it feels when you get orders in front of your son


Here's what Vincent Asaro thought of the situation:
"Fuck Jerry. Fuck him in his ass. Fucking Jerry is for Jerry. Jerry's for Jerry. I lost my son. I lost my son when I made him a skipper. I lost my son when I put him there. Jerry's for Jerry. Fucking greedy cocksucker. Greedy cocksucker. Got him a job. $600 a fucking week, he was sending your son (Anthony 'Fat Sammy' Valenti) to do everything. He didn’t do a fucking thing… (inaudible) the last fucking person in the world (inaudible). I lost my son when I made him as acting skipper."



Where can I read the rest of that wire tap? that sounds like an interesting rant


His rants and wiretapped quotes are unfortunately not very well compiled - they are sprinkled around in 2014 indictment and detention memo, and many were played during his trial.

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Originally Posted by MeyerLansky
There was any case of father and son both soldiers in the same crew ? Or maybe different crew but same time ?

I dont know about who's crew is who's(philly was always relatively small)...but Joey Pung's pop was the( blonde babe) who both answered 2 Scarfo Sr.,the Changs & the Scafidi's & the Milano bros. pop was an old timer also eventually answered 2 Scarfo...lots of family w/family in Phila. in general..


I didn't want to leave blood on your carpet...

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